Question / Help 720p or not ..

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slacheur

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Bonjour à tous,

Ce topic ne concerne à tous ceux qui s'y connaissent dans ce domaine, merci d'avance !.
Voilà je stream depuis belle lurette, mais je viens de remarqué une chose qui date 1-2jours, je m'explique:

Avant je streamais en 720p donc la configuration obs: Réso: 1280x720/30fps/preset: Medium/Multi-thread: Haute/Bitrate: 2000kb/s. Et les personnes qui regardaient mon stream même ceux avec une connexion de 100 méga en download ne pouvaient pas regardais mon stream car leur lecteur ne fessais que se rafraîchir donc latence. Mais depuis 1-2 jours je stream avec les mêmes configurations obs sauf pour la résolution, cette résolution est de: 1096x616 (celui juste en dessous du 720p) et les personnes n'ont plus leur lecteur qui se rafraîchis.

Donc ma question est: comment et pourquoi en 720p je ne peux pas stream sans que les personnes ont leur lecteur qui se rafraîchis ?

Dans mon chat un viewer m'a dit "C'est sûrement ton pc qui ne supporte pas le 720p" cependant j'ai un bon pc, je vous passe ma config afin que vous y voyez clair.

Cpu: i7 2600k oc à 4.4Ghz
Gpu: Gtx 650Ti 2Go
Ram: 12Go
Alim: GS800W

Voilà ma config pc. En espérant que vous aurez une réponse afin de m'aider dans cette démarche un peu tirer par les cheveux.

Cordialement,
slacheur.

PS: Sorry pour les fautes d'orthographe et les verbes Franglais :p



English Version:

Hello everyone,

Here I flow for ages, but I just noticed something that dates 1-2jours, let me explain:

Before I fessais live 720p so the obs configuration: Reso: 1280x720 / 30fps / preset: Medium / Multi-threaded High / Bitrate: 2000kB / s.
And people watching my RSS even those with a connection 100mb / s download could not watch my stream because their player
therefore only cool off latency. But after 1-2 days I direct the same obs configurations except for the resolution, the resolution
is: 1096x616 (the one just below 720p) and people no longer have their reader who refreshed.

So my question is: How and Why to 720p I can not make lives without the people who drive them refreshed?

My cat a spectator said "It's probably your pc that does not support 720p" However, I have a good pc, I give you my setup so that you see clear.

Cpu: i7 2600k oc to 4.4Ghz
Gpu: GTX 650Ti 2GB
Ram: 12GB
Alim: GS800W

This is my pc configuration. Hope you have an answer to help me in this somewhat by the hair pull approach.

Best Regards,
slacheur.


PS: Sorry for my english, i use google translate ;).
 
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My logs of 2015-03-07: http://pastebin.com/r17fAd9G

And "logs analyzer":

Hook conflict detected

Game capture detected a hook conflict but was unable to determine which application was responsible. Try closing any other applications that may be injecting into your game, such as FRAPS, D3DGear, MSI Afterburner, AMD Raptr / Gaming Evolved, Action!, TeamSpeak/Mumble Overlays or any other kind of FPS monitor or overlay program
 
slacheur said:
My logs of 2015-03-07: http://pastebin.com/r17fAd9G

And "logs analyzer":

Hook conflict detected

Game capture detected a hook conflict but was unable to determine which application was responsible. Try closing any other applications that may be injecting into your game, such as FRAPS, D3DGear, MSI Afterburner, AMD Raptr / Gaming Evolved, Action!, TeamSpeak/Mumble Overlays or any other kind of FPS monitor or overlay program
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Code: 
"level=3.1 bframes=3 ref=1"

remove this from your customer x264 settings. let x264 set these based on the profile selected. i.e. level, bframes and reference frames that you send it.

I've seen these settings floating around and custom x264 settings aren't to be just copy pasted for all the same. so whoever you got these setttings from, tell them to stop.

since you are usings medium preset all these settings are being changed back since custom x264 overrides.

Lastly, use CBR, as using twitch with VBR will make it where twitch doesn't know if your connection is alive or not when your screen isn't moving. CBR also helps shape the traffic so there is a constant flow to twitch.
 
dping said:
Code: 
"level=3.1 bframes=3 ref=1"

remove this from your customer x264 settings. let x264 set these based on the profile selected. i.e. level, bframes and reference frames that you send it.

I've seen these settings floating around and custom x264 settings aren't to be just copy pasted for all the same. so whoever you got these setttings from, tell them to stop.

since you are usings medium preset all these settings are being changed back since custom x264 overrides.

Lastly, use CBR, as using twitch with VBR will make it where twitch doesn't know if your connection is alive or not when your screen isn't moving. CBR also helps shape the traffic so there is a constant flow to twitch.
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Now: http://pastebin.com/XiBfJZxa

But I always have this in "Log Analyzer" :

Hook conflict detected

Game capture detected a hook conflict but was unable to determine which application was responsible. Try closing any other applications that may be injecting into your game, such as FRAPS, D3DGear, MSI Afterburner, AMD Raptr / Gaming Evolved, Action!, TeamSpeak/Mumble Overlays or any other kind of FPS monitor or overlay program
 
slacheur said:
Now: http://pastebin.com/XiBfJZxa

But I always have this in "Log Analyzer" :

Hook conflict detected

Game capture detected a hook conflict but was unable to determine which application was responsible. Try closing any other applications that may be injecting into your game, such as FRAPS, D3DGear, MSI Afterburner, AMD Raptr / Gaming Evolved, Action!, TeamSpeak/Mumble Overlays or any other kind of FPS monitor or overlay program
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did the problem resolve itself with your viewers having to refresh?

also, try disabling broadcasting and in-home streaming within "Steam". those are common hooks, but as long as they aren't crashing or lagging you in-game, dont worry about the hooks


Lastly, The only thing I would worry about is that it is taking around 1 second to connect to the twitch server. I would try a different ingest. dont trust speedtests when it comes to streaming speeds,

try this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/478845-twitchtest-twitch-bandwidth-tester
 
When I run my stream on the obs window he said: "Can not find the window" what does that mean?

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slacheur said:
When I run my stream on the obs window he said: "Can not find the window" what does that mean?

200736test2.png
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If you are still online, link me to the stream. the message means what it says, the window needs to be started prior to OBS.
you should be using game capture though.
 
dping said:
If you are still online, link me to the stream. the message means what it says, the window needs to be started prior to OBS.
you should be using game capture though.
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So the summit that the reader refreshes can come from there? but when the game ends and must restart it always tell me that very thing so I'll have to turn back the stream.

My twitch channel: http://twitch.tv/slacheur

EDIT: I just tested, I started my first game and launched the stream after but I always get the message "Can not find the window"
 
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Since this morning I tested with one of my viewers that at 6.5Mb / s download, I can stream 720p only with a bitrate of 1700kb/s beyond 1700kb/s the reader is constantly refreshed .. is- this normal? I still 10mb/s upload.
 
slacheur said:
So the summit that the reader refreshes can come from there? but when the game ends and must restart it always tell me that very thing so I'll have to turn back the stream.

My twitch channel: http://twitch.tv/slacheur

EDIT: I just tested, I started my first game and launched the stream after but I always get the message "Can not find the window"
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one of the 10 overlays you have set must not be live. if all looks good, then ignore the message. if there is something missing, you might have to investigate which window is missing from your scene
 
dping said:
one of the 10 overlays you have set must not be live. if all looks good, then ignore the message. if there is something missing, you might have to investigate which window is missing from your scene
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Ok, but for that:
Since this morning I tested with one of my viewers that at 6.5Mb / s download, I can stream 720p only with a bitrate of 1700kb/s beyond 1700kb/s the reader is constantly refreshed .. is- this normal? I still 10mb/s upload.
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slacheur said:
Ok, but for that:
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Its not always you nor is is always him. some people just have issues with certain streamers with anything above 2Mb/s. if he is your only viewer then keep it low. if you are willing to accept that not all viewers over the internet will have a perfect picture, then keep it how you had it before.
 
dping said:
Its not always you nor is is always him. some people just have issues with certain streamers with anything above 2Mb/s. if he is your only viewer then keep it low. if you are willing to accept that not all viewers over the internet will have a perfect picture, then keep it how you had it before.
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except that perfect picture with 1700kb / s does not exist ..
 
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