Question / Help Stream lags no mather what.

Ratlive

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Yo im getting really pissed about this OBS.

Ive been streaming for a while and all of the sudden everyone starts to lag at my stream even when im going with lower quality (1280x720) which looks like complete shit.
Ive tried every single option different but nothing happens , i got 100download speed and 60 upload so that shouldnt be a problem , also my pc specs are really good. Iäve asked around other streamers with the same amount of viewers about their settings and how they get things look so good , but there isnt anything special , its just like i have it.
My specs :
Video CardNVIDIA GeForce GTX 760
ProcessorIntel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Display Maximum Resolution1920 x 1080
Speed 3,4GHz

This is starting to pissing me off and i will probably change to a better program such as xsplit , but i would appreciate if someone told me what this problem was, some people are saying that i have bad connection with twitch , which i feel like it is.
And don't tell me its just twitch having problems today , because its not , its been like this for a while.

Would appreciate help.
 

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Lain

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Lain
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First of all, you need to understand that both the programs use the same exact encoder. If you claim that one "looks like shit" and the other doesn't, then you would unfortunately be mistaken. So you can make all the claims in the world you want but the fact that they use the same exact encoder library will never change.

Now, if your users are having lag, then you should probably read this: https://obsproject.com/forum/thread...oads-constantly-for-my-viewers-but-why.18465/

Lag can happen for any number of reasons. A viewer can't support a specific bitrate, the server that you're streaming to is far enough away from the viewer to cause problems, or who knows what. Issues with internet have so many variables that it's difficult to just say "this is the problem" or "that is the problem".

Use whatever program you want. I'll try to help but threatening to use another program and claiming that program is 'better' has no effect on me. I honestly don't really care what program you use. I'm not about to claim OBS is perfect or the 'best' or anything. It isn't -- anything touched by human beings is subject to imperfections and flaws.
 

Ratlive

New Member
First of all, you need to understand that both the programs use the same exact encoder. If you claim that one "looks like shit" and the other doesn't, then you would unfortunately be mistaken. So you can make all the claims in the world you want but the fact that they use the same exact encoder library will never change.

Now, if your users are having lag, then you should probably read this: https://obsproject.com/forum/thread...oads-constantly-for-my-viewers-but-why.18465/

Lag can happen for any number of reasons. A viewer can't support a specific bitrate, the server that you're streaming to is far enough away from the viewer to cause problems, or who knows what. Issues with internet have so many variables that it's difficult to just say "this is the problem" or "that is the problem".

Use whatever program you want. I'll try to help but threatening to use another program and claiming that program is 'better' has no effect on me. I honestly don't really care what program you use. I'm not about to claim OBS is perfect or the 'best' or anything. It isn't -- anything touched by human beings is subject to imperfections and flaws.
I havnt threaten anyone , all i mean is that xsplit is probably a better program for me , since on obs , nothing works , and i get no help to , everyone is thinking you don't know anything about nothing here. Everyone i've asked sais the same thing , "Lower bitrate" , like thats just the most simple thing , i know about bitrate and stuff and if i didnt i'd just search it up , but this is a real problem ,people with the exact same settings get 10x better quality and thats why i'm posting on the forums , which i never do otherwise. And yea , i've already read that thread and i dont know why it should be such a hard problem to solve , but it just is. Ive used xsplit earlier and it worked just fine , but the people sais that i should stream with obs , and i agree , obs is a BETTER program overall because it got alot more features , but as i said , i just cant get the quality to run smoothly as in xsplit , dunno why obs wouldnt work for me , and for me only.
 

Krazy

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Yeah, you aren't dropping frames, so the issue is 100% that thread Jim linked. There's very little you can do about it other than lower bitrate to the point where it doesn't matter how bad the connection is between Twitch and your viewers, but that will obviously impact quality in a big way.

Also, using Monitor Capture on Windows 7 with Aero enabled, and then turning on the "Slower" x264 preset is a great way to get everything to run like garbage. Use Game Capture, use CBR, and don't use NVENC or QuickSync if you are at all concerned about quality.

WoW is also a game where the full scene is almost constantly in motion, so 2500 bitrate isn't even really enough for 720p30fps. You can try using the Faster or Fast preset and 2500 bitrate to clean the picture up a bit, but really you're going to have to go closer to 3000 bitrate if you really want better quality. Of course, this will just exacerbate the issue you have with viewer lag, so you have to make a choice.
 

Lain

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Ah, I didn't spot that. Yea, be careful with the preset, and nvenc is also not going to produce a good looking output for streaming -- hardware encoders aren't going to look as good as x264.

The thing about monitor capture and window capture is that their performance on windows 7 will change depending on whether aero is enabled or not. For window capture, the ideal is to have aero on, for monitor capture, it's more ideal to have aero off. Aerodoesn't affect game capture though. It's a messy issue but that's how microsoft designed the operating system.
 
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