Question / Help Sharper image

Haliinen

Member
I don't understand, it looks really nice to me... Your buffer size should be the same as your bitrate by the way. There is no way you can make the image look any better because the stream is being encoded you know. That is probably the best you can get when streaming, you can try a slower preset but it is not recommended unless you got a monster to a CPU, like an overclocked i7 3930K.
 

Haliinen

Member
You can try a bitrate and buffer size of 3500 (for the viewer's sake, thinking of those with a poor connection), and the preset set to faster if you got a good CPU.
 

Antix

Member
Yeah, i guess i will have to lower the bitrate. Can't go with a slower CPU preset.... eats up to much performance. Do you think 3500 is enough for a good quality 720p 60fps?
 

Haliinen

Member
Definitely.

EDIT: It will be a bit harder to spot pixelation the smoother your stream is, if you're still in doubt try 4000 bitrate/buffer but not much beyond that. I would say that 3500 kbps is more than enough for 720p/60 fps streaming.
 

Haliinen

Member
I would choose 720p @ 60 fps. Since you're streaming a shooter, I would rather set the quality balance to be around 7 because of the high motion rate.
 

Antix

Member
but it doesnt pixelate at 10, so why lowering? i know i should lower it when it pixelates...but it doesnt.
 

Haliinen

Member
Well it's up to you, it looks pretty good when the quality balance is at 10 too. I was only considering a lower quality balance because you were streaming a shooter but 10 is absolutely fine as well.
 

Antix

Member
As long as it doesn't pixelate i dunno why i should lower it. btw ...i've done a test at 1080p 60fps @7000 bitrate. Looks awesome.... but therefore i`d need a partnership with twitch ....cuz 7000 is way to high for people with a bad connection.
 

Haliinen

Member
1080p @ 60 fps with a bitrate of 7000? No frames were dropped? I really want to see that. When I tried to stream on twitch the peak I could stream at was 6500 kbps, the server didn't allow a higher bitrate than that.
 

Antix

Member
Before that i tested 10k ... but my internet can't handle that, so i had to reduce to 7000. But actually it were 40fps.
 

Haliinen

Member
The servers won't let you stream with that bitrate either, or shouldn't. I can give it another test to see what the limit is today.
 

Haliinen

Member
Dang, looks like the twitch servers are a lot more buffed these days. I ran the bandwidth tester on XSplit with a bitrate of 8800 and got a green light. This must only be temporary however.
 

Krazy

Town drunk
They really don't like it when you go much over 3500, though.

Pugget said:
lt_yao, this is off topic, but at Twitch we consider streaming at 6Mbps bordering on abuse of the system. We've discussed banning any stream that presents an average bitrate that high, although we're not to that point yet. Such high bitrates are entirely unnecessary for high quality and limit the number of viewers who can actually watch, particularly if you are using VBR. They also suck up our VOD storage space. Please consider using a more reasonable setting such as 3.2-3.5 Mbps; 1080p will still look gorgeous. :D
 

Xaraa

Member
I agree anything above 4000kbps is unreal and very hard to view, most streamers who stream 1080p use 3000 - 3500kbps and it still looks the same as 6000kkbps.
 
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