X.265
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HLS already supports H265 already supposedly.
I'm not going to lie but H.265 is cray cray. Found a decoder and everything can't find a web player decoder though. Playing H.265 videos before everyone else huehuehue. Only works with Windows Media Player for the Windows decoder.
Tried it, can actually play and watch 4K content where H264 from Apple just freezes a bunch.
I'm not going to lie but H.265 is cray cray. Found a decoder and everything can't find a web player decoder though. Playing H.265 videos before everyone else huehuehue. Only works with Windows Media Player for the Windows decoder.
Tried it, can actually play and watch 4K content where H264 from Apple just freezes a bunch.
ivannew2012
Member
What a benefits of HLS ? User can stream two or more streams in diffirent quality ?
What really be great if they add some technology which can divide one stream(one tcp connection) to 4 or more tcp connection(same stream at same quality, maybe with more delay, but anybody with some bad internet, over 90% of world, can watch high bitrate streams without lags). More thread give more speed, look at bittorrent technology.
What really be great if they add some technology which can divide one stream(one tcp connection) to 4 or more tcp connection(same stream at same quality, maybe with more delay, but anybody with some bad internet, over 90% of world, can watch high bitrate streams without lags). More thread give more speed, look at bittorrent technology.
ivannew2012
Member
User must encode same video twice, don't think it be common practice to stream like this. Twitch don't be doing it for no money.
ivannew2012
Member
Actually if they http servers support how it says, parrallel download for one http file, like most downloaders do. Only need add it in player, and lags on high bitrate stream be less. HLS add more delay compare to rtmp. Maybe they think add it on past broadcast videos ? Or they don't care about delay. I don't care about delay, fine for me if it be less laggy.
What about VP9?
YouTube will be using VP9 in the near future and will not use H.264 or H.265 for its videos.
VP9 is an open and royalty free video compression so it sounds more like a thing OBS would be supporting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VP9
But then again it all comes down to what twitch and other streaming sites will use, VP9 or H.265.
YouTube will be using VP9 in the near future and will not use H.264 or H.265 for its videos.
VP9 is an open and royalty free video compression so it sounds more like a thing OBS would be supporting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VP9
But then again it all comes down to what twitch and other streaming sites will use, VP9 or H.265.
Krazy
Town drunk
I have a feeling VP9 might be the one that takes precedence in the streaming world.
All this discussion is a bit premature, though. It's going to be at least a year (imo) before either of these codecs are ready for any sort of general use, and likely longer than that for them to be adopted for livestreaming purposes.
All this discussion is a bit premature, though. It's going to be at least a year (imo) before either of these codecs are ready for any sort of general use, and likely longer than that for them to be adopted for livestreaming purposes.
Jollyriffic
Member
just read over every post.
seems that HLS already supports the x.265 codec?
in theory if obs could drop in the codec as an option would it currently work?
if not what would be needed for support?
seems that HLS already supports the x.265 codec?
in theory if obs could drop in the codec as an option would it currently work?
if not what would be needed for support?
Jollyriffic
Member
if someone were to make a plugin for chrome and firefox could it then start being used?
i've only got the option with my isp to have a max upload of 3mb. right now i have 2mb due to price.
so for a lot of us this would be a huge help. i'd be willing to only stream in h265 with moobot spamming to download the plugin. i also setup a lot of streamers so could even have them all push it.
when it comes to technology the growing usage is how places end up pushing the products. so in theory we could just force them to adapt and progress quickly with it.
i've only got the option with my isp to have a max upload of 3mb. right now i have 2mb due to price.
so for a lot of us this would be a huge help. i'd be willing to only stream in h265 with moobot spamming to download the plugin. i also setup a lot of streamers so could even have them all push it.
when it comes to technology the growing usage is how places end up pushing the products. so in theory we could just force them to adapt and progress quickly with it.
After testing x265 myself, it's pretty clear to see that it has seen some pretty phenomenal progress, to the point where the (stable branch, latest stable online build is 0.6+3 here for those interested) can reliably produce consistently, markedly better quality than x264 at fast presets. It'll be pretty awesome once the rewrite comes about with support for this sort of thing. I think a lot of streamers in low-bandwidth areas will be able to have watchable streams now, as well as enable those who might not have been able to stream before.
Likewise, will you guys support 10-bit encoding at some stage? I guess that would be supported by default once alternative encoders are possible.
Likewise, will you guys support 10-bit encoding at some stage? I guess that would be supported by default once alternative encoders are possible.
paibox
heros in an halfshel
x265 would only be supported for local recording, and not for streaming, unless Adobe added support for it to Flash, which they aren't very likely to do.
As for 10-bit color encoding, Adobe do say that it is supported by the Flash h.264 decoder, but they said the same thing about YUV 4:2:2 video, and that certainly wasn't the case. (It does not support YUV 4:4:4 either.)
As for 10-bit color encoding, Adobe do say that it is supported by the Flash h.264 decoder, but they said the same thing about YUV 4:2:2 video, and that certainly wasn't the case. (It does not support YUV 4:4:4 either.)
10-bit may be possible in the future, I don't particularly mind that.
x265 however as paibox said cannot be used for streaming purposes unless adobe implements a decoder into flash for it, or by some miracle HTML5 implements it and everybody decides to start using HTML5 instead of flash.
x265 however as paibox said cannot be used for streaming purposes unless adobe implements a decoder into flash for it, or by some miracle HTML5 implements it and everybody decides to start using HTML5 instead of flash.