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KyleAndrew
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I have a question about the plugin where I'm looking to resolve some long standing frustration. Most of the time Source Record works perfectly. I have producers in various cities, using both PC and Mac (mostly Mac) and we use this plugin for archiving. However every once in a while the source recorded videos will be messed up, with data errors and screwed up video. We generally run source record with the exact save output settings as the main OBS recording, and the main OBS recording itself is always fine and never experiences these issues. Our issue is that having clean source records is essential to our process, but we'd like to stay on OBS. Everything we do is VDO Ninja into OBS or Vmix (on some producers PC's).
My question is, perhaps for @Exeldro is what are the potential causes of issues like this? I had one producer have a shows source records go haywire on the weekend during a livestream, however when I get him to retest this morning there is nothing wrong and the recordings are perfect. I need to be able to diagnose the various reasons why this can happen. Is there some sort of a plugin conflict perhaps? I have always known OBS to be rather finicky, especially if you make changes to your show that are extensive before you go live, as restarting OBS itself before going live or recording seems to be a solid standard practice. The files are sometimes corrupted and unable to open in premiere. Other times there are just huge 'quips' if you will in the video itself, or audio blips and interference all over the place. To be clear, most of the producers are using high end modern hardware (like M1 Max laptops or M2 Pro's, or high end PC's with graphics cards).
But what can cause these output issues? Is there like a standard of settings that we should be looking at to avoid this? Is it a conflict with something else in the program? (we don't run many other plugins at all)
I'm a little perplexed and don't want to start moving the team off of OBS to god knows what, but the rate of failure on this is just a bit too high at this point, and I'd much rather solve this issue than move on to something else.
Any insight would be massively appreciated, from anyone else that has experienced similar.
Thank you,
My question is, perhaps for @Exeldro is what are the potential causes of issues like this? I had one producer have a shows source records go haywire on the weekend during a livestream, however when I get him to retest this morning there is nothing wrong and the recordings are perfect. I need to be able to diagnose the various reasons why this can happen. Is there some sort of a plugin conflict perhaps? I have always known OBS to be rather finicky, especially if you make changes to your show that are extensive before you go live, as restarting OBS itself before going live or recording seems to be a solid standard practice. The files are sometimes corrupted and unable to open in premiere. Other times there are just huge 'quips' if you will in the video itself, or audio blips and interference all over the place. To be clear, most of the producers are using high end modern hardware (like M1 Max laptops or M2 Pro's, or high end PC's with graphics cards).
But what can cause these output issues? Is there like a standard of settings that we should be looking at to avoid this? Is it a conflict with something else in the program? (we don't run many other plugins at all)
I'm a little perplexed and don't want to start moving the team off of OBS to god knows what, but the rate of failure on this is just a bit too high at this point, and I'd much rather solve this issue than move on to something else.
Any insight would be massively appreciated, from anyone else that has experienced similar.
Thank you,
Tallicia
Member
Would it be possible to get a framerate setting added for the recording? I am working on increasing my streaming framerate, but in doing so it also increases the frame rate of my source-record files, which is wasting space and CPU resources.
I have some sources that at 90 or 120fps it's necessary, but other sources at 30, 45, or 60 fps it's perfectly acceptable and can dramatically reduce energy and resource waste.
I have some sources that at 90 or 120fps it's necessary, but other sources at 30, 45, or 60 fps it's perfectly acceptable and can dramatically reduce energy and resource waste.
Exeldro
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Tormy
Member
Your plugin is very valuable. I'm wondering why you don't collaborate with OBS to integrate it into the official release? This is a feature that is completely missing in OBS, and it would be great if everyone (including new users) could have it from the start.
Darth Predator
New Member
Hybrid mp4 is a very welcome addition.
But that makes me wonder if there is a way to put chapter markers in the plugin's recording. As far as I can tell right now it doesn't do that automatically and there are no hotkeys for it. Maybe something I can achieve via websocket?
Exeldro
Active Member
@Darth Predator chapter marker support is something that can be added
Tormy
Member
For what it does, it's ok so. Indeed I installed it already to 2 clients a dn with the shortcuts they can turn it on or off.
There is not any further need to get it ready for any one. Actually who's interested on, have this plugin, is already on the expert side. To have it native will be the top. No questions about "who knows if there is that" etc. There is: just they can use it.
And other ones into the Team can help you to improve it in case of it's necessary.
FOr the time being, pay attention to the strange issues we detected. I will check if they still present in this version, because often it records the same main program, instead of separate sources. Not clear why it does.
Darth Predator
New Member
Please make that happen.
I'll be a very happy man, who wouldn't need to painfully sync 2-3 different source recordings with the main one frame by frame every time.
Tormy
Member
You can easily sync them with the clap recorded into the audio and video ... or however with a specific signal ... as we do on regularly absis in film/video making ... :-)
Tallicia
Member
When you have 4+ cameras showing multiple things and they don't share audio, a clap does not work.
Having each camera timestamp a frame to sync them across recordings would save me a massive amount of effort syncing all the videos, only 1 audio track is critical to be in sync, the chit chat can be off my many frames. the cameras with millisecond race time alignment can not.
@Exeldro Thank you so much for this! Absolutely love to see the frame rate divisor! Though 2 things:
1. It still records at the main frame rate, it's not reduced. :( I am using mkv, is that possibly in any way an issue?
2. Would it be possible to add a 3/4 (75%), and 2/3rds (66%) frame drop ?
80fps main at drop 1 of every 4 frames - 3/4 yields 60fps
90fps main at drop 1 of every 3 frames - 2/3 yields 60fps
aabor
New Member
I have recently installed the Source Record plugin to OBS on my MacBook Pro (arm64). Full system description is below.
When I try to record sources from application windows separately,
I got the following results for my Google Chrome browser window (this is a screenshot from video, recorded separately):
My hardware web camera was recorded separately correctly, only application pages from video memory are distorted.
Is there a way to overcome this problem shortly? Does anyone encounter similar problems on other hardware, or it is MacOS specific?
My computer specs:
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: Mac14,9
Model Number: MPHE3LL/A
Chip: Apple M2 Pro
Total Number of Cores: 10 (6 performance and 4 efficiency)
Memory: 16 GB
System Firmware Version: 11881.1.1
OS Loader Version: 11881.1.1
Activation Lock Status: Disabled
System Version: macOS 15.0.1 (24A348)
Kernel Version: Darwin 24.0.0
Boot Volume: Macintosh HD
Boot Mode: Normal
Secure Virtual Memory: Enabled
System Integrity Protection: Enabled
When I try to record sources from application windows separately,
I got the following results for my Google Chrome browser window (this is a screenshot from video, recorded separately):
My hardware web camera was recorded separately correctly, only application pages from video memory are distorted.
Is there a way to overcome this problem shortly? Does anyone encounter similar problems on other hardware, or it is MacOS specific?
My computer specs:
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: Mac14,9
Model Number: MPHE3LL/A
Chip: Apple M2 Pro
Total Number of Cores: 10 (6 performance and 4 efficiency)
Memory: 16 GB
System Firmware Version: 11881.1.1
OS Loader Version: 11881.1.1
Activation Lock Status: Disabled
System Version: macOS 15.0.1 (24A348)
Kernel Version: Darwin 24.0.0
Boot Volume: Macintosh HD
Boot Mode: Normal
Secure Virtual Memory: Enabled
System Integrity Protection: Enabled
Tormy
Member
Well then more than chapters you will need Time Code for sync (SMPTE). Chapters will be just in a TXT side-car file or similar stuff, and I'm wondering which NLE accepts this kind of thing.
Tallicia
Member
I highly recommend you check your comments and suppositions before potentially spreading misinformation. Hybrid mp4 writes into the file the marker: https://obsproject.com/kb/hybrid-mp4 and https://obsproject.com/blog/obs-studio-hybrid-mp4
OBS support chapters in hybrid mp4.
Tallicia
Member
I am able to get my Browser source recordings. I am using mp4 container.
Have you tried using the Browser source instead of the application capture? It may or may not meet your use case, but if it fits the use case, it does work in my case.
Of course, Browser is not intended for interactive use, so if you require interaction while recording, you can use the "Interact" and it brings up a window, but it's not a browser with all the profile and other application window dressing.
Tallicia
Member
@Exeldro, ok I am saving space with this great frame rate addition, Thanks so much once more!
Though when I select hybrid_mp4, I lose audio, which is multichannel surround sound, currently 6 channel 3F 2R + LFE 48khz 32bps . I have had to switch to regular mp4, until the sound is recording. FWIW, when I select this hybrid_mp4 in the main OBS Settings -> Output -> Recording, it does the same thing, it's like the audio is glitched. So it may be a core OBS issue that needs resolving.
I am super excited to have the chapter markers in hybrid_mp4 along with sound and a couple more frame rate divisor options, that will resolve some of the biggest hurdles I have been toiling with so much this year.
Tormy
Member
in DaVinci you can sync the audio based on Waveform OR on TimeCode. There is nothing (so far I see) that is related sync with Chapters embedded in MP4).
DaVinci can EXPORT Chapters in SIDECAR file, that are previously created with the MARKERS,.
It can uploaded the chapters directly on YT in case (it's a feature that I have requested and the immediate release after that request, BMD have implemented it), or just exported to file.
DaVinci CAN import markers from an EDL File and EXPORT markers INTO an EDL file as well. Kind of SideCAr as principle.
But the way you are asking, there is not any evidence in DRS. Please post a video that explains exactly how DaVinci can sync 2 MP4 videos with CHAPTERS embedded as you described, instead of the SMPTE code I told about.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" and in the doc you sent there is not that evidence at all.
I indeed asked " I'm wondering which NLE accepts this kind of thing." ... NLE = Non-Linear Editor ... as DaVinci ..
So please show me that stuff because I missing it.