Question / Help New to streaming, What should I upgrade?

Toxicus

New Member
According to testmy.net - Right now, while I am streaming with a boatload of internet tabs up and ventrilo, I am getting 8.6mb upload with the 33mb test.

My PC specs are as follows
CPU - i5 2500
MoBo - ASUS Sabertooth P67
RAM - Corsair Vengeance 1666 - 16 GB
Vid - Nvidia GTX 560ti Limited Edition
HDD - Just a 7200 RPM Sata, I think WD.
Cam - Microsoft LifeCam HD-5000

I have tax money coming in right now and have approximately $1000 to spend on upgrading this PC so that my stream is more stable and a higher quality. As of right now I keep getting that warning about taking too long to encode.

Also, can you guys link me some guides a newbie should read up on to make OBS run smoother with my set up?

Thanks for your time!
Toxicus
 
depending on what you're wanting to stream you may be fine unless you're wanting to use this as an excuse to upgrade. the "taking too long to encode" error can be a few things not related to your PC at all. Lower your frame rate that you're streaming at to 30fps and put your encoding preset on a faster setting.

What are you current OBS settings at right now?
 

Toxicus

New Member
I play games as easy on graphics as WoW and as rough on graphics as BF4.

Is there a way to copy/paste a config file or something instead of going through every option?

As for the FPS, I have it set to 30 fps as is, thats what I started with. The x264 setting is very fast.

Also, I always upgrade my PC every 2 years. This is the 2 year mark, so I was looking at getting the best bang for the buck.
 
well your settings are good in my opinion so that means it would fall back solely on your CPU for the encoding error. But side note... I NEVER received that error until this latest OBS version and it's only whenever my game is loading, once I'm in the game all is well.
 

Toxicus

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Well, for the CPU I found a i7 3770 Ivy Bridge for a decent price. I don't know much about the "Bridges" and which is good. I think my current i5 is a Sandy Bridge. Does that make a difference?
 
that just refers to their generation in the line. most people would recommend a i7 3770k because of the hyperthreading and overclockability of it.
 

Toxicus

New Member
How much of a change is the 3770 vs 3770k? It's only a $30 difference, but if the performance increase is negligible I'd rather avoid the extra costs.
 

Toxicus

New Member
In all honesty, I have NEVER OC'd anything. As I really do not wish to fry any of my components. BUT, I do plan on trying to get myself a liquid cooling system this year. Is it worth it?
 

PermTrouble

New Member
Last I checked, the 4770k price was very close to the 3770k. Being within 20sh dollars, drove me to grabbing the 4770k.

Seen the 4820k even cheaper but that required a 2011 board and they looked to get pretty pricey by comparison.

Edit - currently building a new PC as well. Piece by piece like the broke white trash I am :P
 

Toxicus

New Member
Unfortunately, the motherboard I have, which I don't plan on replacing does not support the 4770 since I have a Socket 1155 mobo.

So is a liquid cooling system worth the cash? Would I need to custom build one that cools my CPU, Ram and Vid card? or do they sell them set up for that configuration?
 

PermTrouble

New Member
A custom loop is probably overkill until you start getting cray cray with the over clocking. If you're going to do a mild overclock, then a Closed Loop for the CPU is worth looking into. But if not overclocking at all, then a normal air cooler will be more than fine.

My current build uses the old version of the Cooler Master v8 air cooler, which is by no means a top end cooler. Yet my 2500k @ 4.3 doesn't break 55C while gaming.
 

Toxicus

New Member
Maybe its my case, I'm not sure, but my MoBo has a like 12 temp probes and parts of my MoBo (such as near my RAM) will get over 60 or 70c at times. Which was why I was wondering if a LC system would be good or not.
 

PermTrouble

New Member
I would check on your cases current airflow before getting into custom loop water cooling.

I'm just afraid the return might not be worth the investment. Though, it'll look cool and be quiet..so that could be worth it to ya, I guess
 

Toxicus

New Member
I don't care if its quiet, I just want to work on keeping it under 60c when I'm gaming AND stream smoothly at 1080p (even if downscaled to 720)

My case has 3 120mm fans. One in the front pulling in, one on the side pulling in and one in the back pulling out. It also has a 120mm fan on the CPU (Coolermaster GeminII CPU cooler) Yet it still gets over 60c at times. Any ideas?
 

Boildown

Active Member
This really isn't an overclocking forum, but if you want help with your streaming, post an OBS log file so we can see what's slowing you down.

I would think for World of Warcraft your current CPU should be able to handle it all just fine.
 

Toxicus

New Member
Yea, I'm not really worried about Overclocking. I came more to find out what hardware would be the best upgrade for stream performance. My posts didnt request any information about OC'ing, someone just said if I cared about OC"ing that I should get the 3770k instead of the 3770.

I dont really play WoW anymore, but I do play things like BF4 and what not. Soon I'll be playing Wildstar too.
 

Boildown

Active Member
Pretty much the best CPU you can get at a reasonable price is the 4770k, but you need a new motherboard for that. If you want to keep your current motherboard, the 3770k is almost as good. They are both significantly better than the i5s that gamers tend to favor, when you want to stream and game at the same time.

If you're playing games more intensive than WoW, then it might be worth upgrading. If you were just playing WoW, then I wouldn't bother. For BF4 its probably worth it. Posting a log file may give other insights in case you're doing something wrong (monitor capture, poor video card, bad preset, etc).
 
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