NotVooDoo
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OMG same... When it's not OBS fault, it's Windows fault.
I think the best thing to do is to use what works.
I don't think this will be fixed, the proper functioning of this plugin should not be questioned. :D
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I think the best thing to do is to use what works.
I don't think this will be fixed, the proper functioning of this plugin should not be questioned. :D
KattPhloxworthy
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Do bear in mind that the plugin in OBS Studio also relies on the API in Windows 11 and newer versions of Windows 10. You will likely experience the same problem there.
I reiterate, there may be a problem with the API itself. In which case, only Microsoft can fix it because they created the API in the first place.
--Katt. =^.^=
NotVooDoo
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Now I can answer.
I have been using the internal obs plugin since 08/15 and no problems to report to date. I have records of +8 hours without any problem of distorted/shattered/crackling after a few hours
KattPhloxworthy
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I have preliminarily tested the plugin under OBS Studio 30.0.0 Beta 3. It seems to work fine. Still likely susceptible to that issue that plagues this and the OBS-bundled plugin which is likely due to issues with Windows itself.
--Katt. =^.^=
--Katt. =^.^=
KattPhloxworthy
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A bit belated, but I don't know what you capture with the bundled OBS Studio plugin, but I tend to play games on-stream and I haven't had the best of luck with it, so I stick with WCA.
At least one of my VTuber friends isn't as lucky as you are. She's had to recapture a game that she's played for an extended period of time when the sound capture went wonky on her, and that's with the internal plugin.
All I can say is count yourself extremely lucky. It seems to be hit-or-miss out there, but again, I don't know what you capture with it.
--Katt. =^.^=
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Plugin doesn't capture audio in multichannel mode while OBS's native application audio capture beta does it. Plugin shows the soundbars in mixer but no capturing of sounds on any channel. Inb4 yes my PC has surround capability and the OBS's native app audio capture works, just wouldn't like to use it as plugin has the exe list.
I've also left message in github-issues of the plugins page.
I've also left message in github-issues of the plugins page.
I solved... somehow, I did many things at the same time, I don't know which of them was the solution:
- Deleted x32 OBS installed plug ins C:\Program Files\obs-studio\obs-plugins\32bit --- restart
- Reinstalled win source --- restart
-Installed VBCABLE_Driver_Pack43 - restart - (I don't use it I just installeld)
- Uninstalled Droid cam (It was a virtual camera with virtual sound output )
After all this the "add executable " button appeared, as I said I don't know which one was the solution, but you can try each one
KattPhloxworthy
Member
In my case, I have all the VB Audio Cables installed anyway because it never hurts to have them (and I do use them here). You'll never know when you may need or want them.
That said, it's good to know that you managed to get the plugin to work. However, even so, you may still find a use for that VB Audio Cable. ;)
--Katt. =^.^=
KattPhloxworthy
Member
A few questions:
- Which version of Windows are you using?
- Which version of OBS Studio are you using?
- Did you correctly install Win-Capture-Audio? (VERY important!)
- Was Winamp playing at the time you were trying to add it? This is important because THE PROGRAM MUST ACTIVELY BE OUTPUTTING AUDIO SO THE PLUGIN'S DETECTION ROUTINES CAN EVEN SEE IT. If it is not, it cannot be found.. This is because the plugin's audio output detection method relies on audio being actively output by an application, not by the fact there is a window connected to the output. This will allow processes that do not have a window that can be enumerated, such as background communications programs used by Valorant or other programs.
A couple of things:
- I tested it just now. It works. I freshly start Winamp with a playlist loaded. Play button not pressed yet--Result: I cannot see the executable in the drop-down. I press play so I can get some audio playing--result: I can see, then add, the executable to capture audio from. Then audio is then properly captured. It is also worth noting that you can hand-enter the executable name into the list for that source by clicking the + sign on the right hand side, then typing the executable's name in the blank, then clicking okay. Secondarily, can also capture via OBS Studio's own bundled application audio capture plugin. However, it enumerates all threads that may be available, so make sure you are using the thread that is outputting the sound, in this case, it should show you the currently-playing title.
- Since you can select the audio output device in the DirectSound output plugin, I would prefer using that method using something like VB Audio's Audio Cables, Voicemeeter or Matrix, or something similar rather than capturing it directly from the application. It makes far more sense (at least to me) to use this plugin for applications whose output can't easily be redirected, whether through something like Windows' own mixer or something like Ear Trumpet (which should be in your arsenal, so go get it now!).
- It is VITALLY IMPORTANT you use a supported version of Windows for this to work! This includes Windows 10 Release 2004 (aka 20H1) (absolute barest minimum requirement) or 20H2 (strongly recommended) or any release of Windows 11 (which introduced the API in the first place, which was then backported to Windows 10 Release 20H1).
- OBS Studio 30.1.0 Release
- Windows 11 Professional
- Win-Capture-Audio 2.2.3-Beta
- Winamp 5.9.2 Build 10042, released April 26, 2023
--Katt. =^.^=
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hery20
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Thanks for share good informetion.
hery20
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continue to monitor for any potential issues, especially considering the complexities of Windows compatibility. Your insights are valuable.
KattPhloxworthy
Member
If I had to guess, it might be due to the fact that Ableton uses a different audio subsystem than most other applications (e.g. games) out there use, ASIO as opposed to WDM respectively. However, you could try OBS Studio's bundled "Application Audio Capture [BETA]" source. But since it and Win-Capture-Audio work much the same way, you may not have any better luck.
The other possibility is that you may have such an old Windows installation (only applies to Windows 10 since all release of Windows 11 have the support needed) that the underlying OS support may not be there. If you're using Windows 10, it must be release 2004 (a.k.a. 20H1) or later, preferably 20H2, in which the support makes its first appearance in Windows 10. The last release of Windows 10 that did not have this support was Windows 10 release 1909.
--Katt. =^.^=
Thanks for the reply. I am on Windows 11 and my PC is less than a year old with high specs. I have tried ASIO OBS, restream and several others with no luck. My mic and other equipment are also brand new, so this whole thing has me really stumped. I have been chasing this thing now for over 3 weeks, it shouldn't be this hard.
Is there going to be an update that fixes the audio breaking from time to time? it seems like there hasn't been an update to this plugin in quite some time and that's a shame cause its a great plugin minus that and I'm constantly looking for other ways to capture my game audio while keeping all other audio separated but keep coming back to this. It just sucks to watch back a vod and here the audio breaking for sometimes a minute or two.
Also if its something windows related causing it why is it up to windows to fix it? can't something be done to make it work on the plugins side? I mean desktop audio within obs has no issues so what am I missing?
Lawrence_SoCal
Active Member
See https://obsproject.com/forum/thread...into-audio-mixer-interface.163498/post-657758 for a possible explanation
Short version - root-cause is an OS issue, and no a plugin won't help (as still using same problematic OS Audio sub-system). With some Win11 changes (half-assed/baked, as usual with every other Desktop OS release) pointing in a 'better' direction, that may, in a while (years?) result in a something that works for your use case. maybe. If M$ history over last 30 years of Desktop OS releases is any indication, things stabilize with next Desktop OS release, so maybe Win12? It could be a Feature release to Win11, but not something to hold one's breath over
- see threads on why we can at OS layer, natively adjust volume/mute select Audio sources, but the API underneath that which is basically a hot mess
what to do in the interim?
- is there an 'Easy' fix? not that I'm aware of. This plugin was one of the attempted work-arounds
- some folks advocate not using MS, and maybe Linux [for some folks this can work, for many this isn't viable]
- there are some software workarounds, but each with its own challenge (often fighting against the OS design)
- so that leaves the possibility of getting an hardware sound card/device that allows you to send Audio Output from a given application to a specific device (ex USB sound interface).
- Not all Applications (and games notoriously contain piss-poor code) allow such Audio routing (ie selecting specific audio output vs just to Operating System). And for this reason, running a software-only DAW has even more of a challenge
- And if this does work for you, you are basically going to have to learn an Audio application (which can vary from relatively basic to as complex as OBS Studio)
and then you still have an issue of getting that more sophisticated Audio handling back into OBS Studio [would be nice if OBS Studio natively supported ASIO or similar, but for now you need a sound device/card/adapter that supports selected audio output to Windows Audio sub-system [ie, more complex audio routing done on hardware Audio device and configured to output only the audio you want to an Output OBS Studio can then pick up]
usmanaliii
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wait it was Windows fault? I was blaming obs for so long for that , sorry my beloved obs.
KattPhloxworthy
Member
Apparently, it also affects OBS Studio's own bundled plugins (which would be include the game and window capture plugins which have the functionality built in if you chose to enable the functionality).
--Katt. =^.^=