And how to they manage to get it look like 6k? How do i get http://de.twitch.tv/antixcsp/b/355345854 looking like http://de.twitch.tv/antixcsp/b/355348672. What else can be done to remove the pixelation?
Question / Help Sharper image
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Lowering the preset I guess. Why are you looking for the best possible stream quality? I understand if you're looking for sick quality if you're recording a video, but the quality is not that important when you're streaming. Stick with 720p at 60 fps, use 3500 in bitrate and buffer size and the quality balance set to 7 or 8.
Like i always thought 1080p was the best for the sharper image, but in the past 2 weeks I've changed to 720p 60fps and overall it's so much better. Yes don't get me wrong 1080p streams look great but you should only consider this IMO if your a twitch partner then other people with not so good internet can change it.
It depends on the amount of action happening on your stream. I stream at 720p@30 at 3200kbps, quality of 8. If I try streaming at that at 1080p, it looks worse. It really depends a lot on the amount of action. Quality setting sacrifices quality in high motion scenes, that's why you get pixelation. If you set it for 10 and the bitrate can't keep up you'll end up with dropped frames or higher bandwidth usage (I don't know which it is). 8 is just the value everyone recommends and I can't say I really have any evidence to dispute that.
As other people have noted, it's important to consider your viewers internet connection. With much of the world being on 3Mbps conncetions it makes sense to keep your bit rate lower unless you have the ability to offer your audience transcoded options (like 360p dropdown).
As other people have noted, it's important to consider your viewers internet connection. With much of the world being on 3Mbps conncetions it makes sense to keep your bit rate lower unless you have the ability to offer your audience transcoded options (like 360p dropdown).
Krazy
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There's very little pixelation, I think you are being too picky. You have to remember you are livestreaming and compressing an image that, when you are playing, is not compressed. It will never look 100% the same as when you are playing. There is just some compression you are going to have to live with. It's the nature of livestreaming.
I'm watching OP playing Dota 2 at the moment, and it seems that either he is dropping frames or his bitrate is too high to handle for my internet connection.
To OP: Please, please think of your viewers when setting up your stream since there is no way you can attract lots of viewers with such a high bitrate.
To OP: Please, please think of your viewers when setting up your stream since there is no way you can attract lots of viewers with such a high bitrate.
It doesn't matter if you had dropped frames on your end or in the logs. It's all about someone else's bandwidth, not your own. I was like the OP once and was completely set on 1080p. Then, I learned that it really doesn't matter if you're not a Twitch partner. They really don't give you the bandwidth to do something like that and your viewers will not have the Quality selector to downsample your stream if they lag.
Nobody will want to watch your stream if their computers can't handle what you're putting out. My suggestion is to try 720p@60fps. You'd be surprised at just how great it looks, especially to your viewers. :)
Nobody will want to watch your stream if their computers can't handle what you're putting out. My suggestion is to try 720p@60fps. You'd be surprised at just how great it looks, especially to your viewers. :)
http://de.twitch.tv/antixcsp/b/355680305
I think that's what i will go with. 720p, 60fps, quality 7, bitrate 2300 and buffer 3800.
U think the quality is good enough? Im just being so picky, cuz i'll do my first cast this sunday.
Regards
I think that's what i will go with. 720p, 60fps, quality 7, bitrate 2300 and buffer 3800.
U think the quality is good enough? Im just being so picky, cuz i'll do my first cast this sunday.
Regards
You could probably do a 8 or 9 and a bit rate of 3000 if you're doing high action like a FPS... I stream at 720p@30, qual 8, at 3000. Higher FPS uses more bandwidth. You really don't need to worry too much, unless you're pulling your viewers from somewhere you'll have plenty of time to adjust your cast over time if it's not to your liking.
Ok, i've tested it:
http://de.twitch.tv/antixcsp/b/355722896# << below with same settings except 30 instead of 60 fps.
60 fps looks better ....seems like it doesn't eat up that much bandwith compared to 30 ...otherwise there would be way more pixelation.
http://de.twitch.tv/antixcsp/b/355722896# << below with same settings except 30 instead of 60 fps.
60 fps looks better ....seems like it doesn't eat up that much bandwith compared to 30 ...otherwise there would be way more pixelation.
Yeah, I don't use 60fps because I don't like the performance hit to my system. I'm pretty confident my stream settings could handle it without a negative impact to visual quality. Dropping my computer performance affects the stream performance regardless of it looking better though... If it's jerky or laggy for you, it's going to be jerky and laggy for people watching even if your stream settings are kosher.
NS2 in particular is hard on your system even if you have some overhead free. If you're playing other FPS's 60fps would probably be the way to go. I hand considered streaming at 45fps at one point, but discarded that idea.
NS2 in particular is hard on your system even if you have some overhead free. If you're playing other FPS's 60fps would probably be the way to go. I hand considered streaming at 45fps at one point, but discarded that idea.