Question / Help Separate game sounds from voip in recordings

[RogueLeizu]

I'm a new streamer and while I have things set up fine for actually streaming what I want to, my issue at the moment is being able to record what I want from that stream for later...

Here's what I'm after to give you an idea...

Stream = Game video and sounds + Mic + VOIP sounds... No problem...

Record = Game video AND sound ONLY... The problem...

I've been hunting around online for days trying to figure out how to do this...It seems like it wouldn't be a huge deal from someone that isn't a programmer, but apparently it is...I can't find any way at all to just capture the game source video and sound without the recording program picking up everything on my computer including my VOIP...

I know I'm no programer, but is it really so difficult for a program to actually look at a game source and record just that...? Or am I totally insane here...?

Does anyone actually do this that could show me what I'm missing here...? I feel like I'm missing something simple and stupid...I am a newb at this after all...

I want to be able to record the video and sound from a game so that later I can use that to make something like YouTube videos with, but I don't want my videos to have Vent, Mumble, Skype, or Mic chatter on it beforehand so I can overlay my own commentary on it in post production...Yet at the same time I would like to stream my live sessions out (Boss fights and such that I'd be wanting to record anyway) WITH the vent chatter and my Mic so I can talk to chat during my raids...

Any viable ideas and help would be greatly appreciated...

 

[dodgepong]

This is not possible to do with OBS. And no, you can't just record audio from a program in Windows. You can only record audio from an audio device.

 

[RogueLeizu]

Well if you can only do it via the channels like that, is there a mixer type program or something I can use that I can separate out all the channels so that I can pick and choose which sources go where in which program...?

It strikes me as odd that such a seemingly simple task is so hard to accomplish...There has to be a way, I just need some help figuring it out...I mean I've tried virtual audio cables already, but the problem is that when I spread out the sources with that they chatter over each other slightly causing something of an echo where every sound plays twice as its working through a "repeater" to merge channels together for the ability to multi output...So that option doesn't really work unless I'm just totally screwing a setting up with it somewhere...

Are there any type of sound board mixers out there that can separate out different source inputs and then merge them together for different outputs that something like DXTory can read one while OBS reads the other...? Cause then I could record one from DXTory while streaming from OBS...

I just need to figure out how to make the two different audio channels I'm after for each one...

 

[Jack0r]

Saving a video file with split audio tracks is no problem. But the Windows Audio System only offers the ability to capture the output of sound devices, not of programs. So the program has to have an option to select the output device (Skype, TS, etc have this option as well as many video and audio players), without this option we cannot split it from another program that is also lacking this option.
So in most cases with VAC you can get 3 Audio devices, one receiving windows default playback sounds, one receiving music, one receiving your skype chatter from friends. If your game allows you to select the output device you could even use a fourth line.
Now you could setup dxtory to capture these lines + your microphone and would have a multi-track-audio videofile. But without a setup in your computer that splits the different sound sources before windows mixes those, you cannot do much.

I think the rewrite of obs may allow multi-track audio recording so you will not need dxtory anymore as soon as that releases!

 

[RogueLeizu]

Hmmm...So basically, I can't record my streams and then still have the game sound to use in post production video...

Well that sucks...

I'm kinda surprised that something that seems like it would be so simple is impossible...

Well I'm going to keep working on it...I'm sure there's a way...Even if it's not a simple one...

IF I manage to get it figured out, I'll post my "fix" in case anyone else would like to be able to do the same thing...

Wish me luck...And still, if anyone has ideas, I'm open to options...

 

[Jack0r]

Maybe my older guide can help you a bit:
http://www.helping-squad.com/wp/multi-t ... recording/

 

[RogueLeizu]

Okay, so that solved some of the issues, but for some reason when I record only line one I'm still picking up the VoIP programs even though they're going out through Line 2 and Line 2 isn't set to record...

The rest is working though...

Any idea what I missed with the VoIP setups there where the DXTory is still picking up VoIP even though it's not set to record that line...?

 

[RogueLeizu]

Okay, nevermind...I had a setup wrong...

Thanks for telling me about the "listening" to the VAC lines...That's what I was missing...

I actually found a way to get everything set up the way I wanted without the need for any repeaters running...

I'll try to formulate a post later tonight about what I did in case anyone else is interested in recording footage during a stream without haing the vent/mumble/teamspeak showing up in the recordings...

:D

Thanks for that last link...Some of the info in that helped me figure out a way around the problem...