Question / Help Dropping Frames

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starkey951

New Member
Hi there

I'm having some major problems with my stream. I was originally on a 60meg connection with 5 meg upload and i used to stream in 720p fine.

I've had some major upgrades to my web and im now speedtesting at 9-10mbp/s upload to amsterdam (from north west uk) on testmy.net

Major problem is im dropping frames hard when i start my twitch stream (around 30-50%)

Copy of my speedtest to london

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Tryed lowered my maxbit rate to 3k 2k and 1k and same problem persists. Tryed changing the stream to 1080p 720p and lower and same issue occurs.

Using mainly default settings on advanced (key interval at 2), tryed quick sync CFR ect and same problem every time.

Im running a Intel i7 4770k (was overclocked now unclocked it incase it was causing instability)
8 gig ram
nvidia 650ti

The game im mainly trying to stream is wow

Tryed nearly every server on twitch and same issues occur

Running out of ideas :/ Idealistically i'd like to stream in 1080p, when the stream is up i receive absolutely no lag or frame drop ingame

Heres a copy of a log aswell in 720p (probably one of the better logs but still had 10% lost frames :/)

Code: 
17:33:58: Open Broadcaster Software v0.57b - 64bit (　^ω^)
17:33:58: -------------------------------
17:33:58: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
17:33:58: CPU Speed: 3491MHz
17:33:58: Physical Memory:  8079MB Total, 3817MB Free
17:33:58: stepping id: 3, model 12, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
17:33:58: monitor 1: pos={1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
17:33:58: monitor 2: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
17:33:58: Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
17:33:58: Aero is Enabled
17:33:58: -------------------------------
17:33:58: OBS Modules:
17:33:58: Base Address     Module
17:33:58: 000000003F170000 OBS.exe
17:33:58: 00000000E3590000 OBSApi.dll
17:33:58: 00000000FBB80000 DShowPlugin.dll
17:33:58: 00000000FBB50000 GraphicsCapture.dll
17:33:58: 00000000FBAA0000 NoiseGate.dll
17:33:58: 00000000FBA80000 PSVPlugin.dll
17:33:58: ------------------------------------------
17:33:58: Adapter 1
17:33:58:   Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 
17:33:58:   Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1018888192
17:33:58:   Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3221549056
17:33:58: ------------------------------------------
17:33:58: Adapter 2
17:33:58:   Video Adapter: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
17:33:58:   Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 67108864
17:33:58:   Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1711276032
17:33:58: Using fixed low latency mode, factor 20
17:33:58: =====Stream Start: 2013-09-28, 17:33:58===============================================
17:33:58:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
17:33:58:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
17:33:58:   Output resolution: 1280x720
17:33:58: ------------------------------------------
17:33:58: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti...
17:33:58: ------------------------------------------
17:33:58: Audio Format: 48000hz
17:33:58: Playback device Default
17:33:58: ------------------------------------------
17:33:58: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)
17:33:58: Using 5.1 speaker setup
17:33:58: ------------------------------------------
17:33:58: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)
17:33:58: ------------------------------------------
17:33:58: Audio Encoding: AAC
17:33:58:     bitrate: 128
17:33:58: Using Window Capture
17:33:58: ------------------------------------------
17:33:58: Video Encoding: x264
17:33:58:     fps: 60
17:33:58:     width: 1280, height: 720
17:33:58:     preset: veryfast
17:33:58:     profile: high
17:33:58:     keyint: 120
17:33:58:     CBR: yes
17:33:58:     CFR: no
17:33:58:     max bitrate: 2200
17:33:58:     buffer size: 2200
17:33:58: ------------------------------------------
17:33:58: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 1152000, samples per sec is 48000
17:33:58: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 352800, samples per sec is 44100
17:34:00: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
17:34:00:   Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr.justin.tv/app
17:34:00:   Interface: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller #2 (ethernet, 1000 mbps)
17:34:01: Completed handshake with rtmp://live-lhr.justin.tv/app in 678 ms.
17:34:02: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
17:34:02: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
17:34:27: RTMPPublisher::Socketloop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 131072 (buffer: 21699 / 297984)
17:35:01: Total frames encoded: 3722, total frames duplicated: 133 (3.57%)
17:35:01: Total frames rendered: 3723, number of late frames: 2 (0.05%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
17:35:01: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
17:35:03: Average send payload: 15205 bytes, average send interval: 60 ms
17:35:03: Number of times waited to send: 126, Waited for a total of 431275 bytes
17:35:03: Number of b-frames dropped: 188 (5.4%), Number of p-frames dropped: 343 (9.9%), Total 531 (15%)
17:35:03: Number of bytes sent: 14445067
17:35:03: 
17:35:03: Profiler time results:
17:35:03: 
17:35:03: ==============================================================
17:35:03: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 2.59 ms] [children: 87.1%] [unaccounted: 12.9%]
17:35:03: | scene->Preprocess - [87.1%] [avg time: 2.255 ms]
17:35:03: GPU download and conversion - [100%] [avg time: 0.07 ms] [children: 65.7%] [unaccounted: 34.3%]
17:35:03: | flush - [42.9%] [avg time: 0.03 ms]
17:35:03: | CopyResource - [18.6%] [avg time: 0.013 ms]
17:35:03: | conversion to 4:2:0 - [4.29%] [avg time: 0.003 ms]
17:35:03: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.444 ms] [children: 99.1%] [unaccounted: 0.901%]
17:35:03: | Convert444toNV12 - [99.1%] [avg time: 0.44 ms]
17:35:03: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.873 ms]
17:35:03: ==============================================================
17:35:03: 
17:35:03: 
17:35:03: Profiler CPU results:
17:35:03: 
17:35:03: ==============================================================
17:35:03: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.255 ms, total 951.605 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:35:03: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0.025 ms, total 93.602 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:35:03: GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0.054 ms, total 202.801 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:35:03: | flush - [cpu time: avg 0.041 ms, total 156.001 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:35:03: | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0.004 ms, total 15.6 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:35:03: | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0.004 ms, total 15.6 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:35:03: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0.621 ms, total 4570.83 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
17:35:03: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0.621 ms, total 4570.83 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
17:35:03: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.089 ms, total 327.602 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:35:03: ==============================================================
17:35:03: 
17:35:03: =====Stream End: 2013-09-28, 17:35:03=================================================
17:35:12: Settings::Video: Enabling Aero
17:35:13: Using fixed low latency mode, factor 20
17:35:13: =====Stream Start: 2013-09-28, 17:35:13===============================================
17:35:13:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
17:35:13:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
17:35:13:   Output resolution: 1280x720
17:35:13: ------------------------------------------
17:35:13: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti...
17:35:13: ------------------------------------------
17:35:13: Audio Format: 48000hz
17:35:13: Playback device Default
17:35:13: ------------------------------------------
17:35:13: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)
17:35:13: Using 5.1 speaker setup
17:35:13: ------------------------------------------
17:35:13: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)
17:35:13: ------------------------------------------
17:35:13: Audio Encoding: AAC
17:35:13:     bitrate: 128
17:35:13: Using Window Capture
17:35:13: ------------------------------------------
17:35:13: Video Encoding: x264
17:35:13:     fps: 30
17:35:13:     width: 1280, height: 720
17:35:13:     preset: veryfast
17:35:13:     profile: high
17:35:13:     keyint: 60
17:35:13:     CBR: yes
17:35:13:     CFR: no
17:35:13:     max bitrate: 2200
17:35:13:     buffer size: 2200
17:35:13: ------------------------------------------
17:35:13: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 1152000, samples per sec is 48000
17:35:13: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 352800, samples per sec is 44100
17:35:15: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
17:35:15:   Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr.justin.tv/app
17:35:15:   Interface: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller #2 (ethernet, 1000 mbps)
17:35:16: Completed handshake with rtmp://live-lhr.justin.tv/app in 386 ms.
17:35:17: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
17:35:17: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
17:35:37: RTMPPublisher::Socketloop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 131072 (buffer: 159509 / 297984)
17:37:03: Total frames encoded: 3283, total frames duplicated: 6 (0.18%)
17:37:03: Total frames rendered: 3288, number of late frames: 1 (0.03%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
17:37:04: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
17:37:09: Average send payload: 14432 bytes, average send interval: 53 ms
17:37:09: Number of times waited to send: 151, Waited for a total of 529991 bytes
17:37:09: Number of b-frames dropped: 62 (2%), Number of p-frames dropped: 66 (2.1%), Total 128 (4.1%)
17:37:09: Number of bytes sent: 28085735
17:37:09: 
17:37:09: Profiler time results:
17:37:09: 
17:37:09: ==============================================================
17:37:09: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 1.147 ms] [children: 61%] [unaccounted: 39%]
17:37:09: | scene->Preprocess - [61%] [avg time: 0.7 ms]
17:37:09: GPU download and conversion - [100%] [avg time: 0.127 ms] [children: 46.5%] [unaccounted: 53.5%]
17:37:09: | flush - [33.1%] [avg time: 0.042 ms]
17:37:09: | CopyResource - [11.8%] [avg time: 0.015 ms]
17:37:09: | conversion to 4:2:0 - [1.57%] [avg time: 0.002 ms]
17:37:09: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.47 ms] [children: 99.1%] [unaccounted: 0.851%]
17:37:09: | Convert444toNV12 - [99.1%] [avg time: 0.466 ms]
17:37:09: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.846 ms]
17:37:09: ==============================================================
17:37:09: 
17:37:09: 
17:37:09: Profiler CPU results:
17:37:09: 
17:37:09: ==============================================================
17:37:09: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.384 ms, total 1263.61 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:37:09: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:37:09: GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0.056 ms, total 187.201 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:37:09: | flush - [cpu time: avg 0.009 ms, total 31.2 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:37:09: | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0.033 ms, total 109.201 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:37:09: | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0.004 ms, total 15.6 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:37:09: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0.516 ms, total 3369.62 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
17:37:09: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0.513 ms, total 3354.02 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
17:37:09: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.076 ms, total 249.601 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:37:09: ==============================================================
17:37:09: 
17:37:09: =====Stream End: 2013-09-28, 17:37:09=================================================
17:37:29: Using fixed low latency mode, factor 20
17:37:29: =====Stream Start: 2013-09-28, 17:37:29===============================================
17:37:29:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
17:37:29:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
17:37:29:   Output resolution: 1280x720
17:37:29: ------------------------------------------
17:37:29: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti...
17:37:29: ------------------------------------------
17:37:29: Audio Format: 48000hz
17:37:29: Playback device Default
17:37:29: ------------------------------------------
17:37:29: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)
17:37:29: Using 5.1 speaker setup
17:37:29: ------------------------------------------
17:37:29: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)
17:37:29: ------------------------------------------
17:37:29: Audio Encoding: AAC
17:37:29:     bitrate: 128
17:37:29: Using Window Capture
17:37:29: ------------------------------------------
17:37:29: Video Encoding: x264
17:37:29:     fps: 30
17:37:29:     width: 1280, height: 720
17:37:29:     preset: veryfast
17:37:29:     profile: high
17:37:29:     keyint: 60
17:37:29:     CBR: yes
17:37:29:     CFR: no
17:37:29:     max bitrate: 2200
17:37:29:     buffer size: 2200
17:37:29: ------------------------------------------
17:37:29: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Speakers (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 1152000, samples per sec is 48000
17:37:29: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 352800, samples per sec is 44100
17:37:31: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
17:37:31:   Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr.justin.tv/app
17:37:31:   Interface: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller #2 (ethernet, 1000 mbps)
17:37:31: Completed handshake with rtmp://live-lhr.justin.tv/app in 384 ms.
17:37:32: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
17:37:32: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
17:37:54: RTMPPublisher::Socketloop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 131072 (buffer: 90240 / 297984)
17:38:34: RTMPPublisher::Socketloop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 262144 (buffer: 93378 / 297984)
17:40:23: Total frames encoded: 5196, total frames duplicated: 2 (0.04%)
17:40:23: Total frames rendered: 5201, number of late frames: 1 (0.02%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
17:40:26: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
17:40:43: Average send payload: 14251 bytes, average send interval: 59 ms
17:40:43: Number of times waited to send: 244, Waited for a total of 876736 bytes
17:40:43: Number of b-frames dropped: 169 (3.3%), Number of p-frames dropped: 277 (5.4%), Total 446 (8.7%)
17:40:43: Number of bytes sent: 41643353
17:40:43: 
17:40:43: Profiler time results:
17:40:43: 
17:40:43: ==============================================================
17:40:43: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 2.18 ms] [children: 78.9%] [unaccounted: 21.1%]
17:40:43: | scene->Preprocess - [78.9%] [avg time: 1.719 ms]
17:40:43: GPU download and conversion - [100%] [avg time: 0.096 ms] [children: 61.5%] [unaccounted: 38.5%]
17:40:43: | flush - [44.8%] [avg time: 0.043 ms]
17:40:43: | CopyResource - [14.6%] [avg time: 0.014 ms]
17:40:43: | conversion to 4:2:0 - [2.08%] [avg time: 0.002 ms]
17:40:43: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.507 ms] [children: 99.4%] [unaccounted: 0.592%]
17:40:43: | Convert444toNV12 - [99.4%] [avg time: 0.504 ms]
17:40:43: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 0.824 ms]
17:40:43: ==============================================================
17:40:43: 
17:40:43: 
17:40:43: Profiler CPU results:
17:40:43: 
17:40:43: ==============================================================
17:40:43: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.434 ms, total 2262.01 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:40:43: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0.002 ms, total 15.601 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:40:43: GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0.08 ms, total 421.203 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:40:43: | flush - [cpu time: avg 0.041 ms, total 218.402 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:40:43: | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0.027 ms, total 140.4 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:40:43: | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:40:43: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0.509 ms, total 5288.43 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
17:40:43: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0.508 ms, total 5272.83 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
17:40:43: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.081 ms, total 421.202 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
17:40:43: ==============================================================
17:40:43: 
17:40:43: =====Stream End: 2013-09-28, 17:40:43=================================================
 
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alpinlol

Active Member
mhm test looks fine shouldnt be a problem at all to stream at a 2200 bitrate... consider changing your streaming servers since you got like 5 for to chose i guess for europe...

nl ones probably one of the most recommended then theres uk and uk secondary they are literally the same then we got the new one in sweden stockholm and probably the worst server to chose would be the german one in frankfurt ... since people reported really weird issues with this one
 
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starkey951

New Member
Alright, so theoretically it should be possible for me to stream 1080p at 3500 mbp/s right?

ill try more servers again and see if the problem carrys on
 
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alpinlol

Active Member
yes with no problem keep in mind 3500 is the recommended maximum by twitch going over might result into getting your stream disconnected or even banned if its an excessive bitrate.

but then again for the viewers and the bad flash player its suggested to not even stream at 1080p even tho it looks just better but for high motion scenes etc 1280x720@60 with lanczos filter is also really good


another thing you could do is try another streaming service which would be www.hashd.tv just as an tryout to see if you can stream with 1920x1080@30@3500 and if its possible there you are pretty much fine everything else is on twitch ends and pretty much they fault then :/ cant do much more than lower your bitrate and streamed resolution to make them happy
 
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alpinlol

Active Member
right now its a 100% twitch .. because world is going on i cant even watch the fucking worlds stream on low thats how bad twitch is right now so yeah you gotta try it tomorrow morning or evening
 
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