Napsterbater
New Member
Looks very nice. Did you use custom settings in the VCE settings area?
What other settings? CBR? OpenCL for NV12? MFT? CFR?
Thanks
OBS branch with AMD VCE support.
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Looks very nice. Did you use custom settings in the VCE settings area?
What other settings? CBR? OpenCL for NV12? MFT? CFR?
Thanks
akeera
New Member
Heres a link for settings i was using. For local recordings i pretty much leave it the same, just bump bitrate to 35k
http://imgur.com/oiAHHNe
Napsterbater
New Member
http://www.twitch.tv/napsterbater/b/546388986
This is my video with those settings.
The OBS bandwidth meter seemed to be all over the place, even up to 10Mbsp at one point but it didn't seem to affect the stream.
These settings seems to be working just fine, but each time I close OBS I get "OBS has stopped working" error. Any idea?
Also what's the point of changing the x264 CPU preset and scene buffering time?
jackun
Developer
Ok, i've been messing with padding and MFT low latency mode.
Use MFT, select CBR and CBR padding. In VCE settings, enable 'Enable custom settings' and check 'Low latency mode'.
Try if stream still stays uncorrupted: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/235773/obsvce-MFT_low_latency_n_padding_test.7z
Edit: Blah, nvm, random corruption abound.
@n00pe, if you use MFT, it seems to crash when statically linked with msvcrt (std::locale::~locale usually). May indicate memory corruption, but it crashes even when just opening encoding settings and exiting OBS :S This test build's MFT is dynamically linked for now.
Use MFT, select CBR and CBR padding. In VCE settings, enable 'Enable custom settings' and check 'Low latency mode'.
Try if stream still stays uncorrupted: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/235773/obsvce-MFT_low_latency_n_padding_test.7z
Edit: Blah, nvm, random corruption abound.
@n00pe, if you use MFT, it seems to crash when statically linked with msvcrt (std::locale::~locale usually). May indicate memory corruption, but it crashes even when just opening encoding settings and exiting OBS :S This test build's MFT is dynamically linked for now.
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Why is it that when I try to record anything, my games freeze upon pressing the start recording button? When I click in the game it goes back to normal and when I stop recording and try to look at my recordings, there are absurdly small files of few kb and that's all?
I only use the VCE, because my CPU is not the best and I don't want to strain it that much. Also started using the program just yesterday and it wasn't that hard to setup, but the scenes and stuff are not working properly. Some games go totally black and nothing I change seems to affect it. It doesn't do it all the time, I was just trying out some less intensive games like Audiosurf, Minecraft and Binding of Isaac, before I would really use it in other games for example like Battlefield 3, Planetside 2 or Euro Truck Simulator 2, which I haven't tried it with them at all.
If anyone can help, please do because streaming is great and the quality also, but the recordings are broken for me and whichever settings I change, it doesn't seem to do anything.
EDIT: It was custom settings that were screwing it up. And I left them at default too! What a shame...
I only use the VCE, because my CPU is not the best and I don't want to strain it that much. Also started using the program just yesterday and it wasn't that hard to setup, but the scenes and stuff are not working properly. Some games go totally black and nothing I change seems to affect it. It doesn't do it all the time, I was just trying out some less intensive games like Audiosurf, Minecraft and Binding of Isaac, before I would really use it in other games for example like Battlefield 3, Planetside 2 or Euro Truck Simulator 2, which I haven't tried it with them at all.
If anyone can help, please do because streaming is great and the quality also, but the recordings are broken for me and whichever settings I change, it doesn't seem to do anything.
EDIT: It was custom settings that were screwing it up. And I left them at default too! What a shame...
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jackun
Developer
@Fawkes i'm trying to but now I have weird memory leak with MFT, but maybe just my comp's fault. Memory usage creeps to about 1gb after about half hour recording, sigh.
I've added code to add filler NALs if padding is enable to keep minimum bitrate up, but that needs testing that it doesn't confuse h264 decoders too much as VCE encoder has no idea it is being added (maybe MF has a HRD option somewhere though :P) MPC with ffdshow/LAV, VLC etc seem to work fine.
I've added code to add filler NALs if padding is enable to keep minimum bitrate up, but that needs testing that it doesn't confuse h264 decoders too much as VCE encoder has no idea it is being added (maybe MF has a HRD option somewhere though :P) MPC with ffdshow/LAV, VLC etc seem to work fine.
awesome,
just wondering tough, you could take a look at the code that Raptr's game DVR uses? and implement some of that?
or just look how they solve problems.
i-am not sure if it's allowed to use some of their code but you can always look at it to help you out ;)
and maybe it won't be usefull at all but those are my two cents
also i'll check my ram usage next time i start streaming and report back to you
Snowknight26
New Member
Any chance of adding another downscaling factor, such as 4/3 (~1.33)?
Currently those of us with 2560x1440 can't record at native resolutions (VCE can't do more than 1920x1080 @ 60Hz), yet the current downscaling factors leave us with weird resolutions. 1.25 = 2048x1152, 1.50 = 1706x960, etc.
Ideally, downscaling shouldn't have a factor but a text field that lets you choose which resolution you want to downscale to (keeping the aspect ratio correct while bounding the video to the requested resolution).
Currently those of us with 2560x1440 can't record at native resolutions (VCE can't do more than 1920x1080 @ 60Hz), yet the current downscaling factors leave us with weird resolutions. 1.25 = 2048x1152, 1.50 = 1706x960, etc.
Ideally, downscaling shouldn't have a factor but a text field that lets you choose which resolution you want to downscale to (keeping the aspect ratio correct while bounding the video to the requested resolution).
Snowknight26
New Member
Awesome, that was fast.
It works fine at 1080p30 but at 1080p60 the UI just freezes and has to be force closed. The resulting MP4 can't be played because the headers are missing from the end of the MP4, sadly.
It works fine at 1080p30 but at 1080p60 the UI just freezes and has to be force closed. The resulting MP4 can't be played because the headers are missing from the end of the MP4, sadly.
jackun
Developer
For some reason. When i added some sleep() calls, then the Stop recording etc buttons even kinda worked.
MFT defaults to 50% QualityVsSpeed, usually it is low enough, but try lowering it in VCE settings tab. Still does hang?
Snowknight26
New Member
Yeah, any higher than 50% causes the UI to freeze after hitting Start Recording.
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quickshot101
New Member
What are you working on for OBS vce atm? Or are you holding off till obsstudio? This fork is so close to being 100% usable. The only real issue I see atm are some cbr issues and stability issues. Quality wise it looks great, and when its not crashing/freezing the performance results are fantastic.
jackun
Developer
CBR issue is kinda weird. MSDN says that H264 MFT buffer size is HRD (hypothetical reference decoder) buffer size in bytes, but Media SDK samples etc set is as MPEG2 VBV buffer sizes in bits. So in that respect to VBV, VCE probably works as it should (temporary bitrate peaks).
New Media SDK should be released soon hopefully.
Last few crashes i've got were some weird recursions in OBS's logging exhausting stack, so removed/replaced most logging code.
And one weird thing, OVE capability query reports max picture size 14400 macroblocks with my R9-290, so 16x16 pixel blocks? That makes 2560x1440 :S
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TheReaperV11
Member
Well, I tested this CBR padding test version and it worked fine when recording. I don't have time to stream. Sometimes it spiked around 10k but after a while it went down to 3k which is what I set :)
quickshot101
New Member
Streamed for about 2 hours non stop with the latest version. MUCH MUCH more stable, love it.
Quality wise for RTS/MOBA/MMO/2.5d @ 3500 bitrate it looks pretty good (considering how little performance is lost). But in FPS games (arma 2,3/fast motion with grass) it blurs/pixels/blocks out most of the environment. Are there any ways to turn up fast motion quality?
This is my current setup
http://i.imgur.com/G84PaPO.png http://i.imgur.com/Hp0Tjgd.png NO custom settings for vce atm
Quality wise for RTS/MOBA/MMO/2.5d @ 3500 bitrate it looks pretty good (considering how little performance is lost). But in FPS games (arma 2,3/fast motion with grass) it blurs/pixels/blocks out most of the environment. Are there any ways to turn up fast motion quality?
This is my current setup
http://i.imgur.com/G84PaPO.png http://i.imgur.com/Hp0Tjgd.png NO custom settings for vce atm
Wishdream
New Member
Is it possible to have the VCE use the APU instead of the GPU? It kind of makes my APU's VCE useless since my card is VCE unsupported.
My card is a R7 240 and my APU is a A10-58k
I tried it before with my APU only and it works fine but now with the GPU on, it can't.
My card is a R7 240 and my APU is a A10-58k
I tried it before with my APU only and it works fine but now with the GPU on, it can't.
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