OBS redux

[TheRevTastic]

Update on capture device situation: Got all devices working 100% except the HD PVR Rocket.

To my surprise, the roxio only has a half second delay, has the lowest latency of any USB 2.0 device so far (not that it makes much of a difference, any delay is bad, but still).

Will be uploading the code soon, have it on a test branch at the moment. Might put it in OBS1 as well.

Yessssssssssssss

 

[Julia Mortellaro]

is anyone gonna answer my question? :(

 

[StealthBlade98]

The delay isn't a "problem" that can be "fixed". All HD USB 2.0 capture cards that encode their output have a delay between what is live and what appears on screen. The Elgato has 1500ms of delay, for example. The 500ms of the Roxio is relatively low.

So it can't be fixed through a update and it's part of the design of the machine?

 

[Lain]

Julia Mortellaro - you need to use "color key" in window capture, but there is no such feature in the multiplatform version, only the older windows version.

StealthBlade98 - that's correct, USB 2.0 has limited bandwidth, not sufficient to transmit high resolution video, so the way USB 2.0 devices work around it is by compressing the video, sending it over USB 2.0, then decompressing it after that, which incurs a significant delay to the video. It's completely unavoidable.

 

[Amenince]

Julia Mortellaro - you need to use "color key" in window capture, but there is no such feature in the multiplatform version, only the older windows version.

StealthBlade98 - that's correct, USB 2.0 has limited bandwidth, not sufficient to transmit high resolution video, so the way USB 2.0 devices work around it is by compressing the video, sending it over USB 2.0, then decompressing it after that, which incurs a significant delay to the video. It's completely unavoidable.

Hello Jim,

I was wondering if you'd be able to tell me how much of an improvement it will be using the Roxio Game Capture HD Pro via the video game capture (if you decide to incorporate it into OBS1) as opposed to using the region capture? I know that my CPU is maxing out whenever I use region capture because the resources are going to, not only OBS, but also the preview window. I'm assuming that, whenever the Roxio is included in OBS1 or Studio, it will free up CPU resources that can go towards OBS and all the encoding. Thanks in advance for any info you can give me.​

 

[Lain]

It'll probably be much better to use it in OBS itself. OBS uses FFmpeg to decode it which contains some of the most efficient decoders. OBS will also automatically resize the source to the actual size of the video.

 

[Joshua Fabian]

Two questions, ive followed this forum for a while, any idea when obs multiplatform will be released for windows? and second, has the issue on obs been fixed where i can video capture the roxio in order to not have the rainbow bars?

 

[Amenince]

It'll probably be much better to use it in OBS itself. OBS uses FFmpeg to decode it which contains some of the most efficient decoders. OBS will also automatically resize the source to the actual size of the video.

That will be extremely better! I can't wait, thanks for all the hard work and I'm definitely looking forward to finally using this Roxio with OBS the right way.

Two questions, ive followed this forum for a while, any idea when obs multiplatform will be released for windows? and second, has the issue on obs been fixed where i can video capture the roxio in order to not have the rainbow bars?

I don't want to sound rude, but if you've been following the thread for a while you should know there is no ETA on OBS Multi (Studio) so they can't give a definitive answer. It's more or less going to arrive when it's in a stable enough stage that the majority of the features work. Also, Jim just got the Roxio and other devices working the other day, but there hasn't been an implementation into the current OBS yet. Jim stated that he might incorporate it into OBS Original, but if not we'll still have to wait until OBS Studio :) I know how hard it is, I've been following the thread since the beginning, but we will soon have our Roxio support.

 

[Joshua Fabian]

thank you, i got it working with window capture finally though, so ill stick to that for now.

 

[StealthBlade98]

I have a question, which i'd like to fix before the update with hauppauge releases. On window capture when I preview the what's showing like the desktop, it creates like an endless loop of images going inward like some warp hole or something. How do I fix that? I'm testing some stuff so that maybe I could record something using that but don't want a endless loop on the screen. This isn't even full screen btw

 

[dodgepong]

The Windows version of OBS Multiplatform should be available with the next release. The next release may be several weeks away, however.

 

[TheRevTastic]

The Windows version of OBS Multiplatform should be available with the next release. The next release may be several weeks away, however.

You made me fall in love with you and then proceeded to break my heart.

 

[Boildown]

What features will be included in the initial release of OBS Multiplatform for Windows?

 

[dodgepong]

The main thing is encoded capture devices on Windows with Jim's new libdshowcapture library. Jim wanted to make sure that was in the first Windows release, since that is what people have been asking for for a long time, and it was promised that it would come as part of the rewrite. Beyond that, I'm not sure...it will depend on what people end up working on. I know Faruton already has a browser source cooking for all platforms, which also includes the ability to interact with sources through the sourced preview window, such as clicking on links in the browser source. I don't know if the browser source and interaction stuff will be included in the default OBS Multiplatform binary or be treated as a third party plugin still, but we'll see.

I know that Syphon support has been experimented with already, but it remains to be seen if that will be done for the next release or not as well.

 

[TheRevTastic]

I think I'm actually more excited for the capture devices to be put into OBS 1. It seems I wasted my money on xSplit as my webcam won't work with it...

 

[dodgepong]

I'm not certain that they will be added to OBS1. I believe the plan is to only add them to OBS Multiplatform. My understanding was that adding them to OBS1 would be a significant amount of work, though Jim is free to correct me.

 

[Mrgreen55]

I'm not certain that they will be added to OBS1. I believe the plan is to only add them to OBS Multiplatform. My understanding was that adding them to OBS1 would be a significant amount of work, though Jim is free to correct me.

i got a question for you dodgepong if we been using OBS then we move to OBS multiplatform will the old OBS get written over so we cant use the old OBS or is there a new ico ?? im a little confused by all that can some on shine some light on this

 

[StealthBlade98]

Honestly, i was under the impression the OBS multiplatform was just another update for the OBS main software as it improves on everything the original did judging by what i've heard so far. It makes little sense to have two separate versions if the code is being rewritten to be better

 

[Lain]

The original version will be replaced (deprecated) when it has all (or at least key) features of the original.

 

[TheRevTastic]

I'm not certain that they will be added to OBS1. I believe the plan is to only add them to OBS Multiplatform. My understanding was that adding them to OBS1 would be a significant amount of work, though Jim is free to correct me.

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Update on capture device situation: Got all devices working 100% except the HD PVR Rocket.

To my surprise, the roxio only has a half second delay, has the lowest latency of any USB 2.0 device so far (not that it makes much of a difference, any delay is bad, but still).

Will be uploading the code soon, have it on a test branch at the moment. Might put it in OBS1 as well.