Question / Help My stream is buffering for my viewers

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brkANN

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Hi guys i need help. I like to strema, but i have problem when i stream on twitch, my stream is lagging on it.
I stream CSGO for the most part but it's crazy that i don't have buffering on gaming youtube, but i do on twitch.

Can u guys help me setup my steam options.
My pc spec is:
I5-4690k
R9 380 4gb ddr5
12gb ram 1600mhz
Internet: 50down 4up
And my location is serbia.
I tryed 100's of configs and setups but twitch allways lags and stutters on twitch but not on youtube,
Sorry for my bad engl. thank's for you're help . :)
 
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dsr07mm

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That is because you are not pertner on twitch and viewers cant select 360/480/720 as they would on youtube.

You need to stream at 2500 or 3000 bitrate, you can lower preset to faster or fast to compensate lower bitrate to higher cpu usage but I doubt that you can do that on that i5.

Also do you get dropped frames ?

Also what provider do you use ? SBB ? Because they are shit and from experience I can't stream last 3 years neither properly without issues despite having fiber.
 
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brkANN

New Member
No, i don't have dropped frames. And i use SBB. But i have no problem with them. I'll try to set preset to fester or fast, ill see if it work. Any other suggestion or i just go to yt gaming service. :)
thanks buddy :D
 
FerretBomb

FerretBomb

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Non-partners are advised not to exceed 2000kbps on Twitch. 720p@30fps video will fit into that bitrate budget very nicely.
2500 will cause many viewers to buffer, and 3000 will cause even more to be unable to watch.
 
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dsr07mm

Member
  • Recommended bitrate for 720p: 1800-2500
That also doesn't have anything with streamer/twitch, its more for viewers who cant handle stream without buffering etc. Doing 2500 is completely fine even on inet 10/1 on 2 cores cpu. So -500 bitrate will do nothing only lower quality, noticable.

Majority of partnered streamers including big ones are streaming in 720p aswel and they are still using 3500-4000 bitrate due to options and different way of encoding source quality. There is an limit till which viewer can watch someone content.
 
FerretBomb

FerretBomb

Active Member
Not according to the usage metrics Twitch released a year and change ago. They showed that 2000 is the breakpoint after which the viewer buffering rates significantly increased. Even going to 2500 showed a significant increase in player buffer events. Partners can get away with higher due to transcoder availability, so anyone who buffers at their source bitrate can switch to a lower quality version. It appears that you're pulling that number from a general rule-of-thumb listing somewhere (possibly the quite outdated Twitch OBS setup guide?).

The real-world maximum recommended bitrate for non-partnered casters on Twitch is 2000kbps.

Please don't recommend higher, it will only harm the growth of newer streamers who tend to chase numbers without having learned to cope with the fact that tradeoffs are a necessity in livestreaming. Numbers-chasing is one of the hardest hurdles to get over for many, and incorrect information catering to that tendency will only make it worse.
 
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dsr07mm

Member
Same thing is happening for my friend who is on same provider as you, 2000 or 2500 doesn't matter while I do get solid smooth no buffer stream when I don't have dropped frames. It's probably region thing.

On highlights it's perfectly fine though. Hah.
 
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dsr07mm

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So according to twitch and research if you don't have enough viewers your stream is trash and it's not going to be fluid for ALL viewers. It will be random. Friend from other city at north country same IPS can watch smoothly while friend from same city can't. Same thing for viewer from Finland and UK. You can't do nothing. Good luck.
 
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