Question / Help Dropping frames ingame.

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Chillyzzz

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Hi!

I am dropping alot of frames ingame even what settings i used i tried the nvidia encoder and everythink. But i still seem to drop alot. I drop alot of frames, almost or pretty much 50%

Pc:
Motherboard: GA-F2A85XM
Ram: Kingston HyperX H2O 8GB
Processor: AMD A8 6600K
Graphics: Gigabyte GeForce GTX660 OC

Log:

https://gist.github.com/348813d65a89ffc859a7
 
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Ranmza

Member
Your CPU isn't quite good to stream, say the log analyzer:

Weak CPU

You appear to be using an AMD APU. This is a very weak CPU which will likely not be able to stream at an acceptable quality without significant resolution downscaling or low FPS.
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Jack0r

Jack0r

The Helping Squad
Well, the APU processors by AMD are not the best, and the nvenc is more meant for recording or network streaming, not so much for internet streaming. But it should actually not drop frames if you are using the nvenc.

Just to make sure you mean your fps in the game "drop" right? Not framedrops noted at the bottom of OBS?
In the case of dropped frames noted on the bottom of OBS, I would recommend to try a different twitch server, see if you still get them. Oh and do a speedtest, to make sure you can stream at a bitrate of 2500.
 
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Chillyzzz

New Member
Jack0r said:
Well, the APU processors by AMD are not the best, and the nvenc is more meant for recording or network streaming, not so much for internet streaming. But it should actually not drop frames if you are using the nvenc.

Just to make sure you mean your fps in the game "drop" right? Not framedrops noted at the bottom of OBS?
In the case of dropped frames noted on the bottom of OBS, I would recommend to try a different twitch server, see if you still get them. Oh and do a speedtest, to make sure you can stream at a bitrate of 2500.
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Ohh yea, i dont get any drops in Obs at all, I got 100 up and 100 down so it shouldent really be a problem. But i was looking for new processors that is not a apu if that is the main reason.. could it be that the nvidia codec uses my apu graphics instead of my graphics card? I usally stream dayz or battlefield 4 and on dayz i have the lowest possible settings with 480p and 25fps on the stream and still get alot of stutter and low frames ingame..
 
Jack0r

Jack0r

The Helping Squad
Hmm as long as nvenc is selected only your nvidia gpu is used by obs. So I am not really sure why you drop frames in that case. I will link this thread to Jim to take a look if he has an idea.
 
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Chillyzzz

New Member
Also, would a AMD FX 8120 be better for streaming.. I was thinking i want atleast like 720p and 30fps in my streams, but mostly a stable fps ingame would be best... Or the cheapest possible cpu for streaming, that would be a big step up from my current cpu, when streaming?
 
Jack0r

Jack0r

The Helping Squad
You will probably have to get a new board for this change right? Going from FM2 socket to AM3+.

Looking at benchmarks values going from your A8 to the FX 8120 would give you a boost from 4500 to 6500 points. If you can get an FX-8350 you could even get up to the i7 range of 9000 points.

Now these are not real world values, they try to incorporate different tests into a single number, but you can normally use these values as good guidelines. Between 4000-6000 points is at least needed for 720p streaming in a one PC setup. So you would again be nearing your limits with the FX 8120, assuming the games you play also use a lot of cpu power.
The 8350 should give you a bit more headroom and costs roughly 20-30€ more. IF you have to get a new board anyway, I would personally think about going the intel way. To my experience AMD users are more often limited by their CPUs compared to the current gen Intel users.
In the end its always a question of working with what you have and tweaking that to perfection :)
 
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Chillyzzz

New Member
Yea i know, i would definetly buy a intel if i had the money.. And there is a great deal right now with the motherboard and Fx8120 for 120$ But for now it will do i hope. Thanks for the help! :)
 
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NewKID

New Member
Boildown said:
They're both important. Its hard to say beyond the 4/8 core CPUs because no one has done that kind of testing yet. But an 8320 will be significantly faster than an i5 for OBS. If you're running OBS and your game on the same PC, then it depends on your game too, as most games love clockspeed and are poorly multithreaded. The i7s are the best in both departments, and the Haswell CPUs in general have a very good Quicksync option that can trump other concerns depending on what you want to do.
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https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/cpu-usage.12868/#post-71346
this was posted in a thread i made. consider the 8320 or 8350 (same cpu just higher clock speed). cheaper and more effective for OBS
i use an i5 2500k and its a beast
 
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