Question / Help Having trouble streaming

[sam686]

If using push pins heatsink from intel's heatsink, be sure they are all pressed down all the way to make sure the heatsink are actually touching the CPU.

Resetting motherboard settings to defaults are always ok as it can go to motherboard settings again if needed, do take some notes on what settings are getting changed when resetting to defaults. Default settings could sometimes make windows fails to start, so going back to motherboard settings to change between AHCI/Raid/Legacy, or boot order, or UEFI option, may get windows to start again. Some settings like CPU voltage and speed changed from default may have a possible cause of the slowdown problem.

 

[Vexion]

Heat. you need to completely deal with that issue. so either your cooler (or fan) is crap or maybe there was a bubble on the IHS where you put the thermal paste.

EDIT: I will also mention to make sure you properly clean the surface of all other pastes and do not reuse any older paste. I use rubbing alcohol and ear swabs then reapply a thin layer on the CPU's IHS with an old credit card. then I place an extremely thin line on the heat sink and press down evenly from the center out. and as sam said below, make sure if using stock fan to unlock and pull out all 4 prongs then turn clockwise prior to putting the headsink on. then align the IHS as stated above and find the mounting holes for the 4 posts. After you find them, click the 4 posts in with an X pattern then pull up on posts to ensure proper locking. you should hear a click each time.

Sorry for taking such a long time. Haven't had much time because of school. I did upgrade to a liquid cooler. My temps are now at a 33 C Idle and a 55 C during a stress test. I will post up logs soon. Oh and my CPU frequency did change back up to 4.0 now when i made the change to a liquid cooler.

 

[dping]

Sorry for taking such a long time. Haven't had much time because of school. I did upgrade to a liquid cooler. My temps are now at a 33 C Idle and a 55 C during a stress test. I will post up logs soon. Oh and my CPU frequency did change back up to 4.0 now when i made the change to a liquid cooler.

I figured as much, glad we got it figured out.

 

[Vexion]

I figured as much, glad we got it figured out.

Before i begin streaming again and to test the fps problem. I did notice my CPU did something funny today. My idle temps were 33 C and 55 C during a stress test yesterday. These temps have totally changed now. My cpu temp now goes all the way up to 71 C which isn't too bad. But i did notice now that my CPU frequency did go back down to 3.6 and my core multiplier went back down to x36 (which were my old settings before i installed the liquid cooler). When i turned on my computer today in the morning it did not want to turn on. It had to boot up two times i was not sure why. I believe that my motherboard was changing the settings of my CPU so it can boot up properly. I did notice that my Vcore for my CPU was at 1.392 which seems high to me. Im no computer expert but i believe that my computer changed the settings during the second boot up in order for it to boot up properly. I believe this is leading to the problem why my temps are getting hotter. Any clue what to do? I did try changing the multiplier back to x40 but then i got a BSOD after booting up for 5 mins. Had to push it back down to x36 to work properly.

 

[dping]

Before i begin streaming again and to test the fps problem. I did notice my CPU did something funny today. My idle temps were 33 C and 55 C during a stress test yesterday. These temps have totally changed now. My cpu temp now goes all the way up to 71 C which isn't too bad. But i did notice now that my CPU frequency did go back down to 3.6 and my core multiplier went back down to x36 (which were my old settings before i installed the liquid cooler). When i turned on my computer today in the morning it did not want to turn on. It had to boot up two times i was not sure why. I believe that my motherboard was changing the settings of my CPU so it can boot up properly. I did notice that my Vcore for my CPU was at 1.392 which seems high to me. Im no computer expert but i believe that my computer changed the settings during the second boot up in order for it to boot up properly. I believe this is leading to the problem why my temps are getting hotter. Any clue what to do? I did try changing the multiplier back to x40 but then i got a BSOD after booting up for 5 mins. Had to push it back down to x36 to work properly.

Yeah 1.392 seems very high actually. 1.3 should be about the max you would want, and that would include overclocking. I'd reset your bios settings then start from there.

I would also remount your CPU and make sure you didn't get paste where it doesn't belong. I hope you didn't use a silver based thermal paste. those can be dangerous if mis-applied. I say that because ceramic based thermal paste is at the levels where AS5 used to be.

 

[Vexion]

Yeah 1.392 seems very high actually. 1.3 should be about the max you would want, and that would include overclocking. I'd reset your bios settings then start from there.

I would also remount your CPU and make sure you didn't get paste where it doesn't belong. I hope you didn't use a silver based thermal paste. those can be dangerous if mis-applied. I say that because ceramic based thermal paste is at the levels where AS5 used to be.

I am currently not overclocking at all I just want my CPU to be at stock speed and to run at 4.0 at max. Before i installed the liquid cooler i took the CPU out to clean it out properly. I made sure everything was nice and clean. And for the thermal paste it was pre applied already. The cooler that i got was a Corsair H100i V2. I read on the internet that the pre applied thermal paste should be fine. So, reset bios settings to default and then what set my core multiplier to x40? Around what voltage should my vcore be?

EDIT: Just making sure about resetting bios settings because last time i tried it was changing a bunch of settings i had no idea what they were. Didn't want to screw anything up.

 

[dping]

I am currently not overclocking at all I just want my CPU to be at stock speed and to run at 4.0 at max. Before i installed the liquid cooler i took the CPU out to clean it out properly. I made sure everything was nice and clean. And for the thermal paste it was pre applied already. The cooler that i got was a Corsair H100i V2. I read on the internet that the pre applied thermal paste should be fine. So, reset bios settings to default and then what set my core multiplier to x40? Around what voltage should my vcore be?

EDIT: Just making sure about resetting bios settings because last time i tried it was changing a bunch of settings i had no idea what they were. Didn't want to screw anything up.

well stock should be decent if you dont know what you are doing tbh high at stock would be 1.19-1.27v is the range depending on the binning. Anyway, you should read your bios manual and just set up your xmp memory profile and set the multiplier. past that, try and keep your voltage around 1.25 and see if it keeps when manually setting. Its high but just not insanely high

 

[Vexion]

well stock should be decent if you dont know what you are doing tbh high at stock would be 1.19-1.27v is the range depending on the binning. Anyway, you should read your bios manual and just set up your xmp memory profile and set the multiplier. past that, try and keep your voltage around 1.25 and see if it keeps when manually setting. Its high but just not insanely high

Hm. Was just reading my motherboard manual. And i was looking at the capability for the RAM sticks. It looks like the RAM that i have in my case is not compatible with my motherboard but it still reads it for some reason. Do you believe this is linked to the cause of my problem? Bringing this up because you brought up XMP memory and from my knowledge that has to do with the RAM timings. My RAM is not going to its full potential as well maybe because my motherboard does not support it? Would of thought if the motherboard won't support it, the computer won't turn on at all.

 

[dping]

Hm. Was just reading my motherboard manual. And i was looking at the capability for the RAM sticks. It looks like the RAM that i have in my case is not compatible with my motherboard but it still reads it for some reason. Do you believe this is linked to the cause of my problem? Bringing this up because you brought up XMP memory and from my knowledge that has to do with the RAM timings. My RAM is not going to its full potential as well maybe because my motherboard does not support it? Would of thought if the motherboard won't support it, the computer won't turn on at all.

link me your RAM. you're lucky, I dont normally go this in debth. :D

 

[Vexion]

link me your RAM. you're lucky, I dont normally go this in debth. :D

These are my RAM sticks http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...8&cm_re=G_SKILL_RIPJAW-_-20-231-528-_-Product
And thank you so much you don't understand I've been having problems with my computer for almost a year and a half. One after another somethings happens but this is finally one of the last things for sure. First it was a power supply issue fixed that and overheating issue and now this problem with the wrong volts and RAM. My motherboard is an Asus Z97 AR as well.

And here is a picture of my settings from an Application from Intel called XTU: http://imgur.com/sQfIbs1 haven't changed anything at all. You can just tell all of that is not right. The multiplier shows that some are at x44 but in bios they are all in x36

 

[sam686]

If your motherbaord is Z97 AR..
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z97AR/HelpDesk_Manual/ and get a User Manual (English) (PDF)
One advantage of digital PDF is a find (ctrl+F) feature, which allows easier lookup on what a specific option do.

RAM sticks have some backwards compatibility. My PC with i7-2600 is using DDR3-1600 at slower speed DDR3-1333 due to CPU limits. Works fine for over a year.

i7-4790K does support up to DDR3-1600 when looking at specs. The motherboard uses a maximum default based on CPU and RAM limits.

Wrong voltage is not a motherboard's default setting. Resetting motherboard settings is ok.
After reset to default, to use QuickSync Encoder, enable option in: System Agent Configuration, CPU Graphics Multi-Monitor.

EDIT: and don't set CPU multiplier if not overclocking, keep it as default

 

[Vexion]

If your motherbaord is Z97 AR..
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z97AR/HelpDesk_Manual/ and get a User Manual (English) (PDF)
One advantage of digital PDF is a find (ctrl+F) feature, which allows easier lookup on what a specific option do.

RAM sticks have some backwards compatibility. My PC with i7-2600 is using DDR3-1600 at slower speed DDR3-1333 due to CPU limits. Works fine for over a year.

i7-4790K does support up to DDR3-1600 when looking at specs. The motherboard uses a maximum default based on CPU and RAM limits.

Wrong voltage is not a motherboard's default setting. Resetting motherboard settings is ok.
After reset to default, to use QuickSync Encoder, enable option in: System Agent Configuration, CPU Graphics Multi-Monitor.

EDIT: and don't set CPU multiplier if not overclocking, keep it as default

Hm, okay i see. So you are saying my RAM is perfectly fine then and i don't have to change the speeds of it at all? And the last thing is if i leave the CPU multiplier at x36 my max frequency is 3.60 for some reason not 4.0. Is it better to reset CMOS or just click reset BIOS settings to default? Because i have reset my CMOS before which pretty much resets all motherboards settings back to default as well. This was a while ago when i was having trouble with my power supply and it shutting off constantly. I do remember as well when i first built my rig my friend told me to put my TPU on TPU 1 which isn't the default settings. TPU 1 Is CPU Ratio boost. Should i put this back to disable? Not sure if this might be tied into it as well.

 

[sam686]

Either way will reset all settings, reset BOS in motherboard settings may keep date/time which is ok, compared to reset CMOS.

keep TPU at whatever is the default (probably disabled).

Keep the RAM speed at the default (probably DDR3-1600 mode due to CPU limits)

 

[Vexion]

Either way will reset all settings, reset BOS in motherboard settings may keep date/time which is ok, compared to reset CMOS.

keep TPU at whatever is the default (probably disabled).

Keep the RAM speed at the default (probably DDR3-1600 mode due to CPU limits)

Yes TPU default is disabled. Just last time i tried disabling it my computer was running super slow. I will try to attempt this tomorrow morning. And my RAM speed is at 1333. Even tho i have 1866. I will let you know how things work!

 

[Vexion]

Either way will reset all settings, reset BOS in motherboard settings may keep date/time which is ok, compared to reset CMOS.

keep TPU at whatever is the default (probably disabled).

Keep the RAM speed at the default (probably DDR3-1600 mode due to CPU limits)

I notice my EPU switch is on as well which isn't the default settings. Is it safe to turn it off?

 

[dping]

is your base clock set to 125MHz? I could swear the base clock needs to stay at 100MHz for most overclocking. with a base of 125MHz and a x40 you speeds would be 5GHz and turnbo at 5.5GHz. that isn't right.

 

[Vexion]

is your base clock set to 125MHz? I could swear the base clock needs to stay at 100MHz for most overclocking. with a base of 125MHz and a x40 you speeds would be 5GHz and turnbo at 5.5GHz. that isn't right.

I don't even think i am over clocking my system. What i think it was when my friend told me to turn on TPU 1 it set my settings all different. I am changing everything back to default as we speak

 

[dping]

I don't even think i am over clocking my system. What i think it was when my friend told me to turn on TPU 1 it set my settings all different. I am changing everything back to default as we speak

you should just reset bios but as long as you're learning I guess :D

 

[Vexion]

you should just reset bios but as long as you're learning I guess :D

Hm i tried turning off the switch and my computer turns on but my keyboard does not turn on or my mouse. Nothing loads up. Maybe i have to reset all settings in bios first?

 

[sam686]

Reset all settings in bios first, either CMOS reset or reset everything, all of it. This should also reset TPU to disabled i think

Edit: If you use "Restore defaults" or similar in motherboard settings, you might also have to save.