Question / Help Lets try making it more crisp ?

Rough · Oct 24, 2013

Hey,
I went back to 480p streaming..
These are 2 vods

2000bitrate(no custom buffer), veryfast x264 preset, 60fps
http://www.twitch.tv/irs0osooom/b/473083795

Code:

20:06:42: Server Ping plugin strings not found, dynamically loading 24 strings
20:07:29: Settings::Video: Enabling Aero
20:10:11: Open Broadcaster Software v0.583b - 64bit (　^ω^)
20:10:11: -------------------------------
20:10:11: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
20:10:11: CPU Speed: 3500MHz
20:10:11: Physical Memory:  16329MB Total, 12888MB Free
20:10:11: stepping id: 9, model 58, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
20:10:11: monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
20:10:11: Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
20:10:11: Aero is Enabled
20:10:11: -------------------------------
20:10:11: OBS Modules:
20:10:11: Base Address     Module
20:10:11: 000000003FF50000 OBS.exe
20:10:11: 00000000EE7B0000 OBSApi.dll
20:10:11: 00000000F0090000 DShowPlugin.dll
20:10:11: 00000000F3720000 GraphicsCapture.dll
20:10:11: 00000000F37E0000 NoiseGate.dll
20:10:11: 00000000F0410000 PSVPlugin.dll
20:10:11: 00000000F0060000 ServerPingPlugin.dll
20:10:11: ------------------------------------------
20:10:11: Adapter 1
20:10:11:   Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN
20:10:11:   Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 2055929856
20:10:11:   Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3997763584
20:10:11:   Video Adapter Output 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
20:10:11: =====Stream Start: 2013-10-24, 20:10:11===============================================
20:10:11:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
20:10:11:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
20:10:11:   Output resolution: 852x480
20:10:11: ------------------------------------------
20:10:11: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN...
20:10:11: ------------------------------------------
20:10:11: Audio Format: 44100hz
20:10:11: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{0f92acbe-2545-4af3-ae4f-e64ccb0d8276}
20:10:11: ------------------------------------------
20:10:11: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
20:10:11: Using 7.1 surround speaker setup
20:10:11: ------------------------------------------
20:10:11: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
20:10:11: ------------------------------------------
20:10:11: Audio Encoding: AAC
20:10:11:     bitrate: 128
20:10:12: Using bitmap image
20:10:12: Using Window Capture
20:10:12: Scene buffering time set to 400
20:10:12: Using custom x264 settings: "keyint=120"
20:10:12: ------------------------------------------
20:10:12: Video Encoding: x264
20:10:12:     fps: 60
20:10:12:     width: 852, height: 480
20:10:12:     preset: veryfast
20:10:12:     profile: high
20:10:12:     keyint: 120
20:10:12:     CBR: no
20:10:12:     CFR: yes
20:10:12:     max bitrate: 2000
20:10:12:     buffer size: 2000
20:10:12:     quality: 10
20:10:12: ------------------------------------------
20:10:12: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 3072000, samples per sec is 96000
20:10:12: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 768000, samples per sec is 96000
20:10:18: Using bitmap image
20:10:21: Using text output
20:10:22: Using bitmap image
20:10:23: Using text output
20:10:26: Using graphics capture
20:10:26: SharedTexCapture hooked
20:15:07: Total frames encoded: 17681, total frames duplicated: 2 (0.01%)
20:15:07: Total frames rendered: 17689, number of late frames: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
20:15:07: 
20:15:07: Profiler time results:
20:15:07: 
20:15:07: ==============================================================
20:15:07: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.259 ms] [children: 24.3%] [unaccounted: 75.7%]
20:15:07: | scene->Preprocess - [5.41%] [avg time: 0.014 ms]
20:15:07: | GPU download and conversion - [18.9%] [avg time: 0.049 ms] [children: 16.2%] [unaccounted: 2.7%]
20:15:07: | | flush - [13.1%] [avg time: 0.034 ms]
20:15:07: | | CopyResource - [2.7%] [avg time: 0.007 ms]
20:15:07: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.386%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
20:15:07: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.106 ms] [children: 99.1%] [unaccounted: 0.943%]
20:15:07: | Convert444toNV12 - [99.1%] [avg time: 0.105 ms]
20:15:07: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.283 ms]
20:15:07: ==============================================================
20:15:07: 
20:15:07: 
20:15:07: Profiler CPU results:
20:15:07: 
20:15:07: ==============================================================
20:15:07: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.007 ms, total 140.401 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:15:07: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:15:07: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0.001 ms, total 31.2 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:15:07: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:15:07: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0.001 ms, total 31.2 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:15:07: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:15:07: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0.001 ms, total 62.4 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
20:15:07: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0.001 ms, total 62.4 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
20:15:07: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:15:07: ==============================================================
20:15:07: 
20:15:07: =====Stream End: 2013-10-24, 20:15:07=================================================
20:15:20: =====Stream Start: 2013-10-24, 20:15:20===============================================
20:15:20:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
20:15:20:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
20:15:20:   Output resolution: 852x480
20:15:20: ------------------------------------------
20:15:20: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN...
20:15:20: ------------------------------------------
20:15:20: Audio Format: 44100hz
20:15:20: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{0f92acbe-2545-4af3-ae4f-e64ccb0d8276}
20:15:20: ------------------------------------------
20:15:20: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
20:15:20: Using 7.1 surround speaker setup
20:15:20: ------------------------------------------
20:15:20: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
20:15:20: ------------------------------------------
20:15:20: Audio Encoding: AAC
20:15:20:     bitrate: 128
20:15:20: Using text output
20:15:20: Using bitmap image
20:15:20: Using graphics capture
20:15:20: Scene buffering time set to 400
20:15:20: Using custom x264 settings: "keyint=120"
20:15:20: ------------------------------------------
20:15:20: Video Encoding: x264
20:15:20:     fps: 60
20:15:20:     width: 852, height: 480
20:15:20:     preset: veryfast
20:15:20:     profile: high
20:15:20:     keyint: 120
20:15:20:     CBR: no
20:15:20:     CFR: yes
20:15:20:     max bitrate: 2000
20:15:20:     buffer size: 2000
20:15:20:     quality: 10
20:15:20: ------------------------------------------
20:15:20: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 3072000, samples per sec is 96000
20:15:20: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 768000, samples per sec is 96000
20:15:20: SharedTexCapture hooked
20:15:29: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
20:15:29:   Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
20:15:29:   Interface: Intel(R) 82579V Gigabit Network Connection (ethernet, 100 mbps)
20:15:29: Completed handshake with rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app in 483 ms.
20:15:30: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
20:15:30: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
20:29:15: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Stalled for 3882 ms to write 269958 bytes (buffer: 0 / 272384), unstable connection?
20:30:41: Capture window 0x003F0378 invalid or changing, terminating capture
20:30:44: Total frames encoded: 55412, total frames duplicated: 2 (0.00%)
20:30:44: Total frames rendered: 55421, number of late frames: 1 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
20:30:53: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
20:30:54: Average send payload: 3639 bytes, average send interval: 20 ms
20:30:54: Number of times waited to send: 2, Waited for a total of 8208 bytes
20:30:54: Number of b-frames dropped: 61 (0.11%), Number of p-frames dropped: 74 (0.13%), Total 135 (0.24%)
20:30:54: Number of bytes sent: 166616459
20:30:54: 
20:30:54: Profiler time results:
20:30:54: 
20:30:54: ==============================================================
20:30:54: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.233 ms] [children: 76.4%] [unaccounted: 23.6%]
20:30:54: | scene->Preprocess - [0.429%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
20:30:54: | GPU download and conversion - [76%] [avg time: 0.177 ms] [children: 68.7%] [unaccounted: 7.3%]
20:30:54: | | flush - [42.9%] [avg time: 0.1 ms]
20:30:54: | | CopyResource - [25.3%] [avg time: 0.059 ms]
20:30:54: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.429%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
20:30:54: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.11 ms] [children: 99.1%] [unaccounted: 0.909%]
20:30:54: | Convert444toNV12 - [99.1%] [avg time: 0.109 ms]
20:30:54: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.312 ms]
20:30:54: ==============================================================
20:30:54: 
20:30:54: 
20:30:54: Profiler CPU results:
20:30:54: 
20:30:54: ==============================================================
20:30:54: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 15.6 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:30:54: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:30:54: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:30:54: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:30:54: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:30:54: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:30:54: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 46.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
20:30:54: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 46.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
20:30:54: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 15.6 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:30:54: ==============================================================
20:30:54: 
20:30:54: =====Stream End: 2013-10-24, 20:30:54=================================================
20:31:08: Server Ping plugin instance deleted; removing dynamically loaded localization strings

2000bitrate(no custom buffer), medium x264 preset, 60fps
http://www.twitch.tv/irs0osooom/b/473089733

Code:

20:31:58: Server Ping plugin strings not found, dynamically loading 24 strings
20:32:13: Open Broadcaster Software v0.583b - 64bit (　^ω^)
20:32:13: -------------------------------
20:32:13: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
20:32:13: CPU Speed: 3500MHz
20:32:13: Physical Memory:  16329MB Total, 13534MB Free
20:32:13: stepping id: 9, model 58, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
20:32:13: monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
20:32:13: Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
20:32:13: Aero is Enabled
20:32:13: -------------------------------
20:32:13: OBS Modules:
20:32:13: Base Address     Module
20:32:13: 000000003FA80000 OBS.exe
20:32:13: 00000000EE9D0000 OBSApi.dll
20:32:13: 00000000F30A0000 DShowPlugin.dll
20:32:13: 00000000F5CE0000 GraphicsCapture.dll
20:32:13: 00000000F3730000 NoiseGate.dll
20:32:13: 00000000F37E0000 PSVPlugin.dll
20:32:13: 00000000F0120000 ServerPingPlugin.dll
20:32:13: ------------------------------------------
20:32:13: Adapter 1
20:32:13:   Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN
20:32:13:   Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 2055929856
20:32:13:   Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3997763584
20:32:13:   Video Adapter Output 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
20:32:13: =====Stream Start: 2013-10-24, 20:32:13===============================================
20:32:13:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
20:32:13:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
20:32:13:   Output resolution: 852x480
20:32:13: ------------------------------------------
20:32:13: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN...
20:32:13: ------------------------------------------
20:32:13: Audio Format: 44100hz
20:32:13: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{0f92acbe-2545-4af3-ae4f-e64ccb0d8276}
20:32:13: ------------------------------------------
20:32:13: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
20:32:13: Using 7.1 surround speaker setup
20:32:13: ------------------------------------------
20:32:13: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
20:32:13: ------------------------------------------
20:32:13: Audio Encoding: AAC
20:32:13:     bitrate: 128
20:32:13: Using text output
20:32:13: Using bitmap image
20:32:13: Using graphics capture
20:32:13: Scene buffering time set to 400
20:32:13: Using custom x264 settings: "keyint=120"
20:32:13: ------------------------------------------
20:32:13: Video Encoding: x264
20:32:13:     fps: 60
20:32:13:     width: 852, height: 480
20:32:13:     preset: slow
20:32:13:     profile: high
20:32:13:     keyint: 120
20:32:13:     CBR: no
20:32:13:     CFR: yes
20:32:13:     max bitrate: 2000
20:32:13:     buffer size: 2000
20:32:13:     quality: 10
20:32:13: ------------------------------------------
20:32:13: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 3072000, samples per sec is 96000
20:32:13: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 768000, samples per sec is 96000
20:32:16: Total frames encoded: 157, total frames duplicated: 0 (0.00%)
20:32:16: Total frames rendered: 165, number of late frames: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
20:32:16: 
20:32:16: Profiler time results:
20:32:16: 
20:32:16: ==============================================================
20:32:16: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.308 ms] [children: 29.2%] [unaccounted: 70.8%]
20:32:16: | scene->Preprocess - [5.19%] [avg time: 0.016 ms]
20:32:16: | GPU download and conversion - [24%] [avg time: 0.074 ms] [children: 20.8%] [unaccounted: 3.25%]
20:32:16: | | flush - [18.5%] [avg time: 0.057 ms]
20:32:16: | | CopyResource - [1.95%] [avg time: 0.006 ms]
20:32:16: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.325%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
20:32:16: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.136 ms] [children: 98.5%] [unaccounted: 1.47%]
20:32:16: | Convert444toNV12 - [98.5%] [avg time: 0.134 ms]
20:32:16: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.368 ms]
20:32:16: ==============================================================
20:32:16: 
20:32:16: 
20:32:16: Profiler CPU results:
20:32:16: 
20:32:16: ==============================================================
20:32:16: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.189 ms, total 31.2 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:32:16: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:32:16: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:32:16: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:32:16: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:32:16: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:32:16: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
20:32:16: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
20:32:16: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:32:16: ==============================================================
20:32:16: 
20:32:16: =====Stream End: 2013-10-24, 20:32:16=================================================
20:33:13: =====Stream Start: 2013-10-24, 20:33:13===============================================
20:33:13:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
20:33:13:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
20:33:13:   Output resolution: 852x480
20:33:13: ------------------------------------------
20:33:13: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN...
20:33:13: ------------------------------------------
20:33:13: Audio Format: 44100hz
20:33:13: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{0f92acbe-2545-4af3-ae4f-e64ccb0d8276}
20:33:13: ------------------------------------------
20:33:13: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
20:33:13: Using 7.1 surround speaker setup
20:33:13: ------------------------------------------
20:33:13: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
20:33:13: ------------------------------------------
20:33:13: Audio Encoding: AAC
20:33:13:     bitrate: 128
20:33:13: Using text output
20:33:13: Using bitmap image
20:33:13: Using graphics capture
20:33:13: Scene buffering time set to 400
20:33:13: Using custom x264 settings: "keyint=120"
20:33:13: ------------------------------------------
20:33:13: Video Encoding: x264
20:33:13:     fps: 60
20:33:13:     width: 852, height: 480
20:33:13:     preset: medium
20:33:13:     profile: high
20:33:13:     keyint: 120
20:33:13:     CBR: no
20:33:13:     CFR: yes
20:33:13:     max bitrate: 2000
20:33:13:     buffer size: 2000
20:33:13:     quality: 10
20:33:13: ------------------------------------------
20:33:13: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 3072000, samples per sec is 96000
20:33:13: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 768000, samples per sec is 96000
20:33:13: SharedTexCapture hooked
20:33:19: Total frames encoded: 290, total frames duplicated: 0 (0.00%)
20:33:19: Total frames rendered: 299, number of late frames: 1 (0.33%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
20:33:19: 
20:33:19: Profiler time results:
20:33:19: 
20:33:19: ==============================================================
20:33:19: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.391 ms] [children: 14.3%] [unaccounted: 85.7%]
20:33:19: | scene->Preprocess - [0.767%] [avg time: 0.003 ms]
20:33:19: | GPU download and conversion - [13.6%] [avg time: 0.053 ms] [children: 12.3%] [unaccounted: 1.28%]
20:33:19: | | flush - [10.2%] [avg time: 0.04 ms]
20:33:19: | | CopyResource - [1.79%] [avg time: 0.007 ms]
20:33:19: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.256%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
20:33:19: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.102 ms] [children: 99%] [unaccounted: 0.98%]
20:33:19: | Convert444toNV12 - [99%] [avg time: 0.101 ms]
20:33:19: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.296 ms]
20:33:19: ==============================================================
20:33:19: 
20:33:19: 
20:33:19: Profiler CPU results:
20:33:19: 
20:33:19: ==============================================================
20:33:19: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.052 ms, total 15.6 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:19: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:19: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:19: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:19: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:19: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:19: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
20:33:19: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
20:33:19: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:19: ==============================================================
20:33:19: 
20:33:19: =====Stream End: 2013-10-24, 20:33:19=================================================
20:33:31: =====Stream Start: 2013-10-24, 20:33:31===============================================
20:33:31:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
20:33:31:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
20:33:31:   Output resolution: 852x480
20:33:31: ------------------------------------------
20:33:31: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN...
20:33:31: ------------------------------------------
20:33:31: Audio Format: 44100hz
20:33:31: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{0f92acbe-2545-4af3-ae4f-e64ccb0d8276}
20:33:31: ------------------------------------------
20:33:31: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
20:33:31: Using 7.1 surround speaker setup
20:33:31: ------------------------------------------
20:33:31: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
20:33:31: ------------------------------------------
20:33:31: Audio Encoding: AAC
20:33:31:     bitrate: 128
20:33:31: Using text output
20:33:31: Using bitmap image
20:33:31: Using graphics capture
20:33:31: Scene buffering time set to 400
20:33:31: Using custom x264 settings: "keyint=120"
20:33:31: ------------------------------------------
20:33:31: Video Encoding: x264
20:33:31:     fps: 60
20:33:31:     width: 852, height: 480
20:33:31:     preset: medium
20:33:31:     profile: high
20:33:31:     keyint: 120
20:33:31:     CBR: no
20:33:31:     CFR: yes
20:33:31:     max bitrate: 2000
20:33:31:     buffer size: 2000
20:33:31:     quality: 10
20:33:31: ------------------------------------------
20:33:31: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 3072000, samples per sec is 96000
20:33:31: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 768000, samples per sec is 96000
20:33:31: SharedTexCapture hooked
20:33:36: Total frames encoded: 263, total frames duplicated: 0 (0.00%)
20:33:36: Total frames rendered: 272, number of late frames: 1 (0.37%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
20:33:36: 
20:33:36: Profiler time results:
20:33:36: 
20:33:36: ==============================================================
20:33:36: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.405 ms] [children: 19%] [unaccounted: 81%]
20:33:36: | scene->Preprocess - [0.494%] [avg time: 0.002 ms]
20:33:36: | GPU download and conversion - [18.5%] [avg time: 0.075 ms] [children: 15.8%] [unaccounted: 2.72%]
20:33:36: | | flush - [13.8%] [avg time: 0.056 ms]
20:33:36: | | CopyResource - [1.73%] [avg time: 0.007 ms]
20:33:36: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.247%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
20:33:36: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.102 ms] [children: 99%] [unaccounted: 0.98%]
20:33:36: | Convert444toNV12 - [99%] [avg time: 0.101 ms]
20:33:36: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.307 ms]
20:33:36: ==============================================================
20:33:36: 
20:33:36: 
20:33:36: Profiler CPU results:
20:33:36: 
20:33:36: ==============================================================
20:33:36: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.057 ms, total 15.6 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:36: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:36: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:36: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:36: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:36: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:36: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
20:33:36: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
20:33:36: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:33:36: ==============================================================
20:33:36: 
20:33:36: =====Stream End: 2013-10-24, 20:33:36=================================================
20:33:50: =====Stream Start: 2013-10-24, 20:33:50===============================================
20:33:50:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
20:33:50:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
20:33:50:   Output resolution: 852x480
20:33:50: ------------------------------------------
20:33:50: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN...
20:33:50: ------------------------------------------
20:33:50: Audio Format: 44100hz
20:33:50: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{0f92acbe-2545-4af3-ae4f-e64ccb0d8276}
20:33:50: ------------------------------------------
20:33:50: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
20:33:50: Using 7.1 surround speaker setup
20:33:50: ------------------------------------------
20:33:50: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
20:33:50: ------------------------------------------
20:33:50: Audio Encoding: AAC
20:33:50:     bitrate: 128
20:33:50: Using text output
20:33:50: Using bitmap image
20:33:50: Using graphics capture
20:33:50: Scene buffering time set to 400
20:33:50: Using custom x264 settings: "keyint=120"
20:33:50: ------------------------------------------
20:33:50: Video Encoding: x264
20:33:50:     fps: 60
20:33:50:     width: 852, height: 480
20:33:50:     preset: medium
20:33:50:     profile: high
20:33:50:     keyint: 120
20:33:50:     CBR: no
20:33:50:     CFR: yes
20:33:50:     max bitrate: 2000
20:33:50:     buffer size: 2000
20:33:50:     quality: 10
20:33:50: ------------------------------------------
20:33:50: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 3072000, samples per sec is 96000
20:33:50: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 768000, samples per sec is 96000
20:33:50: SharedTexCapture hooked
20:33:59: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
20:33:59:   Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
20:33:59:   Interface: Intel(R) 82579V Gigabit Network Connection (ethernet, 100 mbps)
20:34:00: Completed handshake with rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app in 481 ms.
20:34:01: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
20:34:01: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
20:56:24: Capture window 0x0014053E invalid or changing, terminating capture
20:56:26: Total frames encoded: 81298, total frames duplicated: 14 (0.02%)
20:56:26: Total frames rendered: 81306, number of late frames: 1 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
20:56:35: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
20:56:35: Average send payload: 4142 bytes, average send interval: 18 ms
20:56:35: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
20:56:35: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
20:56:35: Number of bytes sent: 300088921
20:56:35: 
20:56:35: Profiler time results:
20:56:35: 
20:56:35: ==============================================================
20:56:35: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.231 ms] [children: 77.5%] [unaccounted: 22.5%]
20:56:35: | scene->Preprocess - [0.433%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
20:56:35: | GPU download and conversion - [77.1%] [avg time: 0.178 ms] [children: 70.6%] [unaccounted: 6.49%]
20:56:35: | | flush - [45%] [avg time: 0.104 ms]
20:56:35: | | CopyResource - [25.1%] [avg time: 0.058 ms]
20:56:35: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.433%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
20:56:35: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.121 ms] [children: 98.3%] [unaccounted: 1.65%]
20:56:35: | Convert444toNV12 - [98.3%] [avg time: 0.119 ms]
20:56:35: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.318 ms]
20:56:35: ==============================================================
20:56:35: 
20:56:35: 
20:56:35: Profiler CPU results:
20:56:35: 
20:56:35: ==============================================================
20:56:35: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 78 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:56:35: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:56:35: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 31.2 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:56:35: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 31.2 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:56:35: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:56:35: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:56:35: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0.001 ms, total 202.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
20:56:35: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0.001 ms, total 202.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
20:56:35: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.001 ms, total 124.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
20:56:35: ==============================================================
20:56:35: 
20:56:35: =====Stream End: 2013-10-24, 20:56:35=================================================
20:56:40: Server Ping plugin instance deleted; removing dynamically loaded localization strings

They kinda look the same to me..
What can I try to change to make it more crisp/clear?

Boildown · Oct 24, 2013

Try setting your audio devices to 44100, and turn CBR on instead of off. Might not have a huge effect, but 1) there's no good reason to make OBS convert 96000 audio to 41000, and 2) Twitch wants CBR on.

That bitrate is really high for 480p, so I don't know of much more that you can do to increase quality other than increase resolution. Try lessening the downscale (to increase resolution)? You'll probably have to stop using Medium preset if it gets much larger, but it should be more than worth the tradeoff. 2000 kbr is good for up to 720p.

Rough · Oct 25, 2013

I used to stream at 720p but then I went down,because 720p with 2000 bitrate was kinda crappy quality...
So which settings should I try with 720p and not to go over 2000 bitrate ?

Boildown · Oct 26, 2013

Rough said:
I used to stream at 720p but then I went down,because 720p with 2000 bitrate was kinda crappy quality...
So which settings should I try with 720p and not to go over 2000 bitrate ?

Maybe something in the upper 500s or 600p? The rest I pretty much answered already. Use something like Fast or Faster preset, and the other things I said, then post a new log file of you trying it for a while.

Lain · Oct 26, 2013

Remember to use bicubic or lanczos filtering as well to increase sharpness of downscaled streams.

Rough · Oct 26, 2013

So
I tried to stream at 720p/medium preset/30 fps lanczos/2000 bitrate/quality 8
http://www.twitch.tv/irs0osooom/b/473682720
I dont know,the stream looks choppy to me ..

Code:

17:14:09: Server Ping plugin strings not found, dynamically loading 24 strings
17:14:55: Open Broadcaster Software v0.583b - 64bit (　^ω^)
17:14:55: -------------------------------
17:14:55: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
17:14:55: CPU Speed: 3500MHz
17:14:55: Physical Memory:  16329MB Total, 12882MB Free
17:14:55: stepping id: 9, model 58, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
17:14:55: monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
17:14:55: Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
17:14:55: Aero is Enabled
17:14:55: -------------------------------
17:14:55: OBS Modules:
17:14:55: Base Address     Module
17:14:55: 000000003F6E0000 OBS.exe
17:14:55: 00000000F06A0000 OBSApi.dll
17:14:55: 00000000F5BC0000 DShowPlugin.dll
17:14:55: 00000000F5B90000 GraphicsCapture.dll
17:14:55: 00000000FAA90000 NoiseGate.dll
17:14:55: 00000000FB830000 PSVPlugin.dll
17:14:55: 00000000F8040000 ServerPingPlugin.dll
17:14:55: ------------------------------------------
17:14:55: Adapter 1
17:14:55:   Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN
17:14:55:   Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 2055929856
17:14:55:   Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3997763584
17:14:55:   Video Adapter Output 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
17:14:55: =====Stream Start: 2013-10-26, 17:14:55===============================================
17:14:55:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
17:14:55:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
17:14:55:   Output resolution: 1280x720
17:14:55: ------------------------------------------
17:14:55: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN...
17:14:55: ------------------------------------------
17:14:55: Audio Format: 44100hz
17:14:55: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{0f92acbe-2545-4af3-ae4f-e64ccb0d8276}
17:14:55: ------------------------------------------
17:14:55: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
17:14:55: Using 7.1 surround speaker setup
17:14:55: ------------------------------------------
17:14:55: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
17:14:55: ------------------------------------------
17:14:55: Audio Encoding: AAC
17:14:55:     bitrate: 128
17:14:55: Using text output
17:14:55: Using bitmap image
17:14:55: Using graphics capture
17:14:55: Scene buffering time set to 400
17:14:55: Using custom x264 settings: "keyint=60"
17:14:55: ------------------------------------------
17:14:55: Video Encoding: x264
17:14:55:     fps: 30
17:14:55:     width: 1280, height: 720
17:14:55:     preset: medium
17:14:55:     profile: high
17:14:55:     keyint: 60
17:14:55:     CBR: no
17:14:55:     CFR: yes
17:14:55:     max bitrate: 2000
17:14:55:     buffer size: 2000
17:14:55:     quality: 8
17:14:55: ------------------------------------------
17:14:55: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 3072000, samples per sec is 96000
17:14:55: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 768000, samples per sec is 96000
17:14:55: SharedTexCapture hooked
17:14:57: Total frames encoded: 32, total frames duplicated: 0 (0.00%)
17:14:57: Total frames rendered: 49, number of late frames: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
17:14:57: 
17:14:57: Profiler time results:
17:14:57: 
17:14:57: ==============================================================
17:14:57: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.633 ms] [children: 17.5%] [unaccounted: 82.5%]
17:14:57: | scene->Preprocess - [10.1%] [avg time: 0.064 ms]
17:14:57: | GPU download and conversion - [7.42%] [avg time: 0.047 ms] [children: 6.64%] [unaccounted: 0.79%]
17:14:57: | | flush - [5.53%] [avg time: 0.035 ms]
17:14:57: | | CopyResource - [0.948%] [avg time: 0.006 ms]
17:14:57: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.158%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
17:14:57: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.241 ms] [children: 99.6%] [unaccounted: 0.415%]
17:14:57: | Convert444toNV12 - [99.6%] [avg time: 0.24 ms]
17:14:57: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 1.713 ms]
17:14:57: ==============================================================
17:14:57: 
17:14:57: 
17:14:57: Profiler CPU results:
17:14:57: 
17:14:57: ==============================================================
17:14:57: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.318 ms, total 15.6 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:14:57: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:14:57: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:14:57: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:14:57: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:14:57: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:14:57: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
17:14:57: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
17:14:57: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:14:57: ==============================================================
17:14:57: 
17:14:57: =====Stream End: 2013-10-26, 17:14:57=================================================
17:14:58: =====Stream Start: 2013-10-26, 17:14:58===============================================
17:14:58:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
17:14:58:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
17:14:58:   Output resolution: 1280x720
17:14:58: ------------------------------------------
17:14:58: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN...
17:14:58: ------------------------------------------
17:14:58: Audio Format: 44100hz
17:14:58: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{0f92acbe-2545-4af3-ae4f-e64ccb0d8276}
17:14:58: ------------------------------------------
17:14:58: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
17:14:58: Using 7.1 surround speaker setup
17:14:58: ------------------------------------------
17:14:58: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
17:14:58: ------------------------------------------
17:14:58: Audio Encoding: AAC
17:14:58:     bitrate: 128
17:14:58: Using text output
17:14:58: Using bitmap image
17:14:58: Using graphics capture
17:14:58: Scene buffering time set to 400
17:14:58: Using custom x264 settings: "keyint=60"
17:14:58: ------------------------------------------
17:14:58: Video Encoding: x264
17:14:58:     fps: 30
17:14:58:     width: 1280, height: 720
17:14:58:     preset: medium
17:14:58:     profile: high
17:14:58:     keyint: 60
17:14:58:     CBR: no
17:14:58:     CFR: yes
17:14:58:     max bitrate: 2000
17:14:58:     buffer size: 2000
17:14:58:     quality: 8
17:14:58: ------------------------------------------
17:14:58: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 3072000, samples per sec is 96000
17:14:58: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 768000, samples per sec is 96000
17:14:58: SharedTexCapture hooked
17:15:07: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
17:15:07:   Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
17:15:08:   Interface: Intel(R) 82579V Gigabit Network Connection (ethernet, 100 mbps)
17:15:08: Completed handshake with rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app in 453 ms.
17:15:09: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
17:15:09: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
17:16:55: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Stalled for 4410 ms to write 270277 bytes (buffer: 0 / 272384), unstable connection?
17:29:47: Total frames encoded: 26669, total frames duplicated: 4 (0.01%)
17:29:47: Total frames rendered: 26675, number of late frames: 1 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
17:29:56: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
17:29:57: Average send payload: 5786 bytes, average send interval: 22 ms
17:29:57: Number of times waited to send: 4, Waited for a total of 16402 bytes
17:29:57: Number of b-frames dropped: 56 (0.21%), Number of p-frames dropped: 59 (0.22%), Total 115 (0.43%)
17:29:57: Number of bytes sent: 226026362
17:29:57: 
17:29:57: Profiler time results:
17:29:57: 
17:29:57: ==============================================================
17:29:57: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.251 ms] [children: 37.5%] [unaccounted: 62.5%]
17:29:57: | scene->Preprocess - [0.398%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
17:29:57: | GPU download and conversion - [37.1%] [avg time: 0.093 ms] [children: 33.9%] [unaccounted: 3.19%]
17:29:57: | | flush - [26.3%] [avg time: 0.066 ms]
17:29:57: | | CopyResource - [7.17%] [avg time: 0.018 ms]
17:29:57: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.398%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
17:29:57: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.262 ms] [children: 99.2%] [unaccounted: 0.763%]
17:29:57: | Convert444toNV12 - [99.2%] [avg time: 0.26 ms]
17:29:57: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.629 ms]
17:29:57: ==============================================================
17:29:57: 
17:29:57: 
17:29:57: Profiler CPU results:
17:29:57: 
17:29:57: ==============================================================
17:29:57: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.001 ms, total 46.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:29:57: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:29:57: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 15.6 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:29:57: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 15.6 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:29:57: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:29:57: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:29:57: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0.003 ms, total 202.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
17:29:57: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0.003 ms, total 202.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
17:29:57: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.005 ms, total 156.001 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:29:57: ==============================================================
17:29:57: 
17:29:57: =====Stream End: 2013-10-26, 17:29:57=================================================
17:30:05: Server Ping plugin instance deleted; removing dynamically loaded localization strings


Last game capture log:
2013-10-26, 17:14:55: we're booting up: 
17:14:55: D3D9 Present
17:14:55: (half life scientist) everything..  seems to be in order
17:14:55: D3D9EndScene called
17:14:55: D3DPRESENT_PARAMETERS {
17:14:55: 	BackBufferWidth: 1920
17:14:55: 	BackBufferHeight: 1080
17:14:55: 	BackBufferFormat: D3DFMT_A8R8G8B8
17:14:55: 	BackBufferCount: 1
17:14:55: 	MultiSampleType: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONE
17:14:55: 	MultiSampleQuality: 0
17:14:55: 	SwapEffect: D3DSWAPEFFECT_DISCARD
17:14:55: 	hDeviceWindow: 3278508
17:14:55: 	Windowed: true
17:14:55: 	EnableAutoDepthStencil: false
17:14:55: 	AutoDepthStencilFormat: D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
17:14:55: 	Flags: None
17:14:55: 	FullScreen_RefreshRateInHz: 0
17:14:55: 	PresentationInterval: 0
17:14:55: };
17:14:55: successfully set up d3d9 hooks
17:14:55: D3D9Present called
17:14:55: DoD3D9GPUHook: success
17:14:55: D3DSURFACE_DESC {
17:14:55: 	Format: D3DFMT_A8R8G8B8
17:14:55: 	Type: D3DRTYPE_SURFACE
17:14:55: 	Usage: D3DUSAGE_RENDERTARGET 
17:14:55: 	Pool: D3DPOOL_DEFAULT
17:14:55: 	MultiSampleType: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONE
17:14:55: 	MultiSampleQuality: 0
17:14:55: 	Width: 1920
17:14:55: 	Height: 1080
17:14:55: };
17:14:55: successfully capturing d3d9 frames via GPU
17:14:57: ---------------------- Cleared D3D9 Capture ----------------------
17:14:57: D3D9EndScene called
17:14:57: D3D9Present called
17:14:58: received restart event, capturing
17:14:58: DoD3D9GPUHook: success
17:14:58: D3DSURFACE_DESC {
17:14:58: 	Format: D3DFMT_A8R8G8B8
17:14:58: 	Type: D3DRTYPE_SURFACE
17:14:58: 	Usage: D3DUSAGE_RENDERTARGET 
17:14:58: 	Pool: D3DPOOL_DEFAULT
17:14:58: 	MultiSampleType: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONE
17:14:58: 	MultiSampleQuality: 0
17:14:58: 	Width: 1920
17:14:58: 	Height: 1080
17:14:58: };
17:14:58: successfully capturing d3d9 frames via GPU
17:29:47: ---------------------- Cleared D3D9 Capture ----------------------
17:29:47: D3D9EndScene called
17:29:47: D3D9Present called

PrefoX · Oct 26, 2013

yes its stuttering alot... got the same problem ; (

alpinlol · Oct 26, 2013

medium preset on 720p is just quite hard

Rough · Oct 26, 2013

Why it should be hard with 3770k @ 4.5 ?

Boildown · Oct 26, 2013

Rough said:
Why it should be hard with 3770k @ 4.5 ?

Because you're gaming on streaming on the same PC? I have a 4770k and a 2600k and medium is out of reach unless its doing NOTHING else, using a capture card.

First you get it working, then you tweak settings until you go too far, then you pull back a bit. That's the right way to do it. You're going too far and then trying to tweak further. That's not the right way.

Until you heed the advice given I for one have nothing more to say.

FerretBomb · Oct 27, 2013

Medium is extremely demanding on ANY modern CPU, to be frank.
With your hardware/bitrate, I'd probably go for 720@45 at 2000kbps, using the Faster or Fast preset at most.

Have you been monitoring CPU/GPU loads and temps while streaming?
Bear in mind that you will NEVER get a true 1:1 stream; some managing of expectations is usually in order for those just starting out.

Rough · Oct 27, 2013

Well,this is the vod on 720p@45 fps 2000kbps with fast preset..
http://www.twitch.tv/irs0osooom/b/473971733

Code:

11:09:41: Server Ping plugin strings not found, dynamically loading 24 strings
11:10:35: Open Broadcaster Software v0.583b - 64bit (　^ω^)
11:10:35: -------------------------------
11:10:35: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
11:10:35: CPU Speed: 3500MHz
11:10:35: Physical Memory:  16329MB Total, 13298MB Free
11:10:35: stepping id: 9, model 58, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
11:10:35: monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
11:10:35: Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
11:10:35: Aero is Enabled
11:10:35: -------------------------------
11:10:35: OBS Modules:
11:10:35: Base Address     Module
11:10:35: 000000003F220000 OBS.exe
11:10:35: 00000000EE330000 OBSApi.dll
11:10:35: 00000000EE2F0000 DShowPlugin.dll
11:10:35: 00000000FB8E0000 GraphicsCapture.dll
11:10:35: 00000000F2820000 NoiseGate.dll
11:10:35: 00000000F20A0000 PSVPlugin.dll
11:10:35: 00000000EE1C0000 ServerPingPlugin.dll
11:10:35: ------------------------------------------
11:10:35: Adapter 1
11:10:35:   Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN
11:10:35:   Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 2055929856
11:10:35:   Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3997763584
11:10:35:   Video Adapter Output 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
11:10:35: =====Stream Start: 2013-10-27, 11:10:35===============================================
11:10:35:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
11:10:35:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
11:10:35:   Output resolution: 1280x720
11:10:35: ------------------------------------------
11:10:35: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN...
11:10:35: ------------------------------------------
11:10:35: Audio Format: 44100hz
11:10:35: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{0f92acbe-2545-4af3-ae4f-e64ccb0d8276}
11:10:35: ------------------------------------------
11:10:35: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
11:10:35: Using 7.1 surround speaker setup
11:10:35: ------------------------------------------
11:10:35: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
11:10:35: ------------------------------------------
11:10:35: Audio Encoding: AAC
11:10:35:     bitrate: 128
11:10:35: Using text output
11:10:35: Using bitmap image
11:10:35: Using graphics capture
11:10:35: Scene buffering time set to 400
11:10:35: Using custom x264 settings: "keyint=90"
11:10:35: ------------------------------------------
11:10:35: Video Encoding: x264
11:10:35:     fps: 45
11:10:35:     width: 1280, height: 720
11:10:35:     preset: fast
11:10:35:     profile: high
11:10:35:     keyint: 90
11:10:35:     CBR: no
11:10:35:     CFR: yes
11:10:35:     max bitrate: 2000
11:10:35:     buffer size: 2000
11:10:35:     quality: 8
11:10:35: ------------------------------------------
11:10:36: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 3072000, samples per sec is 96000
11:10:36: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 768000, samples per sec is 96000
11:10:36: SharedTexCapture hooked
11:10:36: Total frames encoded: 0, total frames duplicated: 0 (-1.#J%)
11:10:36: Total frames rendered: 4, number of late frames: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
11:10:36: 
11:10:36: Profiler time results:
11:10:36: 
11:10:36: ==============================================================
11:10:36: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 3.006 ms] [children: 32.9%] [unaccounted: 67.1%]
11:10:36: | scene->Preprocess - [29.2%] [avg time: 0.879 ms]
11:10:36: | GPU download and conversion - [3.69%] [avg time: 0.111 ms] [children: 3.66%] [unaccounted: 0.0333%]
11:10:36: | | flush - [3.66%] [avg time: 0.11 ms]
11:10:36: ==============================================================
11:10:36: 
11:10:36: 
11:10:36: Profiler CPU results:
11:10:36: 
11:10:36: ==============================================================
11:10:36: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:36: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:36: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:36: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:36: ==============================================================
11:10:36: 
11:10:36: =====Stream End: 2013-10-27, 11:10:36=================================================
11:10:36: =====Stream Start: 2013-10-27, 11:10:36===============================================
11:10:36:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
11:10:36:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
11:10:36:   Output resolution: 1280x720
11:10:36: ------------------------------------------
11:10:36: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN...
11:10:36: ------------------------------------------
11:10:36: Audio Format: 44100hz
11:10:36: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{0f92acbe-2545-4af3-ae4f-e64ccb0d8276}
11:10:36: ------------------------------------------
11:10:36: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
11:10:36: Using 7.1 surround speaker setup
11:10:36: ------------------------------------------
11:10:36: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
11:10:36: ------------------------------------------
11:10:36: Audio Encoding: AAC
11:10:36:     bitrate: 128
11:10:36: Using text output
11:10:36: Using bitmap image
11:10:36: Using graphics capture
11:10:36: Scene buffering time set to 400
11:10:36: Using custom x264 settings: "keyint=90"
11:10:36: ------------------------------------------
11:10:36: Video Encoding: x264
11:10:36:     fps: 45
11:10:36:     width: 1280, height: 720
11:10:36:     preset: fast
11:10:36:     profile: high
11:10:36:     keyint: 90
11:10:36:     CBR: no
11:10:36:     CFR: yes
11:10:36:     max bitrate: 2000
11:10:36:     buffer size: 2000
11:10:36:     quality: 8
11:10:36: ------------------------------------------
11:10:36: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 3072000, samples per sec is 96000
11:10:36: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 768000, samples per sec is 96000
11:10:36: SharedTexCapture hooked
11:10:37: Total frames encoded: 0, total frames duplicated: 0 (-1.#J%)
11:10:37: Total frames rendered: 25, number of late frames: 1 (4.00%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
11:10:37: 
11:10:37: Profiler time results:
11:10:37: 
11:10:37: ==============================================================
11:10:37: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.574 ms] [children: 10.5%] [unaccounted: 89.5%]
11:10:37: | scene->Preprocess - [2.96%] [avg time: 0.017 ms]
11:10:37: | GPU download and conversion - [7.49%] [avg time: 0.043 ms] [children: 7.32%] [unaccounted: 0.174%]
11:10:37: | | flush - [7.32%] [avg time: 0.042 ms]
11:10:37: | | CopyResource - [0%] [avg time: 0 ms]
11:10:37: ==============================================================
11:10:37: 
11:10:37: 
11:10:37: Profiler CPU results:
11:10:37: 
11:10:37: ==============================================================
11:10:37: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 1.248 ms, total 31.2 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:37: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:37: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:37: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:37: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
11:10:37: ==============================================================
11:10:37: 
11:10:37: =====Stream End: 2013-10-27, 11:10:37=================================================
11:10:52: =====Stream Start: 2013-10-27, 11:10:52===============================================
11:10:52:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
11:10:52:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
11:10:52:   Output resolution: 1280x720
11:10:52: ------------------------------------------
11:10:52: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN...
11:10:52: ------------------------------------------
11:10:52: Audio Format: 44100hz
11:10:52: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{0f92acbe-2545-4af3-ae4f-e64ccb0d8276}
11:10:52: ------------------------------------------
11:10:52: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
11:10:52: Using 7.1 surround speaker setup
11:10:52: ------------------------------------------
11:10:52: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
11:10:52: ------------------------------------------
11:10:52: Audio Encoding: AAC
11:10:52:     bitrate: 128
11:10:52: Using text output
11:10:52: Using bitmap image
11:10:52: Using graphics capture
11:10:52: Scene buffering time set to 400
11:10:52: Using custom x264 settings: "keyint=90"
11:10:52: ------------------------------------------
11:10:52: Video Encoding: x264
11:10:52:     fps: 45
11:10:52:     width: 1280, height: 720
11:10:52:     preset: fast
11:10:52:     profile: high
11:10:52:     keyint: 90
11:10:52:     CBR: no
11:10:52:     CFR: yes
11:10:52:     max bitrate: 2000
11:10:52:     buffer size: 2000
11:10:52:     quality: 8
11:10:52: ------------------------------------------
11:10:52: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 3072000, samples per sec is 96000
11:10:52: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 768000, samples per sec is 96000
11:10:52: SharedTexCapture hooked
11:10:55: Total frames encoded: 120, total frames duplicated: 0 (0.00%)
11:10:55: Total frames rendered: 127, number of late frames: 1 (0.79%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
11:10:55: 
11:10:55: Profiler time results:
11:10:55: 
11:10:55: ==============================================================
11:10:55: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.429 ms] [children: 21.9%] [unaccounted: 78.1%]
11:10:55: | scene->Preprocess - [1.4%] [avg time: 0.006 ms]
11:10:55: | GPU download and conversion - [20.5%] [avg time: 0.088 ms] [children: 18.6%] [unaccounted: 1.86%]
11:10:55: | | flush - [16.3%] [avg time: 0.07 ms]
11:10:55: | | CopyResource - [1.17%] [avg time: 0.005 ms]
11:10:55: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [1.17%] [avg time: 0.005 ms]
11:10:55: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.236 ms] [children: 99.6%] [unaccounted: 0.424%]
11:10:55: | Convert444toNV12 - [99.6%] [avg time: 0.235 ms]
11:10:55: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.766 ms]
11:10:55: ==============================================================
11:10:55: 
11:10:55: 
11:10:55: Profiler CPU results:
11:10:55: 
11:10:55: ==============================================================
11:10:55: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:55: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:55: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:55: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:55: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:55: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:55: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
11:10:55: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
11:10:55: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.305 ms, total 31.2 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:10:55: ==============================================================
11:10:55: 
11:10:55: =====Stream End: 2013-10-27, 11:10:55=================================================
11:11:31: =====Stream Start: 2013-10-27, 11:11:31===============================================
11:11:31:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
11:11:31:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
11:11:31:   Output resolution: 1280x720
11:11:31: ------------------------------------------
11:11:31: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN...
11:11:31: ------------------------------------------
11:11:31: Audio Format: 44100hz
11:11:31: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{0f92acbe-2545-4af3-ae4f-e64ccb0d8276}
11:11:31: ------------------------------------------
11:11:31: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
11:11:31: Using 7.1 surround speaker setup
11:11:31: ------------------------------------------
11:11:31: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)
11:11:31: ------------------------------------------
11:11:31: Audio Encoding: AAC
11:11:31:     bitrate: 128
11:11:31: Using text output
11:11:31: Using bitmap image
11:11:31: Using graphics capture
11:11:31: Scene buffering time set to 400
11:11:31: Using custom x264 settings: "keyint=90"
11:11:31: ------------------------------------------
11:11:31: Video Encoding: x264
11:11:31:     fps: 45
11:11:31:     width: 1280, height: 720
11:11:31:     preset: fast
11:11:31:     profile: high
11:11:31:     keyint: 90
11:11:31:     CBR: no
11:11:31:     CFR: yes
11:11:31:     max bitrate: 2000
11:11:31:     buffer size: 2000
11:11:31:     quality: 8
11:11:31: ------------------------------------------
11:11:31: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 3072000, samples per sec is 96000
11:11:31: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (ASUS Xonar DGX Audio Device)' is 768000, samples per sec is 96000
11:11:31: SharedTexCapture hooked
11:11:40: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
11:11:40:   Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
11:11:40:   Interface: Intel(R) 82579V Gigabit Network Connection (ethernet, 100 mbps)
11:11:41: Completed handshake with rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app in 453 ms.
11:11:42: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
11:11:42: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
11:33:58: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Stalled for 4432 ms to write 270202 bytes (buffer: 0 / 272384), unstable connection?
11:43:38: Capture window 0x000F035A invalid or changing, terminating capture
11:43:43: Total frames encoded: 86877, total frames duplicated: 47 (0.05%)
11:43:43: Total frames rendered: 86883, number of late frames: 1 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
11:43:52: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
11:43:52: Average send payload: 5429 bytes, average send interval: 21 ms
11:43:52: Number of times waited to send: 4, Waited for a total of 16416 bytes
11:43:52: Number of b-frames dropped: 69 (0.079%), Number of p-frames dropped: 61 (0.07%), Total 130 (0.15%)
11:43:52: Number of bytes sent: 482159470
11:43:52: 
11:43:52: Profiler time results:
11:43:52: 
11:43:52: ==============================================================
11:43:52: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.24 ms] [children: 57.1%] [unaccounted: 42.9%]
11:43:52: | scene->Preprocess - [0.417%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
11:43:52: | GPU download and conversion - [56.7%] [avg time: 0.136 ms] [children: 51.7%] [unaccounted: 5%]
11:43:52: | | flush - [35.4%] [avg time: 0.085 ms]
11:43:52: | | CopyResource - [15.8%] [avg time: 0.038 ms]
11:43:52: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.417%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
11:43:52: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.267 ms] [children: 99.3%] [unaccounted: 0.749%]
11:43:52: | Convert444toNV12 - [99.3%] [avg time: 0.265 ms]
11:43:52: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.62 ms]
11:43:52: ==============================================================
11:43:52: 
11:43:52: 
11:43:52: Profiler CPU results:
11:43:52: 
11:43:52: ==============================================================
11:43:52: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.001 ms, total 124.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:43:52: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:43:52: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 78 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:43:52: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 46.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:43:52: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:43:52: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:43:52: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0.003 ms, total 639.604 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
11:43:52: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0.003 ms, total 639.604 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
11:43:52: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.004 ms, total 358.802 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
11:43:52: ==============================================================
11:43:52: 
11:43:52: =====Stream End: 2013-10-27, 11:43:52=================================================
11:43:56: Server Ping plugin instance deleted; removing dynamically loaded localization strings


Last game capture log:
2013-10-27, 11:10:35: we're booting up: 
11:10:36: D3D9 Present
11:10:36: (half life scientist) everything..  seems to be in order
11:10:36: D3D9EndScene called
11:10:36: D3DPRESENT_PARAMETERS {
11:10:36: 	BackBufferWidth: 1920
11:10:36: 	BackBufferHeight: 1080
11:10:36: 	BackBufferFormat: D3DFMT_A8R8G8B8
11:10:36: 	BackBufferCount: 1
11:10:36: 	MultiSampleType: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONE
11:10:36: 	MultiSampleQuality: 0
11:10:36: 	SwapEffect: D3DSWAPEFFECT_DISCARD
11:10:36: 	hDeviceWindow: 983898
11:10:36: 	Windowed: true
11:10:36: 	EnableAutoDepthStencil: false
11:10:36: 	AutoDepthStencilFormat: D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
11:10:36: 	Flags: None
11:10:36: 	FullScreen_RefreshRateInHz: 0
11:10:36: 	PresentationInterval: 0
11:10:36: };
11:10:36: successfully set up d3d9 hooks
11:10:36: D3D9Present called
11:10:36: DoD3D9GPUHook: success
11:10:36: D3DSURFACE_DESC {
11:10:36: 	Format: D3DFMT_A8R8G8B8
11:10:36: 	Type: D3DRTYPE_SURFACE
11:10:36: 	Usage: D3DUSAGE_RENDERTARGET 
11:10:36: 	Pool: D3DPOOL_DEFAULT
11:10:36: 	MultiSampleType: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONE
11:10:36: 	MultiSampleQuality: 0
11:10:36: 	Width: 1920
11:10:36: 	Height: 1080
11:10:36: };
11:10:36: successfully capturing d3d9 frames via GPU
11:10:36: ---------------------- Cleared D3D9 Capture ----------------------
11:10:36: D3D9EndScene called
11:10:36: D3D9Present called
11:10:36: received restart event, capturing
11:10:36: DoD3D9GPUHook: success
11:10:36: D3DSURFACE_DESC {
11:10:36: 	Format: D3DFMT_A8R8G8B8
11:10:36: 	Type: D3DRTYPE_SURFACE
11:10:36: 	Usage: D3DUSAGE_RENDERTARGET 
11:10:36: 	Pool: D3DPOOL_DEFAULT
11:10:36: 	MultiSampleType: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONE
11:10:36: 	MultiSampleQuality: 0
11:10:36: 	Width: 1920
11:10:36: 	Height: 1080
11:10:36: };
11:10:36: successfully capturing d3d9 frames via GPU
11:10:37: ---------------------- Cleared D3D9 Capture ----------------------
11:10:37: D3D9EndScene called
11:10:37: D3D9Present called
11:10:52: received restart event, capturing
11:10:52: DoD3D9GPUHook: success
11:10:52: D3DSURFACE_DESC {
11:10:52: 	Format: D3DFMT_A8R8G8B8
11:10:52: 	Type: D3DRTYPE_SURFACE
11:10:52: 	Usage: D3DUSAGE_RENDERTARGET 
11:10:52: 	Pool: D3DPOOL_DEFAULT
11:10:52: 	MultiSampleType: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONE
11:10:52: 	MultiSampleQuality: 0
11:10:52: 	Width: 1920
11:10:52: 	Height: 1080
11:10:52: };
11:10:52: successfully capturing d3d9 frames via GPU
11:10:55: ---------------------- Cleared D3D9 Capture ----------------------
11:10:55: D3D9EndScene called
11:10:55: D3D9Present called
11:11:31: received restart event, capturing
11:11:31: DoD3D9GPUHook: success
11:11:31: D3DSURFACE_DESC {
11:11:31: 	Format: D3DFMT_A8R8G8B8
11:11:31: 	Type: D3DRTYPE_SURFACE
11:11:31: 	Usage: D3DUSAGE_RENDERTARGET 
11:11:31: 	Pool: D3DPOOL_DEFAULT
11:11:31: 	MultiSampleType: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONE
11:11:31: 	MultiSampleQuality: 0
11:11:31: 	Width: 1920
11:11:31: 	Height: 1080
11:11:31: };
11:11:31: successfully capturing d3d9 frames via GPU

Thanks for the reply FB,and no,I never monitor temps.

Question / Help Lets try making it more crisp ?

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