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[sam686]

Whats the size of your disk your windows is on?

I might be guessing that "OS type" might need to change maybe? the primary hard disk might not be on UEFI mode if the size of partition is 2 TB or less.

I don't know everything about UEFI or Legacy though as im not sure.

Edit: I am not sure of anymore of how to fix boot orders without seeing it myself maybe. If you can get to windows anyway, does it work ok?

Edit 2: i may have to go and won't be back until tomorrow or later

 

[Vexion]

Whats the size of your disk your windows is on?

I might be guessing that "OS type" might need to change maybe? the primary hard disk might not be on UEFI mode if the size of partition is 2 TB or less.

I don't know everything about UEFI or Legacy though as im not sure.

It is 3 TB but for some reason when i put windows it split the memory up so its only 2 TB and the other TB is just there not used yet.

EDIT: So If i enter BIOS and just click exit without saving. The computer boots perfectly fine. But the problem is the computer only goes into BIOS when i hold down the MEM ok button

 

[Vexion]

Whats the size of your disk your windows is on?

I might be guessing that "OS type" might need to change maybe? the primary hard disk might not be on UEFI mode if the size of partition is 2 TB or less.

I don't know everything about UEFI or Legacy though as im not sure.

Edit: I am not sure of anymore of how to fix boot orders without seeing it myself maybe. If you can get to windows anyway, does it work ok?

Edit 2: i may have to go and won't be back until tomorrow or later

No problem! Ty for everything so far.

 

[dping]

No problem! Ty for everything so far.

Based on what you're saying, your windows 10 is running an MBR (legacy) and not GPT (UEFI). the reason I say this is because your drive is partitioned at 2.2TB which is the largest partition for MBR which means you're probably running lagacy. having windows set the system to GPT will allow UEFI to work but I don't really feel comfortable with guiding you through that so instead, it would be best if you ran legacy and picked your boot drive.
notice that UEFI is still somewhat new and there might be tweaks to get it to work as stated above. I can't recall if secure bios needs to be disabled with windows 10 or not. I remember hearing something in the insider preview about that, but that could have been a work-around since windows was in a beta state at the time.

I think you're going to have to tweak with the boot order until it works. just because your DVD drive is being detected as UEFI doesn't mean that your hard drive is UEFI, above points to otherwise.

In the end, legacy or UEFI, just get back to booting. once you get that working there should be a place in your bios to save presets if your bios and ofcourse dont forget to save the whole thing.

Next manually set your RAM to the timings and MHz on your RAM

• DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900)you could even try 1600 if you like)
  
• Timing 10-11-10-30 (CL, TRCD, TRP, and TRAS) you might also have command rate (might be N1 or N2)
• vRAM 1.5v

 

[sam686]

MemOK will not boot into windows, use a power button that should be plugged into motherboard's power header.
Pressing DEL repeatedly as computer is turning on can also go to Motherboard bios without booting.

DDR3-1866 may be overclocking (O.C.) the CPU's memory controller, not sure about stability. Slower speeds should be OK for CPU. Different speed may have different timings specific to RAM sticks, shown in CPU-Z SPD information, and maybe in Asus memory information.

Is TPU off? This should help with stability.
Does windows run at better speed now without throttling?

 

[Vexion]

Based on what you're saying, your windows 10 is running an MBR (legacy) and not GPT (UEFI). the reason I say this is because your drive is partitioned at 2.2TB which is the largest partition for MBR which means you're probably running lagacy. having windows set the system to GPT will allow UEFI to work but I don't really feel comfortable with guiding you through that so instead, it would be best if you ran legacy and picked your boot drive.
notice that UEFI is still somewhat new and there might be tweaks to get it to work as stated above. I can't recall if secure bios needs to be disabled with windows 10 or not. I remember hearing something in the insider preview about that, but that could have been a work-around since windows was in a beta state at the time.

I think you're going to have to tweak with the boot order until it works. just because your DVD drive is being detected as UEFI doesn't mean that your hard drive is UEFI, above points to otherwise.

In the end, legacy or UEFI, just get back to booting. once you get that working there should be a place in your bios to save presets if your bios and ofcourse dont forget to save the whole thing.

Next manually set your RAM to the timings and MHz on your RAM

• DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900)you could even try 1600 if you like)
  
• Timing 10-11-10-30 (CL, TRCD, TRP, and TRAS) you might also have command rate (might be N1 or N2)
• vRAM 1.5v

So this is a memory issue. now I turned on my computer today and it actually booted up into the bios screen but a message appeared saying. Over clocking failed. I tried what you told me to put as 1866 mhz with a speed of 10-11-10-30 and that didn't seem to work.

 

[Vexion]

MemOK will not boot into windows, use a power button that should be plugged into motherboard's power header.
Pressing DEL repeatedly as computer is turning on can also go to Motherboard bios without booting.

DDR3-1866 may be overclocking (O.C.) the CPU's memory controller, not sure about stability. Slower speeds should be OK for CPU. Different speed may have different timings specific to RAM sticks, shown in CPU-Z SPD information, and maybe in Asus memory information.

Is TPU off? This should help with stability.
Does windows run at better speed now without throttling?

Everything seems to run fine when i go into windows when i boot the way i was booting yesterday. But im just trying to solve the memory problem now. Saying that my memory is over clocking. And yes the TPU is now off.

 

[dping]

Everything seems to run fine when i go into windows when i boot the way i was booting yesterday. But im just trying to solve the memory problem now. Saying that my memory is over clocking. And yes the TPU is now off.

Then just set it to 1600MHz everything else on auto. That being said, I would not spend to much time on it. memory timings are minimally different in performance unless you are doing tons of memory intensive things like video editing and even at that, marginally different.

My bad, I didn't realize that 1866 would be OC for your motherboard. I mean, that hasn't changed since x58 then. Weird.

 

[Vexion]

Then just set it to 1600MHz everything else on auto. That being said, I would not spend to much time on it. memory timings are minimally different in performance unless you are doing tons of memory intensive things like video editing and even at that, marginally different.

My bad, I didn't realize that 1866 would be OC for your motherboard. I mean, that hasn't changed since x58 then. Weird.

I tried setting it 1600 mhz and everything too auto didn't work. Even 1333 mhz. I even tried putting the mhz in auto and that didn't work. I made sure i put back the memory timings back to auto.

EDIT: Does this have to do anything with the XMP? i see in my motherboard settings that the XMP is disabled. There is two profiles 1 and 2 no entirely sure if that would make a difference. Never really touched them before

EDIT2: Or maybe i have to update my bios?

 

[dping]

I tried setting it 1600 mhz and everything too auto didn't work. Even 1333 mhz. I even tried putting the mhz in auto and that didn't work. I made sure i put back the memory timings back to auto.

EDIT: Does this have to do anything with the XMP? i see in my motherboard settings that the XMP is disabled. There is two profiles 1 and 2 no entirely sure if that would make a difference. Never really touched them before

EDIT2: Or maybe i have to update my bios?

XMP is going to attempt to set your RAM at 1833 and adjust other settings to get there. This might or might work so give it a try and see what comes out of it. This is what I originally recommended. not also note your other settings like vcore and base frequency and make sure they do not change. base should still be 100 (auto?) and hopefully vcore on auto will read normal as well. That being said, I do not like auto or xmp as I prefer to set everything as I see fit, but that will take you doing research on your motherboard's limitations as well as the 4790K (pretty popular so this shouldn't be an issue)

All that being said just find something stable even if its xmp but varify nothing else has changed. Maybe take a picture of each screen with your phone as a backup.

bios update, check the changelogs but there is a bios update to bring more stability to the K series on some mobos I just dont know for sure if your has that or not. those microcode changes are optional for mobo manufacturers.

 

[sam686]

Maybe remove all RAM except a single memory sticks, a faulty RAM or loose connection might be possible.
If it then works, try to figure out which one is faulty, or the RAM might have been loose and not in all the way.

A bios update which may have some stabiliity update that might help, and then CMOS/setting reset may do the trick maybe.

 

[Vexion]

XMP is going to attempt to set your RAM at 1833 and adjust other settings to get there. This might or might work so give it a try and see what comes out of it. This is what I originally recommended. not also note your other settings like vcore and base frequency and make sure they do not change. base should still be 100 (auto?) and hopefully vcore on auto will read normal as well. That being said, I do not like auto or xmp as I prefer to set everything as I see fit, but that will take you doing research on your motherboard's limitations as well as the 4790K (pretty popular so this shouldn't be an issue)

All that being said just find something stable even if its xmp but varify nothing else has changed. Maybe take a picture of each screen with your phone as a backup.

bios update, check the changelogs but there is a bios update to bring more stability to the K series on some mobos I just dont know for sure if your has that or not. those microcode changes are optional for mobo manufacturers.

Maybe remove all RAM except a single memory sticks, a faulty RAM or loose connection might be possible.
If it then works, try to figure out which one is faulty, or the RAM might have been loose and not in all the way.

A bios update which may have some stabiliity update that might help, and then CMOS/setting reset may do the trick maybe.

Okay i will try doing this once i get back from school. I am how ever going to buy new RAM sticks from Best Buy to see if this does the trick. I have a feeling that the ram i have installed in are not working properly because its not supported and all the voltages are changed now to its default setting. I believe the reason why it was working before was because all the settings were changing in order for the RAM stick to work properly. Im not 100% about this but i am going to buy a new pair of sticks today before i go home. I am how ever confused i did check my motherboard manual and they said they support

• CMY16GX3M2A1600C9.

When i checked the bestbuy website they had the same exact letters and numbers and everything but at the end it had a B. Only reason i can think of why it had a b was because the ram sticks were blue. They have a bunch of different colors of these ram sticks. I did check the mhz and the speeds they are the same. I am guessing it is safe to buy these sticks?

 

[dping]

Okay i will try doing this once i get back from school. I am how ever going to buy new RAM sticks from Best Buy to see if this does the trick. I have a feeling that the ram i have installed in are not working properly because its not supported and all the voltages are changed now to its default setting. I believe the reason why it was working before was because all the settings were changing in order for the RAM stick to work properly. Im not 100% about this but i am going to buy a new pair of sticks today before i go home. I am how ever confused i did check my motherboard manual and they said they support

• CMY16GX3M2A1600C9.

When i checked the bestbuy website they had the same exact letters and numbers and everything but at the end it had a B. Only reason i can think of why it had a b was because the ram sticks were blue. They have a bunch of different colors of these ram sticks. I did check the mhz and the speeds they are the same. I am guessing it is safe to buy these sticks?

I wouldn't buy them expecting all 4 to work together but they might. did you test 1 stick at a time? you can't throw money at a PC when it has an issue unless you've isolated the issue. this is where you read all over the web and learn about your parts and figure out what you could try. for instance, if you get a blue screen error what is the error code is spits out?

Anyway, I think you might need to do some research first, but if you chose to buy that ram its about the same peformance as your last ram just dont have to use OC mode, which should be fine 1600MHz CL9 is about the same as 1833 CL10

 

[Vexion]

I wouldn't buy them expecting all 4 to work together but they might. did you test 1 stick at a time? you can't throw money at a PC when it has an issue unless you've isolated the issue. this is where you read all over the web and learn about your parts and figure out what you could try. for instance, if you get a blue screen error what is the error code is spits out?

Anyway, I think you might need to do some research first, but if you chose to buy that ram its about the same peformance as your last ram just dont have to use OC mode, which should be fine 1600MHz CL9 is about the same as 1833 CL10

Oh i wasn't going to put them all four together i was i going to take my two sticks of 8 gb out and swap them out with the new ones. Only reason i was going to do this is because i have a project due at 11:59 by today and it was a last solution. But with my luck they had nothing at best buy lol.. Either way i will test the one stick at a time. And i was reading on the internet. I was spending all night and this morning reading why this is happening to my computer. And all i can find is that my RAM is not running how its suppose to be. I just don't get it. I hold down the Mem ok and the pc restarts. The bios comes up and says. MEM is okay please save memory in the bios. I try clicking save and exit and my computer just restarts and goes to a black screen if i click escape and continue without saving it boots up to windows. But if turn off my pc and try to turn it back on, its just a black screen and i have to repeat the whole process again. Im thinking of just bringing my computer to a shop tomorrow or something. Because this is way too much for you guys. You guys shouldn't really be helping me with this type of stuff. I really do appreciate everything you and Sam686 are doing for me. It means a lot. But i don't want to take anymore of your guys time. Problem is i know for a fact if i take it the shop they are going to change some settings and my CPU is going to be how it was before and we are going to be back to square 1.

 

[dping]

Oh i wasn't going to put them all four together i was i going to take my two sticks of 8 gb out and swap them out with the new ones. Only reason i was going to do this is because i have a project due at 11:59 by today and it was a last solution. But with my luck they had nothing at best buy lol.. Either way i will test the one stick at a time. And i was reading on the internet. I was spending all night and this morning reading why this is happening to my computer. And all i can find is that my RAM is not running how its suppose to be. I just don't get it. I hold down the Mem ok and the pc restarts. The bios comes up and says. MEM is okay please save memory in the bios. I try clicking save and exit and my computer just restarts and goes to a black screen if i click escape and continue without saving it boots up to windows. But if turn off my pc and try to turn it back on, its just a black screen and i have to repeat the whole process again. Im thinking of just bringing my computer to a shop tomorrow or something. Because this is way too much for you guys. You guys shouldn't really be helping me with this type of stuff. I really do appreciate everything you and Sam686 are doing for me. It means a lot. But i don't want to take anymore of your guys time. Problem is i know for a fact if i take it the shop they are going to change some settings and my CPU is going to be how it was before and we are going to be back to square 1.

did you try changing to legacy? I dont think your hard drive is built with UEFI.

 

[Vexion]

did you try changing to legacy? I dont think your hard drive is built with UEFI.

Yup i did try it. The pc runs it through UEFI first and if that doesnt work it goes through legacy afterwards from what i am reading from my bios.

EDIT: I am currently on my computer i am going to continue to use it until i get a BSOD to see what type of error code i receive. Everything seems to be running fine at the moment. Here is a picture of CPU Z of my memory. I will try to flash my BIOS when i am done with my project and ill keep you updated on what happens.

http://imgur.com/jPXs238
http://imgur.com/IIGMc5K

 

[dping]

Yup i did try it. The pc runs it through UEFI first and if that doesnt work it goes through legacy afterwards from what i am reading from my bios.

EDIT: I am currently on my computer i am going to continue to use it until i get a BSOD to see what type of error code i receive. Everything seems to be running fine at the moment. Here is a picture of CPU Z of my memory. I will try to flash my BIOS when i am done with my project and ill keep you updated on what happens.

http://imgur.com/jPXs238
http://imgur.com/IIGMc5K

stability is most important

 

[Vexion]

stability is most important

So found out my motherboard is faulty and my hard drive as well. Will be fixing this problem soon. Quick question since i have to re install my liquid cooling you told me not to use any type of silver thermal paste. But i did research and people say that Arctic Silver 5 is one of the best thermal paste on the market. I don't want to damage my CPU now for buying a bad thermal paste.

 

[dping]

So found out my motherboard is faulty and my hard drive as well. Will be fixing this problem soon. Quick question since i have to re install my liquid cooling you told me not to use any type of silver thermal paste. But i did research and people say that Arctic Silver 5 is one of the best thermal paste on the market. I don't want to damage my CPU now for buying a bad thermal paste.

just dont spill it you'll be fine. all those articles are showing AS5 as the best are like 8-10 years old and people just repeating what they hear.