Question / Help Game Capture Twice for Recording and Streaming

Gaming Since the 80s said:
Thanks for chiming in TimeRocker, but I have tried this, you'll still get high cpu usage and with window capture for streaming, everything will look grainy since you're trying to capture a smaller window, compared to recording directly. I'd rather give my viewers a better more high definition view. We're already streaming in low bitrate.

I've come to the conclusion, some software and hardware just doesn't work well with OBS.

Update: Recently I disabled Anti-virus(if that will make a difference) and disabled the hooks for AMD gaming evolve, and actually played for 45 minutes yesterday recording and streaming, no crash. Some suggested hooks are why gaming evolve crashes with CS:GO, so maybe that's it. I was still streaming in OBS... : )

So this may be a good setup for me, record with AMD gaming evolve and stream with OBS.... We'll see today as I will be streaming, cross your fingers....

I'm going to try disabling all the programs in the background and try running two OBS again....

Again thanks for chiming in TimeRocker and dping. My small pea brain is learning...

I'm mostly a webmaster, haven't done gaming on the PC in like a decade, lol
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gaming evolved aka raptr might be one of the reasons for the crash. raptr attempts to overtake full screen games even thought you might/might not tell it to. raptr also have a lot of overhead.

Did you ever set your GPU clock back to 850? that was my mistake for thinking your GPU was stock at 950...

other programs that can cause issues: Overwolf, Razer Synapse and Comms, Teamspeak overlay, mumble's in-game overlay (mine runs fine), FRAPS, D3DGear, MSI Afterburner, and Action!
 
Gaming Since the 80s said:
I never had gaming evolved installed before when doing the testing with two OBS. So that wasn't it.

Yeah Raptr aint the smoothest, in 60fps it looks better on YouTube, but it aint the smoothest.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEUx5moX_WU

It could be because I'm streaming and recording at the same time, but Raptr is in beta...

I may just need to upgrade my card...
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IF you stick with AMD, there are three generations of VCE, VCE 1.0 is what you and I have, thats the HD 7XXX and R9 270/280 series cards. VCE 2.0 is on the R9 260 and R9 290 series and VCE 3.0 is only on the R9 285 and the soon to be released R9 3xx series.

The R9 285 will run a little faster than your 7870 but is able to encode at 4k resolutions (at least that what the reviews say) which means 1080@60 is no problem.
If you are planning to upgrade and stick with AMD then I would either get a R9 290x or wait until the 3000 series is out.


If you are planning on an nVidia, a 970 or higher would be an upgrade. and they will all encode at 1080@60 from what i have heard and seen Anyway, that was way off topic but I figured it was relevant.
 
No dude it's totally relevant, I was kind of looking two upgrade, since I can just put this graphics card back on my old computer. I bought this card like a 1 1/2 ago, it's amazing how fast technology improves...

Thanks for the tip
 
Gaming Since the 80s said:
Is it even worth it to upgrade to the GeForce GTX 980, compared to the nVidia a970? Since it's the top dog?

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Price wise, holy shit Batman!

What would you recommend? AMD or Nvidia,

"nVidia cards underclock when using shadowplay" So that's not good? Again, just learning about GPUs...
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They do it for stability so, its meh, good. AMD's dont tend to do that but it can be manually underclocked or just hard set to the stock clocks which should also be fine, which is why I asked you for the third time, did you reset your manual GPU clock to 850?

based on price points, nvidia has the performance lead at the moment but you'll pay for it with the price. AMD has the price point you the power usage is a little heavier (done believe the exaturations but they do use up more power per clock)
 
I reset it back to 850....

Hey, dping I have a question, what if I buy another GPU, same version and install it. Will that add more power for OBS VCE or would you just wait and buy a new GPU all together..? Let me know, because that's what a friend suggested... I might talk to my other friend who knows PCs and see what he suggests...
 
Gaming Since the 80s said:
I reset it back to 850....

Hey, dping I have a question, what if I buy another GPU, same version and install it. Will that add more power for OBS VCE or would you just wait and buy a new GPU all together..? Let me know, because that's what a friend suggested... I might talk to my other friend who knows PCs and see what he suggests...
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If I were you, at a minimum, I would get a r9 285 since thats a VCE 3.0 card out at the moment or wait for a R9 300 series card to your price liking. The reason why I say this is because DX12 (Win10) will work best with newer cards. If you get another 7870 you will be kind of waisting money even with crossfire imo. might as well jsut get one single powerful card so its future proof. the 285 preforms like around a 280 but with much faster VCE performance.
 
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