Question / Help New to streaming ...stream fuzzy

[TheGamerCrowd]

Hello everyone
i have been going over almost every post on here to find out the problem with my stream. i have used the log analyzer to no avail. obs tells me i have no dropped frames.

First let me point out i am streaming xbox one
i am running 720p at 60fps
capture device is elgato hd

pc is i7 4770
12gb ram
nvidia gtx 650

This is the link to my testmy
http://testmy.net/AQJcofv.png

and here is my latest obs log
https://gist.github.com/9cbf1bc1b3671174353e


Thank you for taking the time to help it is very much appreciated

 

[Sapiens]

You should probably link to an example video that you think is fuzzy. If 720p60 at the medium preset and 3500 Mbps doesn't yield a decent looking stream I don't know if you just need to have more realistic expectations or something else is going on. :P

 

[TheGamerCrowd]

You should probably link to an example video that you think is fuzzy. If 720p60 at the medium preset and 3500 Mbps doesn't yield a decent looking stream I don't know if you just need to have more realistic expectations or something else is going on. :P

lol i hope that's not the case

i have tried 1080p 30 fps as well it just does not look crisp.
another thing i forgot to mention in my first post is that when i watch or people i know watch the stream buffers a lot.

how would i go about recording the stream.
sorry for the noob questions

 

[Sapiens]

Streams tend to buffer more often when you use higher bitrates like 3500 Kbps, it just means that the data can't get from Twitch to a viewer fast enough. Lowering the bitrate lets more people watch but reduces quality, so typically you would do something like downscale the resolution/lower the frame rate/use more compression to compensate.

You can save local copies of your stream by checking the "Save to file" box under Settings > Broadcast Settings and entering a file path. You can also have Twitch save them by turning on "Automatically archive my broadcasts" at http://www.twitch.tv/settings/channel

 

[TheGamerCrowd]

Streams tend to buffer more often when you use higher bitrates like 3500 Kbps, it just means that the data can't get from Twitch to a viewer fast enough. Lowering the bitrate lets more people watch but reduces quality, so typically you would do something like downscale the resolution/lower the frame rate/use more compression to compensate.

You can save local copies of your stream by checking the "Save to file" box under Settings > Broadcast Settings and entering a file path. You can also have Twitch save them by turning on "Automatically archive my broadcasts" at http://www.twitch.tv/settings/channel

ok i will get right on that. i will post a vid of 2 games or so

Thank you for taking the time to help

 

[TheGamerCrowd]

ok so i did what you said.

here is the vid on twitch. could not figure out how to post the vid i recorded via obs

http://www.twitch.tv/thegamercrowd/b/505501787

the fluidity of the vid is OK. i just don't find it crisp. the reason i am picky with this is i am looking to go full time with this endeavor and want to offer the best quality possible .

again thank you for your time and help

 

[Krazy]

It's way more important for people to actually be able to view your content without lagging because it doesn't matter if you have the crispest picture in the world if your stream is a slideshow for a lot of your viewers. Streaming at 3500 bitrate is a good way to ensure people will have to buffer your stream a lot.

Assuming you are streaming from console, the best thing to do is go back down to like 2000-2500 bitrate and lower your encoding preset in Advanced settings as much as your CPU can handle.

And really, a high motion game like a fighter, with lots of particle effects and stuff...it's always going to look subpar without insane bitrates.

 

[TheGamerCrowd]

i agree with you for sure in regards to getting more people to watch with lower bit-rates. but from an experienced twitch viewer i have watch an insane amount of really high quality streams with no buffer or frame lag at all. i would love to get my stream into that range of quality. i think my cpu should be good enough.

Because i am new to this i am not sure if my expectations are far fetched.

i appreciate all the input and hope for some more advice

thank you

 

[Krazy]

Well, you're one of the lucky ones that gets to watch a lot of the high quality streams on Source, then. Many people can't sustain the download speed for that.

 

[TheGamerCrowd]

i tried what you suggested i lowered the bit-rate to 2500 and put my encoding preset to medium (lowest i can put without dropping frames/error message when streaming). it runs smooth and probably allows for more people to watch, but unfortunately i am still experiencing a blur effect when in motion. i have videos up on my twitch showing the example. it is not a taxing game either it is Fifa 14 in a practice mode.

here is a link to the video.
http://www.twitch.tv/thegamercrowd/b/505517142

as you can see in the vid when i am standing still at the beginning it looks fantastic. when i start to move around a blur effect starts to happen.

thanks

 

[Krazy]

There's just only so much you can do at lowish bitrates for real time encoding, man. You'll have to either accept some macro blocking and be more viewer friendly, or raise your bitrate and potentially alienate viewers with buffering issues.

 

[TheGamerCrowd]

its a shame that's the case because even at 3500 i am getting the blur effect. seeing as 3500 is the maximum for twitch i don't see how that could be the only fault.

sorry if i am busting chops its just i would love to get this problem resolved
i am even trying 1080p 30 fps and uploading them to twitch with different bit rates i have tried 2500-3000 and the stream stutters i am going to try 3500 the twitch maximum and see if that rectifies the situation

Edit: i just tried 3500 and the video lags. what would be the problem now ?
here is my latest obs log
https://gist.github.com/679296658d67716d9e19

 

[Sapiens]

1080p30 at the medium preset/720p60 at the slow preset is too much for your CPU to handle. From the videos you linked there is no problem to solve, the quality is quite good. It sounds like you'll just need to lower your expectations or stream at 720p30. Remember that your viewers will appreciate a watchable stream much more than an ultra high quality stream that buffers constantly.