Question / Help Streaming and Recording 1080p 60fps

[TroubleKlef]

So I am becoming extremely confused regarding the capture of 1080p @ 60fps video.

I know that there are limited capture cards out there that are capable of capturing at 60fps and a lot of popular gaming capture cards (Elgato, Avermedia LGP, Avermedia LG-HD) are limited to 1080p @ 30fps. So it would be impossible to stream 1080p @ 60fps with these cards, correct?

I know many streamers who use a dedicated streaming PC in order to lessen the load of their gaming PC so instead of using the capture cards mentioned above, do they use those $500+ cards to get 1080p @ 60fps quality?

I'm so confused and I hate being confused! D:

 

[BtbN]

Streaming 1080p at more than 30 fps isn't possible in an acceptable quality on a streaming bitrate, so it's not realy worth the hassle.

 

[dodgepong]

Elgato, LGP, and LGHD can accept 108p60 input but can only output at 1080p30 (output meaning output to the recording program).

The XCAPTURE-1 (USB 3.0) and SC-512N1-L (PCI-e) are capture cards made by Micomsoft that can input and output at 1080p60, and they only cost $350.

But as BtbN said, it's very difficult to stream in good quality at 1080p60 due to Twitch not wanting people to stream over 3500kbps. Furthermore, 1080p60 is very difficult for many viewers to even watch, due to the high demand of just decoding it, and because of how awful Flash is. It's very much not recommended to stream at 1080p60. Instead you should stream at 1080p30 or 720p60.

 

[TroubleKlef]

Wow quick replies for being such late at night :O Thank you :O

and I didn't plan on streaming at 1080p 60fps but I just read some news that YouTube was going to support 48fps and 60fps videos soon and I was looking to get a new capture card to take advantage of 1080p60.

Thank you for the quick replies and for clearing up the confusion!

 

[sneaky4oe]

http://www.twitch.tv/sneaky4oe/b/542716070

I guess it's really possible to stream in 1080p 48FPS 3500kbit/s. Maybe it won't look awesome at twitch without transcoding (because twitch sucks), but it looked awesome in realtime at other streaming services. And, of cause, it'll be really hard to get good looking picture with such low bitrate in action games - only moba and strategies are acceptable.

 

[BtbN]

Why would it look any diffrent on other streaming services? 1080p at 3500kbps is what it is, no matter on which site it's played.

 

[Jack0r]

I would personally recommend to simply use QuickSync or Nvenc (or soon AMD VCE) directly on your gaming PC. Been pretty much using it(quicksync) daily for 1080p60fps capture of all kinds of games. Just give it more bitrate for the recording and if necessary re-encode it afterwards before uploading.
If you want to stream at the same time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VQ9-Rym7n8