Question / Help Dropped frames (source - my internet or twitch servers ?)

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dsr07mm

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Can this be somehow for the sake of my nerves confirmed ?

https://gist.github.com/6a1e663ef31240bc0b8ea56298f7fe8f

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I always get atleast this small amount of drops.. In every other test my internet connection is stable, tested different cables, different PC's since I have 2 high-end pc's in my house.. Getting on my nerves :(
 
FerretBomb

FerretBomb

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Have you tested with the TeamLiquid Twitch Bandwidth Tester? Speedtest.net and most other bandwidth checking sites are useless as they don't test for minimum constant throughput, but go for averaged peak overall including raised-max shaping compensation. Speedtest even throws away the worst 30% of returns, which are the most important for streaming purposes as they are what will cause dropped frames if they are below your set bitrate.

From the logfile it appears to be your connection to the ingests having the issue, and not a viewer-side video delivery server issue. Whether it's your ISP, an interstitial point on the routing chain, or the ingest server is uncertain. But the repeated 'stalled for X to write Y bytes' indicates your connection may be at-fault.

That said, Twitch has been having ingest problems all week. Run the TBT and post a screenshot of the results here, it will be more suggestive on if it is the ingest you're using, or your connection in general. If the drops are occasional and minor/regular/scattered, it would lean toward your connection/route being the problem. If it dumps out for an extended period, then stops again, going in large chunky bursts, the ingest could be suspect.
 
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dsr07mm

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FerretBomb said:
Have you tested with the TeamLiquid Twitch Bandwidth Tester? Speedtest.net and most other bandwidth checking sites are useless as they don't test for minimum constant throughput, but go for averaged peak overall including raised-max shaping compensation. Speedtest even throws away the worst 30% of returns, which are the most important for streaming purposes as they are what will cause dropped frames if they are below your set bitrate.

From the logfile it appears to be your connection to the ingests having the issue, and not a viewer-side video delivery server issue. Whether it's your ISP, an interstitial point on the routing chain, or the ingest server is uncertain. But the repeated 'stalled for X to write Y bytes' indicates your connection may be at-fault.

That said, Twitch has been having ingest problems all week. Run the TBT and post a screenshot of the results here, it will be more suggestive on if it is the ingest you're using, or your connection in general. If the drops are occasional and minor/regular/scattered, it would lean toward your connection/route being the problem. If it dumps out for an extended period, then stops again, going in large chunky bursts, the ingest could be suspect.
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Ofc I did, it's 4900 on all servers, ping 35-45. I tried Xsplit aswel but same dropped frames happens. On the other hand streaming on hitbox or youtube looks solid, less drops atleast.
 
Soshiim_theGamer

Soshiim_theGamer

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Well, I might have this same problem but it all goes down to your internet speeds which is mostly a megabit NOT MEGABYTE. Yes it might sound like I don't know anything but thats how internet companies get you with the acronym area . But anyways, I would also recommend just using shadowplay, I have a sound problem with it because it doesn't give enough settings to choose a sound output/input, because my motherboard is too old so I had to buy a sound card.
It records flawlessly, doesn't even drop your frames (so for I have noticed). BUT THIS ANSWER HAS NO FOUNDATION to work with so don't take this for granite.
 
FerretBomb

FerretBomb

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Why not include that in the information then? We aren't psychic.
What is the Quality and Jitter for the server? You want to use a server with a Quality of 90 or higher if possible, and test both short and long sessions.

Yes Soshiim, most around understand the Mb/MB difference. Shadowplay is extremely low-quality encoding compared to x264. Great for local recording, not so much for livestreaming.
 
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dsr07mm

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Quality is over 90, no problems in tests. I don't think that you are going to help me much, I expected help from support and tips about doing something not going through regular beginner stuff. Sorry but I will pass.

@Soshiim I'm not sure that you even know what are you talking and how the hell Shadowplay have anything with this. Sound issues, shadowplay for streaming.. Just hah. Also place for discussion about megabyte and megabit is not here neither anything was related to that.
 
FerretBomb

FerretBomb

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You start with beginner stuff when troubleshooting, to establish a baseline and rule out obvious issues, because many people have listened to bad information parroted on by people who don't know any better, or have missed a step because they assume they didn't need to bother.

Everyone here is a volunteer. There are no magic bullets. But as you like.

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