rockbottom
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Worth a shot. Your more than likely going to be OK with it set @ 120 once it's running smoothly anyway, I only suggested 60 for testing purposes.
I will pay you if you fix my microstutters when recording, not in game.
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drpepperdoge
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Ok, I think I made all the recommended changes. Did a quick recording (no noticeable skips yet) and here's the log:
obsproject.com
edit: still saw a lag afterwards anyway.
Analyzer | OBS
OBS (Open Broadcaster Software) is free and open source software for video recording and live streaming. Stream to Twitch, YouTube and many other providers or record your own videos with high quality H264 / AAC encoding.
edit: still saw a lag afterwards anyway.
drpepperdoge
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Could my monitor be part of the problem?
rockbottom
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Monitor is OK. I probably wouldn't have bought it but GPU's were hard to get/expensive & I was in the middle of building 2 PC's at the time. Picked up a bundle deal from Asus. Like 3 weeks later, I landed a 3090 from Best Buy @ MSRP & was able to finish both of them.
rockbottom
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It's not helping as every little deviation from 60 can cause stuttering but I don't think that's the issue.
If it's still skipping, I would try testing without any Nvidia FX running.
Also, I see that you moved Desktop Audio into the Scene with the Q9 but it looks like the Q9 is also loading up as a Global Device.
17:18:04.224: [Loaded global audio device]: 'Q9'
17:18:04.224: - filter: 'Noise Suppression' (noise_suppress_filter_v2)
17:18:04.224: - filter: 'Noise Gate' (noise_gate_filter)
17:18:04.224: - filter: 'Compressor' (compressor_filter)
If it's still skipping, I would try testing without any Nvidia FX running.
Also, I see that you moved Desktop Audio into the Scene with the Q9 but it looks like the Q9 is also loading up as a Global Device.
17:18:04.224: [Loaded global audio device]: 'Q9'
17:18:04.224: - filter: 'Noise Suppression' (noise_suppress_filter_v2)
17:18:04.224: - filter: 'Noise Gate' (noise_gate_filter)
17:18:04.224: - filter: 'Compressor' (compressor_filter)
drpepperdoge
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oh good catch, removed Desktop Audio entirely and removed the Q9 microphone from the Global Devices.
I disabled the filters for audio altogether (and just now noticed the other three NVIDIA options. When i tried testing those out, I immediately saw skipped frames that were even reported by the stats window while not recording)
I normally just have the regular RNNoise selected but have it disabled along with everything else now.
Here's the logs. Audio sounds horrendous now haha
obsproject.com
I disabled the filters for audio altogether (and just now noticed the other three NVIDIA options. When i tried testing those out, I immediately saw skipped frames that were even reported by the stats window while not recording)
I normally just have the regular RNNoise selected but have it disabled along with everything else now.
Here's the logs. Audio sounds horrendous now haha
Analyzer | OBS
OBS (Open Broadcaster Software) is free and open source software for video recording and live streaming. Stream to Twitch, YouTube and many other providers or record your own videos with high quality H264 / AAC encoding.
rockbottom
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I never bothered to install/test the NvidiaFX but I don't think it plays well with OBS. There's Video FX enabled as well...
drpepperdoge
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Yeah I will try to find the toggle to disable these guys.
I ended up downloading and trying XSplit and I see the same stutters.
Wonder if it would be worth doing a completely clean reinstall of windows at this point and seeing if the default settings work better.
I ended up downloading and trying XSplit and I see the same stutters.
Wonder if it would be worth doing a completely clean reinstall of windows at this point and seeing if the default settings work better.
grundlestiltskin
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here we go! this issue is ridiculous and i empathize with the amount of frustration. here is what i found after pulling my hair out.
PS5 recording specifically, as i have not used it in a PC/PC configuration
if you want the smoothest, without hiccup, TURN OFF VRR, you can keep it on, but you might get weird "preview" moments that dont show up on the recording.
step 1, open 4k capture utility, make sure your preview is smooth there. ( if you cant get 4k capture preview smooth, continue anyway) KEEP 4K CAPTURE UTILITY OPEN
step 2, open OBS, SET THE CANVAS/RECORDING PROFILE TO 59.94fps, this is important
step 3, in the MK 2 properties, resoloution/fps type: Custom, Resolution 3840x2160, FPS Match output, Video format P010 (i record HDR) Colorspace: rec.2100 (pq) (HDR)
Color range: Limited
buffering: ENABLED <----super important!! the guidance from elgato website says to keep buffering off, but you need it on to not stutter. your preview will most likely have a delay, thats normal.
audio output mode- Capture audio only
click ok!
step 4, IN SOURCES, add Audio input capture, name it elgato monitor or elgato headphones or something like that, after confirming the name, select the elgato mk 2 from "device" pulldown menu. select ok. this new audio input capture will work in tandem with the main elgato video/audio capture. this new audio input will not have latency/delay that can happen over time.
in your audio mixer, go into advanced audio properties, in here have that new input you just created MONITOR ONLY with NO TRACKS selected
For the main elgato mk2 audio source have MONITOR OFF, and select the tracks you wish the audio to record to
Now back in Main settings/ Audio/ advanced select your monitoring device : i use headphones
step 5, now close down OBS and open it again.
Preview should be clean with no stutter and your audio monitoring should not drift over time
this worked for me, i hope it works for you
soooo 4k capture utility needs to remain open, OBS needs be configured for 59.94 with a buffer and an new audio input need to be created to MONITOR the audio because the buffer will create a delay on the main source
i think the issue is how the 4k60pro mkII internal buffer interacts with OBS and how the PS5 outputs 59.94fps
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PS5 recording specifically, as i have not used it in a PC/PC configuration
if you want the smoothest, without hiccup, TURN OFF VRR, you can keep it on, but you might get weird "preview" moments that dont show up on the recording.
step 1, open 4k capture utility, make sure your preview is smooth there. ( if you cant get 4k capture preview smooth, continue anyway) KEEP 4K CAPTURE UTILITY OPEN
step 2, open OBS, SET THE CANVAS/RECORDING PROFILE TO 59.94fps, this is important
step 3, in the MK 2 properties, resoloution/fps type: Custom, Resolution 3840x2160, FPS Match output, Video format P010 (i record HDR) Colorspace: rec.2100 (pq) (HDR)
Color range: Limited
buffering: ENABLED <----super important!! the guidance from elgato website says to keep buffering off, but you need it on to not stutter. your preview will most likely have a delay, thats normal.
audio output mode- Capture audio only
click ok!
step 4, IN SOURCES, add Audio input capture, name it elgato monitor or elgato headphones or something like that, after confirming the name, select the elgato mk 2 from "device" pulldown menu. select ok. this new audio input capture will work in tandem with the main elgato video/audio capture. this new audio input will not have latency/delay that can happen over time.
in your audio mixer, go into advanced audio properties, in here have that new input you just created MONITOR ONLY with NO TRACKS selected
For the main elgato mk2 audio source have MONITOR OFF, and select the tracks you wish the audio to record to
Now back in Main settings/ Audio/ advanced select your monitoring device : i use headphones
step 5, now close down OBS and open it again.
Preview should be clean with no stutter and your audio monitoring should not drift over time
this worked for me, i hope it works for you
soooo 4k capture utility needs to remain open, OBS needs be configured for 59.94 with a buffer and an new audio input need to be created to MONITOR the audio because the buffer will create a delay on the main source
i think the issue is how the 4k60pro mkII internal buffer interacts with OBS and how the PS5 outputs 59.94fps
PS5 recording specifically, as i have not used it in a PC/PC configuration
if you want the smoothest, without hiccup, TURN OFF VRR, you can keep it on, but you might get weird "preview" moments that dont show up on the recording.
step 1, open 4k capture utility, make sure your preview is smooth there. ( if you cant get 4k capture preview smooth, continue anyway) KEEP 4K CAPTURE UTILITY OPEN
step 2, open OBS, SET THE CANVAS/RECORDING PROFILE TO 59.94fps, this is important
step 3, in the MK 2 properties, resoloution/fps type: Custom, Resolution 3840x2160, FPS Match output, Video format P010 (i record HDR) Colorspace: rec.2100 (pq) (HDR)
Color range: Limited
buffering: ENABLED <----super important!! the guidance from elgato website says to keep buffering off, but you need it on to not stutter. your preview will most likely have a delay, thats normal.
audio output mode- Capture audio only
click ok!
step 4, IN SOURCES, add Audio input capture, name it elgato monitor or elgato headphones or something like that, after confirming the name, select the elgato mk 2 from "device" pulldown menu. select ok. this new audio input capture will work in tandem with the main elgato video/audio capture. this new audio input will not have latency/delay that can happen over time.
in your audio mixer, go into advanced audio properties, in here have that new input you just created MONITOR ONLY with NO TRACKS selected
For the main elgato mk2 audio source have MONITOR OFF, and select the tracks you wish the audio to record to
Now back in Main settings/ Audio/ advanced select your monitoring device : i use headphones
step 5, now close down OBS and open it again.
Preview should be clean with no stutter and your audio monitoring should not drift over time
this worked for me, i hope it works for you
soooo 4k capture utility needs to remain open, OBS needs be configured for 59.94 with a buffer and an new audio input need to be created to MONITOR the audio because the buffer will create a delay on the main source
i think the issue is how the 4k60pro mkII internal buffer interacts with OBS and how the PS5 outputs 59.94fps
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here we go! this issue is ridiculous and i empathize with the amount of frustration. here is what i found after pulling my hair out.PS5 recording specifically, as i have not used it in a PC/PC configuration
if you want the smoothest, without hiccup, TURN OFF VRR, you can keep it on, but you might get weird "preview" moments that dont show up on the recording.
step 1, open 4k capture utility, make sure your preview is smooth there. ( if you cant get 4k capture preview smooth, continue anyway) KEEP 4K CAPTURE UTILITY OPEN
step 2, open OBS, SET THE CANVAS/RECORDING PROFILE TO 59.94fps, this is important
step 3, in the MK 2 properties, resoloution/fps type: Custom, Resolution 3840x2160, FPS Match output, Video format P010 (i record HDR) Colorspace: rec.2100 (pq) (HDR)
Color range: Limited
buffering: ENABLED <----super important!! the guidance from elgato website says to keep buffering off, but you need it on to not stutter. your preview will most likely have a delay, thats normal.
audio output mode- Capture audio only
click ok!
step 4, IN SOURCES, add Audio input capture, name it elgato monitor or elgato headphones or something like that, after confirming the name, select the elgato mk 2 from "device" pulldown menu. select ok. this new audio input capture will work in tandem with the main elgato video/audio capture. this new audio input will not have latency/delay that can happen over time.
in your audio mixer, go into advanced audio properties, in here have that new input you just created MONITOR ONLY with NO TRACKS selected
For the main elgato mk2 audio source have MONITOR OFF, and select the tracks you wish the audio to record to
Now back in Main settings/ Audio/ advanced select your monitoring device : i use headphones
step 5, now close down OBS and open it again.
Preview should be clean with no stutter and your audio monitoring should not drift over time
this worked for me, i hope it works for you
soooo 4k capture utility needs to remain open, OBS needs be configured for 59.94 with a buffer and an new audio input need to be created to MONITOR the audio because the buffer will create a delay on the main source
i think the issue is how the 4k60pro mkII internal buffer interacts with OBS and how the PS5 outputs 59.94fps
Bamboobobbybob69xxx
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People in here who say it doesn’t have anything to do with OBS are 100% wrong. I took their word and stoped thinking about OBS being the problem so I reinstalled my windows tried different driver settings roll back my overclock. I spent three days on this issue and nothing seems to fix the problem. I tried resolution utility 60 frames 120 frames 140 480 hz. I tried all the solutions that were mentioned on this forum but the micro starters every couple seconds were still there. I tried different games like sniper elite five burnout remastered, which is an older game still had the same issue, the one had the most problems with stuttering was cyberpunk, which I could even see on the stream. in all cases The game is fine on my end, but the stream and the recording was a micro stutter fest. out of curiosity I tried shadow play and boom no more stuttering. THIS SHOWS THE 4090 MICRO STUTTER ISSUE IS 100 BECAUSE OF OBS. I’m gonna downgrade my obs to lower version until I find a version that doesn’t have this problem and will mention the obs version here. I forgot to mention that I one point. I thought it was my VLC media player that was causing it so I tried different options. The stutter was still there more over. I thought it was the HDR. I turned off the HDR and used a monitor that is SDR only and same issue. I’ve also tried to gsync on and off which didn’t resolve it.
Bamboobobbybob69xxx
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I went 10 versions down and the issue was still there. What fixed is that? I reinstalled windows again I applied all of my previous settings for graphics card overclocking power stuff and also in the 3-D Nvidia settings I put all the same settings from before. The only thing that I change which fixed the issue was not importing my profile and scenes from the obs exported profile and scene files and I recreate the exact profile setting and the science from scratch again and I used all the previous streaming and recording and video and audio output settings from my previous OBS that had the stutter and now the micro stutter issue is gone. I think something goes wrong through the importing or exporting process of the profiles and scenes or it could be that there was something seriously wrong with the scenes or profiles setting I had created , but again the thing is my scenes and profile are exactly the same as the previous setting on the previous windows that had the stutter.
rockbottom
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Nice, good job troubleshooting & figuring out that the Profile was causing your pain. Something to try first if things go sideways down the road at any point.
LeoGeo
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Wow! You solved the random microstutter phase issue in my recordings. Your technique works fantastically, even with a cloned desktop single PC setup using the Elgato MK2. Using the Elgato buffer completely eliminates the stutter phases in my recordings (not in the preview). I've been recording daily since early April for 90-120 minutes each session, following your method.
Up until now, I've been disabling OBS's V-Sync through the Nvidia Control Panel out of fear that the stuttering might return. I also use precise fractional FPS (explained here: https://youtu.be/eubBwFxWwzc) because the recordings "feel" smoother, but it could just be my imagination.
What V-Sync setting do you recommend in the Nvidia Control Panel for OBS?
I'd like to know how these high end gaming setups translate to the microstutters on my music live streams. I had quite a bit of microstuttering or other types of staticy incidents today during the livestream and don't know how or why. I think it is likely that it is from the computer here at the end. It is happening a lot. (3 computer setup). What are people doing to absorb this problem and diffuse it.
bcoyle
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Hi. This helped me, but don't know if this will help you. I use a free utility called remmap (google it). It has the ability to clear standby memory. I put a call to this app in my task scheduler and have it clear out all my standby memory every 30 minutes. This keeps the computer from paging, which is storing some of the current memory to a file to make room for new stuff. In the obs version i use, using the vlc source to play videos, fills up this memory. Maybe, you are hitting this paging limit. ????? don't know. Anyway, just an FYI
Looking at my log, looks like it's time to remove some sources. I am pretty sure there's a VLC source in there someplace. I am going to clean out a lot of sources and some scenes.
bcoyle
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Another suggestion: in the control panel under power usage. Set the usage to high power. The other settings ramp up the cpu clock as needed, but might be a little slow and therefore reactive, maybe causing the shuddering.
That's apparently the problem. I did what the log output said, and changed from the low power or power efficiency option to the performance option for the 960 video card of the computer. Now it works again!
bcoyle
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Im glad that worked for you. If you are running a laptop, you might want to check the temperature. When I did this on my laptop the case got sort of hot (It was old). I did 2 things, replaced the fans and put new thermo grease on the processer. I also got a fan base cooling plate. Cool is making the computer last forever. LOL
well mine was pretty hot, so I pointed a fan at it. Seems to do allright, but I am not near it most of the time when I am streaming because the video is usually going from the other side of a house on the computer there, and then just streaming up from this one with the problems. It scales it from 1920 to 1280 but that's its main task aside from uploading it. I pointed a small fan at it, and so far so good. One of the fans died some time ago, but never has been replaced. I ought to do it, pretty important computer. I may just stop streaming instead. For several years I only made videos on my own 2nd computer of the 3 computer array I am using now. I've been getting into streaming but just this summer only since being cancelled off all the platforms for knowing the truth in 2020 and 2021. Lol.