jacobblockman
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How do i do this? i cant find GPU encoding this is what i see. I dont think i can use GPU encoding since i have an AMD GPU
Question / Help Good CPU for streaming?
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How do i do this? i cant find GPU encoding this is what i see. I dont think i can use GPU encoding since i have an AMD GPU
raindeeers
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You can use your AMD GPU to encode just fine if you have an HD7000 or newer graphics card.
Download the fork version of OBS as I already linked to.
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Guys, i'am in similiar spot right now.Building new pc and i want to play on it ( many new games ) and stream at the same time.
Would an i5-6600k do the job? or should i wait for 6700k to drop on price.
I got xfx xtr 550w gold
corsair air240 matx
cryorig c1
msi z170mortar
planing to buy the 16gb ddr4 2400 15 hyperx fury, and gtx 960 4gb around 30.01-05.02, so i got some time left for the 6700k price to drop- tho no idea if it is going to happen.
I rly wouldnt like my streaming performance drop because of the CPU.
Would an i5-6600k do the job? or should i wait for 6700k to drop on price.
I got xfx xtr 550w gold
corsair air240 matx
cryorig c1
msi z170mortar
planing to buy the 16gb ddr4 2400 15 hyperx fury, and gtx 960 4gb around 30.01-05.02, so i got some time left for the 6700k price to drop- tho no idea if it is going to happen.
I rly wouldnt like my streaming performance drop because of the CPU.
kittencannon
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ya, dont discount AMD. albeit not as well supported as others.. it holds its own once things get properly configured and sorted out.. also x.264 isnt terribly efficient.. use VCE where you can for AMD. now some CPUs specially lower end APUs like A4- A8 that its just not possible on compute side, probably possible with clever coding, to use iGPU to encode realtime in VCE/x.264, but on Computeside, no
Boildown
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If you want to stream and game at the same time, I would save for an i7. AMD's single core speeds are too slow for gaming, and an i5 will limit you for streaming. AMD's GPU are ok, but I think for saving to disk, NVEnc is a lot more trouble-free than VCE seems to be from reading that thread. Planning to stream (not just save to disk) with VCE, NVEnc, or Quicksync is almost always a bad idea. If you don't want to wait for a price drop, get any deal on a desktop i7 you can find... 2600k, 3770k, 4770k, etc. They're all better than any AMD or i5 for gaming and streaming at the same time and the newer ones are only a few percentage points faster than the older ones (if at all, if you overclock).
kittencannon
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i have to counter this a little bit for non techies asking this question, dont go for just any core i7 from yesteryear! some have really trash x.264 encoding and decoding compared to modern ones. honestly. a modern quad core i5 like skylake will beat out core i7 for same tasks from generations back.. now this all counting on factory clocks and such and assuming not going for extreme overclocks.
so is it better to get modern i5 or a core i7 from 3 years ago..no easy answer. will you be overclocking it on nice waterblock with high thermal dissipation? if yes, definatly go for i7.
are you going to be using standard off shelf air cooling solutions or basic AIO watercooling but overclocking? if so, go with modern skylake i5 and run using simple OC tool to force it to turbo clocks.
are u interested in learning about overclocking a core i7? if yes, ebay the hell out of a 3 yr old i7 for cheapest u can get then use some of saved money on a decent AIO water cooling solution and learn how to boost it up
do u like solving incompressible and potentially impossible puzzles? if so go with AMD FX series or A10-7xxx series.
not kidding, AMD stuff isn't weak of slow, just a mess...like FX 8 core isnt weak or slow.. the iGPU on A10 is very strong for integrated and has ability to real time encode, just like nothing that exists to do it correctly or well...yet.
AMD is really slow. I have to counter here. If you want a decent OC expirience, enough power to do what ever you want and enjoy it to the maximum - get a nice X99 system with the 5820k at least, overclock the hell out of it (pushed my CPU from 3,3 stock to 4,5GHz on all cores), slap a nice custom watercooling on top of it (and yes this is needed, its really hard to cool that OC if you want silence around you).
This is the best thing i have ever done to my PC. I can stream 1080p 60FPS with the "faster" preset with any game, have all the crap open in the background and i dont have to care about it. Imagine how powerful the 5960X or the new Broadwell-E 10core CPU would be.
This is the best thing i have ever done to my PC. I can stream 1080p 60FPS with the "faster" preset with any game, have all the crap open in the background and i dont have to care about it. Imagine how powerful the 5960X or the new Broadwell-E 10core CPU would be.
kittencannon
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again, depends what you're using it for i cant argue for some tasks but everyday tasks or typical gaming and doesnt suffer the like trolls and elites say it does.. for other stuff..yea .... intel CPU are stronger, AMD tend to be faster. apples to apples, AMD has higher bandwidth on Apus, faster throughput, but far less compute power so not exactly good processing unit as much as it is more of a high bandwidth affordable gateway that also can do some processing....so for basic things like facebook and youtube and ..desktop..or gaming on dedicated card its fine..video editing..now, phto editing, actually, not bad like core i3 level.. real issue comes with lack of community support, as everything AMD creates API wise is totally open source resource. while not always case with intel and nvidia.
for example, i would definitely recommend using intel cpus for video editing, and photo editing if a lot of CPU intensive work that can't be pushed to GPU/iGPU. however even the allegedly weak A10-7750K with dedicated graphics cards and again apples to apple comparisons, charts showing frames rates are comparable to core i5 in just about every game(no overclocks). and thus as of right now, nothing that properly/fully utilizes APIS and hardware AMD has for capturing and streaming either.. :( i personally thing my A8 and A10 apus are far more then enough on iGPU level for capture/recording/streaming but it appears to be a half baked feature thats sort of broken with no one wanting to fix it.
so ending rant there.
now onto a valid point about intel CPUS and which to get for noob overclockers: as for buying an expensive intel CPU then learning to overclock on it.. i dont recommend unless you have some idea and experience..nothing would ruin your day, week, month, year more than overvolting your CPU and killing it or baking memory controller or something then being out $300+ or living with erratic instability. definitely recommend getting one that's $50-75 used on ebay if your learning to OC.. if its 3 years old not too weak to real time encode/decode x.264, but have to play with OCing it to maximize it, but thats why u go cheap. doesn't matter if your rich or not, just stupid to be so willing to toss money away. this all applies for everyone not just OP.
now if ur not planning on OC; just get latest core i5 or i7 stick it on basic AIO watercooler so it can hover in automatic turbo mode longer..
and finally if ur willing to deal with impossible enigma, get an AMD APU and figure out how to capture via the iGPU. i been trying and i plan on trying until my elgato HD60 Pro arrives next week :D
for example, i would definitely recommend using intel cpus for video editing, and photo editing if a lot of CPU intensive work that can't be pushed to GPU/iGPU. however even the allegedly weak A10-7750K with dedicated graphics cards and again apples to apple comparisons, charts showing frames rates are comparable to core i5 in just about every game(no overclocks). and thus as of right now, nothing that properly/fully utilizes APIS and hardware AMD has for capturing and streaming either.. :( i personally thing my A8 and A10 apus are far more then enough on iGPU level for capture/recording/streaming but it appears to be a half baked feature thats sort of broken with no one wanting to fix it.
so ending rant there.
now onto a valid point about intel CPUS and which to get for noob overclockers: as for buying an expensive intel CPU then learning to overclock on it.. i dont recommend unless you have some idea and experience..nothing would ruin your day, week, month, year more than overvolting your CPU and killing it or baking memory controller or something then being out $300+ or living with erratic instability. definitely recommend getting one that's $50-75 used on ebay if your learning to OC.. if its 3 years old not too weak to real time encode/decode x.264, but have to play with OCing it to maximize it, but thats why u go cheap. doesn't matter if your rich or not, just stupid to be so willing to toss money away. this all applies for everyone not just OP.
now if ur not planning on OC; just get latest core i5 or i7 stick it on basic AIO watercooler so it can hover in automatic turbo mode longer..
and finally if ur willing to deal with impossible enigma, get an AMD APU and figure out how to capture via the iGPU. i been trying and i plan on trying until my elgato HD60 Pro arrives next week :D
kittencannon
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then other solution, go with cheapest decent quad core CPU thats modern, ..so back to the debatable AMD's and weaker core i3's with hyperthreading. and get a $200 capture card that handles all realtime encoding and just pump it threw ur favorite service.. or stream locally to hdd. just factor in savings and where want to put it if u decide to use a capture card to save money elsewhere..and possible even headache of not dealing with idiotic overclocks causing crashes or extra heat.
this is actually only true if you compare 1st gen i7 to current gen i5 everything starting at sandy bridge and later on the i7 side is just an "small upgrade" in comparison but they outrun an i5 by far when it comes to x264 realtime encoding
kittencannon
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factory clock to factory clock a modern core i5 vs older core i7 no..overclocked older i7 vs modern i5, yes def beat it..., also if thats true a xeon is a better upgrade as they so much cheaper and are basically core i7's with alot of extra security and enterprise sh.t built in...and better ASIC quality but in my experience they run x264 encoding slower unless get say 8 cores or more
Kind of late to this thread, but after reading it, I see the argument about modern intels vs older intels. I have an i7 2600 sandybridge coupled with a R9 390x. Would I be able to stream and play from the same pc, or is it best to just get another pc with another cpu just like the one I have and run two to stream (same cpu, just a lower gpu)? Thanks in advance
Boildown
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Any non-mobile i7 from the Sandy Bridge days or later is going to be pretty good for gaming and streaming at the same time.
not necessarily because how do broadcasts on Youtube would like to pass on 2k 60fps
Thank you