Is there any way I can actually use a 2nd webcam source, using the same webcam just with different filters?

For example 1st webcam source for other scenes like game/display capture with crop/pad filter, and 2nd webcam source for cam scene without crop/pad filter

I can't really use the same device on 2 different sources because it just will not show up on the other, but for some reason my Logitech Capture app (for my c920s) will pop up on both so I have to use that. I don't wanna have to start up the app every time I use obs, is there a way? no, I can't really just copy/paste the same source and disable filters, as it will disable on all duplicated sources.

Here's the log if you need it just in case.
 

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