Question / Help Max bitrate for non-partnered?

vaesauce said:
You didn't replace the 32bit one with the 64bit did you?

It should be

OBS FOLDER:
32Bit Folder
64Bit Folder

And use the 64bit client. Only of course if you have the 64bit Windows installed.
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Alright I think I've managed to fix it. Idk why windows says it was 32bit (In taskbar) but the log says 64bit. Well, just cross fingers and hope it works.
 
vaesauce said:
Let us know if that fixes your issues, if not, i'll help you look into the matter.
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Using San Antonio, TX with 3000@Faster, I was doing fine for a while but on my last stream 5 minutes in I got dropped. I have now switched to Dallas, TX and will await to see if I get DC'd. I am hoping to increase my bitrate to at least 3200 but I'm not sure if any of the servers are going to let me get higher than 3200 for some reason.
 
Today late at night around the LoL championship, with 3200@Faster I DC'd once early that's about it. Still though, even during these high-end events I shouldn't be DCing at 3200 right?
 
Early today I had a single DC issue. It seems less common but I'm still wondering though as to why I'm DCing from twitch in the first place.
 
I've been streaming to Twitch Amsterdam NL @ 3500bitrates as well as lower numbers like you've mentioned (3400-3200-3000) and I have never been dropped yet.

I'm really curious as to how this thread will evolve, especially the main question. "Max bitrate for non-partnered?" Does anyone know this value? or roughly? I read someone was streaming at 4000bits?

Anyways keep us posted, I'm interested.

Also, a question for you ball2hi, what fps are you streaming at? I noticed you have my bro's CPU, a bit lower rig then my own, and I was simply wondering what you are pulling off like "quality"? 720p30fps@3500?
 
I don't think there's a hard limit to what bitrate Twitch allows you to stream at. I regularly stream at 4000 kbps to the New York server, and I don't get disconnections. I even briefly streamed at 30,000 kbps once. If you're getting outright disconnected on every server, it might be a faulty router or firewall on your end.

I'm curious of the reasoning behind the change to the max bitrate in OBS, though. (It used to be 4000.) Did Twitch ask us to do that? Should I drop it down to 3500 kbps even though I'm having no problems with 4000? It's probably best for new streamers, but this wasn't mentioned in the changelog, so I'm wondering if current streamers should change their settings.
 
Timothy003 said:
I don't think there's a hard limit to what bitrate Twitch allows you to stream at. I regularly stream at 4000 kbps to the New York server, and I don't get disconnections. I even briefly streamed at 30,000 kbps once. If you're getting outright disconnected on every server, it might be a faulty router or firewall on your end.
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This is the strange thing here. I thought about it being my ISP/Router/Firewall/ect. but as soon as I'm disconnected, I can quickly restart my stream no problem. Thankfully, during the event I was streaming, I didn't DC. Although I would like it to stay that way. I'd love to jump up to 3500 but unfortunately my few consistent viewers can't go higher than 3300. So far the Texas server that I've been using hasn't been giving me many DCs and seems to be a once a day thing.

Krxz said:
Also, a question for you ball2hi, what fps are you streaming at? I noticed you have my bro's CPU, a bit lower rig then my own, and I was simply wondering what you are pulling off like "quality"? 720p30fps@3500?
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Uh, it should be in the log I posted. I have a 4770k, CBR 720@60-3200 doing Faster. It looks pretty great, somewhat blurry for my fast-pace FPS games but that's about it. I've been wondering if I should change the Lanczos to bilinear to get a better picture, since I downscale from 1080 to 720 and then downscale the game-capture some more to put a "HUD" around it.
 
DC'd again 5min into a stream, but that's it. Seems to be a once a day thing. Is there anytihng I can do to try and track this and see what the issue might be?
 
Alright so I keep changing servers (Between West and Mid) and still keep DCing. Last night, my stream went offline 4 times in total. Contacted my ISP and they had my modem on device watch and they said they saw nothing wrong on their end (Then again, it's RoadRunner. They're pretty flaky). Anyone got a way I can contact twitch support in order to see if it's an issue from their end with my streamkey(s) or something?
 
Hi there!

I'm not a partnered streamer.
I used 2000-2500 bitrate for my 720p/30fps when i started but people kept saying that it lags for them.

I went to browse the webz and i found out that it's not on streamers nor on the viewers end (usually).

Twitch lack the infrastructure. End of story. They grew too big in a short time. Hope they catch up. :)

This is what worked for me and for my little viewer base:

I use 1700 or 1800 maxbitrate and 30 fps all times with cbr+cfr, keyint=2, audio aac 96 (if you go for quality the result will be a crying viewerbase).

If i play LoL, Dota2, etc i use 720p.
If i play fps games i use 480p.
480p is not that pretty at first glance but it's decent for fps games..

Result: my viewers stopped saying it's lagging etc and the quality is still good enough for a nonpartnered streamer.

And if i ever get partnered (i doubt as i lack time to do so) i still cannot use like 2500-3000 bitrate for 720p because it will lag for the viewers and they would just have to watch the transcoded version of the stream.

Hope this helps.

Cheers!
 
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