Question / Help High ping and choppy stream

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tmedlin

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Hi guys,
I am new to the whole streaming world, but I am excited to get everything set up and running.
I have browsed through many threads on this forum and think I pretty much have the gist of everything and all the settings that I need for my setup.
I have 25MBPS Download and around 2-3 Upload.
I run the game on almost 400fps normally, but with new settings the fps drops which is not the problem, but the game becomes very pixely and choppy. It is not smooth and almost unplayable.
I am going to continue to work on the choppiness issue, but I do not understand the ping surging.
I know that is a problem often found, but my main issue is my ping goes from a steady 95 to between 133 and 178. What could be causing this?

I accidentally posted this originally in the wrong forum! Sorry admins!
 
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tmedlin

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[14:03:13: CUDA loaded successfully
14:03:13: 2 CUDA capable devices found
14:03:13: [ GPU #0 - < GeForce GTX 560 > has Compute SM 2.1, NVENC Not Available ]
14:03:13: [ GPU #1 - < GeForce GTX 560 > has Compute SM 2.1, NVENC Not Available ]
14:03:13: No NVENC capable devices found
14:21:11: Open Broadcaster Software v0.60b - 32bit (´・ω・｀)
14:21:11: -------------------------------
14:21:11: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz
14:21:11: CPU Speed: 3300MHz
14:21:11: Physical Memory: 4095MB Total, 4095MB Free
14:21:11: stepping id: 7, model 42, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
14:21:11: monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
14:21:11: monitor 2: pos={-1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
14:21:11: monitor 3: pos={1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
14:21:11: Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
14:21:11: Aero is Disabled
14:21:11: -------------------------------
14:21:11: OBS Modules:
14:21:11: Base Address Module
14:21:11: 013B0000 OBS.exe
14:21:11: 641B0000 OBSApi.dll
14:21:11: 70BC0000 DShowPlugin.dll
14:21:11: 70AA0000 GraphicsCapture.dll
14:21:11: 70A80000 NoiseGate.dll
14:21:11: 70A60000 PSVPlugin.dll
14:21:11: ------------------------------------------
14:21:11: Adapter 1
14:21:11: Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560
14:21:11: Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1024917504
14:21:11: Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3221106688
14:21:11: Video Adapter Output 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
14:21:11: Video Adapter Output 2: pos={-1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
14:21:11: ------------------------------------------
14:21:11: Adapter 2
14:21:11: Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560
14:21:11: Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1025048576
14:21:11: Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3220975616
14:21:11: Video Adapter Output 1: pos={1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
14:21:11: ------------------------------------------
14:21:11: Adapter 3
14:21:11: Video Adapter: Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000
14:21:11: Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 67108864
14:21:11: Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1711276032
14:21:11: =====Stream Start: 2014-02-12, 14:21:11===============================================
14:21:11: Multithreaded optimizations: On
14:21:11: Base resolution: 1920x1080
14:21:11: Output resolution: 1920x1080
14:21:11: ------------------------------------------
14:21:11: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 (Adapter 1)...
14:21:11: ------------------------------------------
14:21:11: Audio Format: 48000hz
14:21:11: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{eaa79569-f04b-4a72-a2f4-2fb840689c4f}
14:21:11: ------------------------------------------
14:21:11: Using desktop audio input: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
14:21:11: ------------------------------------------
14:21:11: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (2- Logitech G930 Headset)
14:21:11: ------------------------------------------
14:21:11: Audio Encoding: AAC
14:21:11: bitrate: 128
14:21:11: Using Window Capture
14:21:11: ------------------------------------------
14:21:11: device: \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_082d&mi_00#9&10cd297c&0&0000#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
14:21:11: device id \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_082d&mi_00#9&10cd297c&0&0000#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
14:21:11: chosen type: I420, usingFourCC: false, res: 1920x1080 - 1920x1080, frameIntervals: 333333-2000000
14:21:11: use buffering: false - 0, fourCC: 'I420'
14:21:11: audio device: Disable,
14:21:11: audio device id Disabled,
14:21:11:
14:21:11: Using directshow input
14:21:12: Scene buffering time set to 700
14:21:12: ------------------------------------------
14:21:12: Video Encoding: x264
14:21:12: fps: 35
14:21:12: width: 1920, height: 1080
14:21:12: preset: veryfast
14:21:12: profile: high
14:21:12: keyint: 70
14:21:12: CBR: yes
14:21:12: CFR: yes
14:21:12: max bitrate: 1000
14:21:12: buffer size: 1000
14:21:12: ------------------------------------------
14:21:14: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
14:21:14: Server selection: rtmp://live-ord.justin.tv/app
14:21:14: Interface: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (ethernet, 100 mbps)
14:21:14: Completed handshake with rtmp://live-ord.justin.tv/app in 230 ms.
14:21:15: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
14:21:15: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
14:21:19: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 131072 (buffer: 194 / 144384)
14:21:21: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 262144 (buffer: 0 / 144384)
14:21:48: Total frames encoded: 1223, total frames duplicated: 335 (27.39%)
14:21:48: Total frames rendered: 1227, number of late frames: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
14:21:48: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
14:21:48: Average send payload: 3420 bytes, average send interval: 26 ms
14:21:48: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
14:21:48: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
14:21:48: Number of bytes sent: 4142783
14:21:48:
14:21:48: Profiler time results:
14:21:48:
14:21:48: ==============================================================
14:21:48: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 13.439 ms] [children: 58.1%] [unaccounted: 41.9%]
14:21:48: | scene->Preprocess - [56.8%] [avg time: 7.64 ms]
14:21:48: | GPU download and conversion - [1.23%] [avg time: 0.165 ms] [children: 0.975%] [unaccounted: 0.253%]
14:21:48: | | flush - [0.506%] [avg time: 0.068 ms]
14:21:48: | | CopyResource - [0.231%] [avg time: 0.031 ms]
14:21:48: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.238%] [avg time: 0.032 ms]
14:21:48: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 1.774 ms] [children: 99.5%] [unaccounted: 0.507%]
14:21:48: | Convert444toNV12 - [99.5%] [avg time: 1.765 ms]
14:21:48: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 2.302 ms]
14:21:48: ==============================================================
14:21:48:
14:21:48:
14:21:48: Profiler CPU results:
14:21:48:
14:21:48: ==============================================================
14:21:48: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 4.526 ms, total 5553.64 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:21:48: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 3.661 ms, total 4492.83 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:21:48: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0.127 ms, total 156 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:21:48: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0.076 ms, total 93.6 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:21:48: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0.039 ms, total 46.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:21:48: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0.013 ms, total 15.6 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:21:48: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 1.528 ms, total 3666.02 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
14:21:48: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 1.522 ms, total 3650.42 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
14:21:48: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 1.731 ms, total 2074.81 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:21:48: ==============================================================
14:21:48:
14:21:48: =====Stream End: 2014-02-12, 14:21:48=================================================
14:22:45: =====Stream Start: 2014-02-12, 14:22:45===============================================
14:22:45: Multithreaded optimizations: On
14:22:45: Base resolution: 1920x1080
14:22:45: Output resolution: 1920x1080
14:22:45: ------------------------------------------
14:22:45: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 (Adapter 1)...
14:22:45: ------------------------------------------
14:22:45: Audio Format: 48000hz
14:22:45: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{eaa79569-f04b-4a72-a2f4-2fb840689c4f}
14:22:45: ------------------------------------------
14:22:45: Using desktop audio input: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
14:22:45: ------------------------------------------
14:22:45: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (2- Logitech G930 Headset)
14:22:45: ------------------------------------------
14:22:45: Audio Encoding: AAC
14:22:45: bitrate: 128
14:22:45: Using graphics capture
14:22:45: ------------------------------------------
14:22:45: device: \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_082d&mi_00#9&10cd297c&0&0000#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
14:22:45: device id \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_082d&mi_00#9&10cd297c&0&0000#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
14:22:45: chosen type: I420, usingFourCC: false, res: 1920x1080 - 1920x1080, frameIntervals: 333333-2000000
14:22:45: use buffering: false - 0, fourCC: 'I420'
14:22:45: audio device: Disable,
14:22:45: audio device id Disabled,
14:22:45:
14:22:45: Using directshow input
14:22:46: Scene buffering time set to 700
14:22:46: ------------------------------------------
14:22:46: Video Encoding: x264
14:22:46: fps: 35
14:22:46: width: 1920, height: 1080
14:22:46: preset: veryfast
14:22:46: profile: high
14:22:46: keyint: 70
14:22:46: CBR: yes
14:22:46: CFR: yes
14:22:46: max bitrate: 1000
14:22:46: buffer size: 1000
14:22:46: ------------------------------------------
14:22:46: SharedTexCapture hooked
14:22:48: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
14:22:48: Server selection: rtmp://live-ord.justin.tv/app
14:22:48: Interface: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (ethernet, 100 mbps)
14:22:48: Completed handshake with rtmp://live-ord.justin.tv/app in 246 ms.
14:22:49: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
14:22:49: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
14:22:52: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 131072 (buffer: 0 / 144384)
14:22:54: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 262144 (buffer: 0 / 144384)
14:28:32: GetQPCTimeNS: WTF, clock went backwards! 12290975957 < 12290975964
14:34:41: Exit signal received, terminating capture
14:35:58: SharedTexCapture hooked
14:42:35: Total frames encoded: 41582, total frames duplicated: 209 (0.50%)
14:42:35: Total frames rendered: 41580, number of late frames: 2 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
14:42:35: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
14:42:35: Average send payload: 3407 bytes, average send interval: 25 ms
14:42:35: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
14:42:35: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
14:42:35: Number of bytes sent: 155768845
14:42:35:
14:42:35: Profiler time results:
14:42:35:
14:42:35: ==============================================================
14:42:35: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 4.833 ms] [children: 18%] [unaccounted: 82%]
14:42:35: | scene->Preprocess - [14.4%] [avg time: 0.696 ms]
14:42:35: | GPU download and conversion - [3.58%] [avg time: 0.173 ms] [children: 2.98%] [unaccounted: 0.6%]
14:42:35: | | flush - [2.4%] [avg time: 0.116 ms]
14:42:35: | | CopyResource - [0.538%] [avg time: 0.026 ms]
14:42:35: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.0414%] [avg time: 0.002 ms]
14:42:35: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 1.491 ms] [children: 99.6%] [unaccounted: 0.402%]
14:42:35: | Convert444toNV12 - [99.6%] [avg time: 1.485 ms]
14:42:35: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 1.796 ms]
14:42:35: ==============================================================
14:42:35:
14:42:35:
14:42:35: Profiler CPU results:
14:42:35:
14:42:35: ==============================================================
14:42:35: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.973 ms, total 40482.3 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:42:35: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0.487 ms, total 20264.5 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:42:35: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0.037 ms, total 1544.41 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:42:35: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0.015 ms, total 624.002 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:42:35: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0.013 ms, total 577.203 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:42:35: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 31.2 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:42:35: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 1.326 ms, total 110262 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
14:42:35: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 1.325 ms, total 110121 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
14:42:35: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 1.144 ms, total 47549.1 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
14:42:35: ==============================================================
14:42:35:
14:42:35: =====Stream End: 2014-02-12, 14:42:35=================================================]
 
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hilalpro

Member
First double click your webcam source and lower it's resolution down from 1080p. Also downscale the stream resolution to something like 540p since 1080p require a lot more bandwidth than that.. Finally lower your FPS to 30 and enable MNI "minmize network impact" from your broadcasting settings to help with the ping issue.
 
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tmedlin

New Member
hilalpro said:
First double click your webcam source and lower it's resolution down from 1080p. Also downscale the stream resolution to something like 540p since 1080p require a lot more bandwidth than that.. Finally lower your FPS to 30 and enable MNI "minmize network impact" from your broadcasting settings to help with the ping issue.
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I am going to try out 720 first. Does which 720 i choose matter all that much?
Also I am getting a warning in red saying that my OBS setting are not optimized for use with twitch/justin.tv. Please set the following:Advanced Settings: Recommended x264 encoding profile is 'main' for this service.
Also after I reduced the resolution of the stream I get the option to disable Aero. Should I disable it and use monitor capture, or should I leave it enabled and run game capture?
 
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alpinlol

Active Member
i5 2500k doesnt handle 1080p so well especially if you go over 30 fps.

and its obviously looking horrible with 1000bitrate/buffer
 
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tmedlin

New Member
alpinlol said:
i5 2500k doesnt handle 1080p so well especially if you go over 30 fps.

and its obviously looking horrible with 1000bitrate/buffer
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I hear ya. How do I get my camera to show when in game capture? Or do I have to use widow/monitor capture for that?
 
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Sapiens

Forum Moderator
The camera should show up fine as a video capture source when you're using Game Capture, just make sure it's above the Game Capture source in the sources list so it isn't hidden "under" it in the scene.
 
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tmedlin

New Member
Got everything working, but my viewers can only hear my voice but the game sound and audio from spotify is like INSANELY quiet. Even when I turn it up to max on my computer it still doesn't get loud. I have tried messing with settings but with no luck. The only issue I can see is that I have my audio set up to play all sounds other than skype through my speakers and skype/voice chat programs to play through my headset.
 
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