Question / Help Ehh, UP Speed help

S

StareX

New Member
Yo guys!

I'm trying to stream to Twitch and it's ok, but I don't like it being ugly looking, so I need to bump up my upload rate etc.

I currently have 2.80Mbps upload speed.. (3mbps generally).

When I launch a VPN and connect it to the UK, I get 80mbps down and 45mbps up .. Im trying to stream with over 4000kbps .. and it's like.. disconnecting, ... freezing, etc.. not so stable.

Is there a reason? Man, my UP speed is higher with a VPN than regular internet. What can I do?
 
1

1ManRaid

New Member
You can get perfectly fine looking 720p/30fps streams with 2500 bitrate which your non-VPN'd service is capable of. Have you tried that to see if the incompatibility is with your VPN service?

*edit*
Oh, and as far as I know the limit for non-partnered streams is 3500 bitrate. Why are you trying to go higher?
 
c3r1c3

c3r1c3

Member
I'll give you an example chain:
Computer (1Gb)->Home Router (100Mb)->Cable Modem (100Mb)-> Actual Internet upload speed (15Mb)->Unpartnered Twitch Streamer (3.5Mb): My max upload to Twitch will be 3.5Mb

Your chain: Internet Speed (3Mb)->VPN (45Mb)->Twitch... And by using VPN you are also adding several additional layers (that might be across trans-atlantic/inter-country lines... which tend to VERY slow/unreliable, esp. as to consistent latency), potentially greatly increasing latency, and making your connection to their servers much more complicated...

That complication enables more failure points... and failure in this case isn't a loss of connection, it's your next packet not arriving quickly enough for a person watch to see it without waiting. Real time streaming protocols (like RTMP, which twitch and OBS use) are much more sensitive to this then simple HTTP downloads/benchmarks.

Also unless you're a Twitch Partner going over 3500Kb/s is against the rules...
 
1

1ManRaid

New Member
Also, if you have a strong CPU you can up your encoding preset to improve video quality. It's not all about raw bitrate.
 
S

StareX

New Member
Alright @c3r1c3 ! Gotcha mate.

@1ManRaid - Really? To London or Frankfurt I'm getting:

Frankfurt: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3966876583.png

London: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3966879435.png


tbh.. Im trying 720p 30fps or 60fps .. but there are alot of pixel ugly motion in my stream.. dunno how to get rid out that :(

Also, won't 2500kbps, and the game would choke my upload speed? and probably download too if I play games? aka. I will lag and stuff....
hm?

And I have 4.20Ghz i5 3570k Processor... guess it's ok.

but a not so well GPU tho.. GTX 560 Ti :/
 
1

1ManRaid

New Member
What else would you be using your upload speed for when you're streaming? You're getting about 2900 upload without the VPN, so streaming at 2500 should be fine. I have no idea why you'd think that would have any affect on your 90Mb download connection tho...

But yeah, new video card would help in some regards.
 
S

StareX

New Member
1ManRaid said:
What else would you be using your upload speed for when you're streaming? You're getting about 2900 upload without the VPN, so streaming at 2500 should be fine. I have no idea why you'd think that would have any affect on your 90Mb download connection tho...

But yeah, new video card would help in some regards.
Click to expand...
mhm..

cuz when I maximize my up speed like 2500 .. I lag and the stream itself freezes and buffers for my friend. dunno.
 
S

StareX

New Member
Maybe.. I meant it freezes for me sometimes when the kbps is higher like 2500 .. and when there is high motion there are pixels .. hard to see :/ .. (cuz of 60fps ... I guess, dunno.. need to recheck that eh...)

and my friend yeah.. I guess he has some internet issues.. dunno...

and my specs are:

GTX 560 Ti
i5 3570k 4.20Ghz overclocked
16GB RAM 1600Mhz G.SKILL
Windows 8.1 64bit pro
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top