Camera Blurry when high motion

2hollow

New Member
I have been streaming MW2 to kick the past 2 weeks and my camera keeps going blurry. I have googled this and have tried multiple solutions like lighting and making camera taking up bigger portion of the screen but that gets to ridiculous when trying to balance me with the game. I have a high end set up

RTX 3090
I9-12000KS

I also have amazing internet over 100mbps of upload I don't get dips in bitrate whilst streaming I've seen other streams and they are streaming MW2 with around the same viewers and similar specs maybe even a bit worse than mine. I just feel like I shouldn't be having these problems. Kick currently has me streaming at 720p it wont go above that for some reason. I'm just really stressed with it as I am regretting ever spending so much on my set up. if anyone can help me that would be great.
 

R1CH

Forum Admin
Developer
More bitrate is the only solution. Best to just live with it, every streamer has to deal with low bitrate limits.
 

qhobbes

Active Member
If you can't throw more bits at it, then throw some static content at it such as a border. Also post a log.
 

AaronD

Active Member
I believe the slower presets and multiple passes allow it to better allocate the bits that it does have to work with, at the expense of taking more processing power to figure all that out. If you have cycles to spare, and you haven't tried that yet, you might see how far you can push it and still be stable.

Somewhat counter-intuitively at first, but it does make sense when you sit down and think about it, a higher bitrate *reduces* the computational load, all else being equal, because it's not trying to figure out how to cram the same detail into less information. So set that as high as you can get away with first, and *then* look at the better-allocation settings.
 

qhobbes

Active Member
If your base is 1920x1080 and your camera only takes up 1/18 of the screen, then make sure the resolution of your camera matches that size and is not being scaled.
 

sandrix

Member
It is known for sure that twitch does not transcode the original video stream, so reducing the resolution and frame rate of the video makes sense in order to save bitrate and get a higher quality picture. As far as youtube/trovo is concerned, it doesn't make sense. Kick seems to also recode the original stream, if we are talking about it. If this is true, then 1080p 8000 kbps, period.
 

AaronD

Active Member
Another data point: I was streaming to YouTube, 1920x1080p30, PowerPoint slides for the first 20 minutes, then cameras for 90 minutes, and finally a static photograph for 10 minutes at the end (no CG-graphics from a game), 6000 kbps. YT's dashboard told me to reduce it to 4500 kbps. I kept it at 6000 for the entire 2 hours anyway, and it still seemed to work okay.
 

2hollow

New Member
Hi sorry guys didn't think anyone would reply after the first comment heres a log from my stream right now
 

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sandrix

Member
Okay, I'll check if kick transcodes the original stream or not. This greatly affects the encoder settings.
 

sandrix

Member
I found out that "kick" does not transcode the original video stream. This is good. But this only applies to resolutions above 720p!
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This is the error that you chose 720p resolution. Thus, "kick" once again compresses your video stream to 720p, but with a lower bitrate and encoder settings.
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So just avoid 720p resolution.

I can recommend these settings for MW2, they are the best you can get for this game.
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It's funny to realize that many streamers pointed to the platform "kick" 936p just for habit, having never heard of video transcoding, but it really works)).
 

2hollow

New Member
I found out that "kick" does not transcode the original video stream. This is good. But this only applies to resolutions above 720p!
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This is the error that you chose 720p resolution. Thus, "kick" once again compresses your video stream to 720p, but with a lower bitrate and encoder settings.
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So just avoid 720p resolution.

I can recommend these settings for MW2, they are the best you can get for this game.
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It's funny to realize that many streamers pointed to the platform "kick" 936p just for habit, having never heard of video transcoding, but it really works)).
thanks for that amazing input I appreciate that but kick downgrades your stream based on viewers so even if I change my resolution to 1080p or 936p it just shoots back down to 720p. I read a little about this and people have been saying that this was a quite recent decision I think its to save on bandwidth. That said I went back to twitch last night as I was really struggling to come to terms with the way kick was limiting me. I have no issues so far using twitch I can stream in 1080p with no blur at 8000 bitrate. But I have changed my settings to your recommendations I am going to see if it provides a better viewing experience even if its minor. But thanks for the help!!!!

Edit: just seen in your top pics that you was indeed able to stream above 720p at 864p that's bizarre to me no matter what I chose above 720p it just rendered it down to 720p again that's why I just switched to 720p because I thought well there is no beating it.
 
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