Question / Help Does OC'ing a cpu help streaming?

dodgepong

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There will be an improvement, but probably REALLY hard to notice. You might get a single extra frame per second in your game or something, if that.
 

Bensam123

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OCing would increase fluidity of your game, so if you're teetering on the low end this will make it look more fluid and thus improve the fluidity for the viewers as well (they see and have the same experience you do all else being equal).

OCing would also increase your available CPU headroom and as such, make the stream more fluid if OBS and whatever game you're running are fighting over processor usage.

That's OCing in general. With a 3570k if you're at 3.8 and go to 4, chances are you'd see little to no difference. If you went higher then that you'd more then likely start to see a difference. Almost all 3570ks are capable of running at least up to 4.2ghz, usually faster then that. I would look up some guides if you intend on OCing though, there are a lot of them.


Apple that sounds like you didn't have a stable OC.
 

Bensam123

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OCing in general does show some good results as per your benchmarks though, especially with minimum frame rates, which matter a lot.

I would be curious to see what sort of a impact such results would have while streaming, say 720p@60. There aren't a whole lot of formal benchmarks that focus around streaming performance in particular. Since the streaming process isn't entirely linear you wouldn't simply be able to say it would be exactly the same while streaming, the results may end up being even more pronounced (OCing would be even more beneficial while streaming).
 

WayZHC

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If you have 3570k with Z77 board, you should be able to go 4,2GHz at stock voltages (not all 3570Ks. Most of them.) so no extra heat. If you have 3570 non-K mode or 3570k with H77 or B75 board, you can't go higher than 3,8GHz.

I have mine at 4,4GHz and i can tell you the difference is huge. 3,8 -> 4 is not a big difference.
 

TheAppleBOOM

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Maybe you can shed some light on my issue, then. I'm using AMD Overdrive, and if I use any multiplier other than 18x (the standard), the audio either cuts out or stutters. I haven't had any other issue with OCing up to 4.2 so I'm not sure what's going on.
 

WayZHC

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TheAppleBOOM said:
Maybe you can shed some light on my issue, then. I'm using AMD Overdrive, and if I use any multiplier other than 18x (the standard), the audio either cuts out or stutters. I haven't had any other issue with OCing up to 4.2 so I'm not sure what's going on.

What CPU and Mobo you have? Also don't use Overdrive. Always overclock via bios. Those software overclock softwares are not so reliable. But before you overclock, i'd like to know your cpu and mobo.

E: okay you have AMD FX-4100. Mobo?
 

TheAppleBOOM

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WayZHC said:
TheAppleBOOM said:
Maybe you can shed some light on my issue, then. I'm using AMD Overdrive, and if I use any multiplier other than 18x (the standard), the audio either cuts out or stutters. I haven't had any other issue with OCing up to 4.2 so I'm not sure what's going on.

What CPU and Mobo you have? Also don't use Overdrive. Always overclock via bios. Those software overclock softwares are not so reliable. But before you overclock, i'd like to know your cpu and mobo.

E: okay you have AMD FX-4100. Mobo?

970A-UD3 Gigabyte
 

WayZHC

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Afaik that mobo has 4+1 power phase (*Insert the right term here. I don't know it in English. "Power delivery" maybe??*) which is quite weak for overclocking. Anyway try add little more voltage. Like 0.010V more. If still problems add another 0.010V. Also monitor the temperatures. Everything under 80ºC is fine. Over 90ºC is not recommended and @ 100ºC the system will shut down. Add voltage in 0.010V steps and find the spot where it's stable. Run prime95 as a stability test to see if its stable. Keep 85ºC as a "temperature cap" while running prime. If it goes past it and still not stable, you just can't get it to 4,2GHz stable. go back to old settings.

I don't take any responsibility for any damage caused by overclocking since i'm not helping you in "live". I can't see what you have done already and i don't know your current voltage or temps. Take a look at overclocking guide for your specific cpu just in case. Since i don't have experience with your cpu so i have no idea about the voltages what would be close.
 

TheAppleBOOM

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WayZHC said:
Afaik that mobo has 4+1 power phase (*Insert the right term here. I don't know it in English. "Power delivery" maybe??*) which is quite weak for overclocking. Anyway try add little more voltage. Like 0.010V more. If still problems add another 0.010V. Also monitor the temperatures. Everything under 80ºC is fine. Over 90ºC is not recommended and @ 100ºC the system will shut down. Add voltage in 0.010V steps and find the spot where it's stable. Run prime95 as a stability test to see if its stable. Keep 85ºC as a "temperature cap" while running prime. If it goes past it and still not stable, you just can't get it to 4,2GHz stable. go back to old settings.

I don't take any responsibility for any damage caused by overclocking since i'm not helping you in "live". I can't see what you have done already and i don't know your current voltage or temps. Take a look at overclocking guide for your specific cpu just in case. Since i don't have experience with your cpu so i have no idea about the voltages what would be close.

85? I thought it was dangerous to go above 70, but thank you. It's really difficult to find a lot of this information.
 

Bensam123

Member
There is no real 'safe' temperature written in stone somewhere. The higher the temperature, the more wear and tear it puts on your processor. 100c isn't shutdown temperature AFAIK, that's throttling territory. The processor itself will start lowering the frequency and voltage in order to keep it within safe margins. Intel processors start throttling themselves 100+. I don't know what shutdown temperature is, but that's not it.

The 970A-UD3 has a 8+2 configuration and it's a very good OC'er. All Gigabyte UD3 boards are good OCers. If you want to know more about what sorts of VRMs and components are put onto AMD motherboards visit the Overclockers.net database here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-m ... o-database


As was mentioned, do OCing in the bios. The ultimate bootcd has a built in prime95 benchmark which is useful for stress testing configurations (which is the easiest and best way to see if your configuration is stable). I wouldn't look for OCing advice here though, there are a lot of in depth helpful guides written by reputable hardware websites in regards to OCing. Just do a bit of Googling.

I don't know why your audio would have issues, but that sounds like a unstable OC to me.
 

WayZHC

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Bensam123 said:
There is no real 'safe' temperature written in stone somewhere. The higher the temperature, the more wear and tear it puts on your processor. 100c isn't shutdown temperature AFAIK, that's throttling territory. The processor itself will start lowering the frequency and voltage in order to keep it within safe margins. Intel processors start throttling themselves 100+. I don't know what shutdown temperature is, but that's not it.

The 970A-UD3 has a 8+2 configuration and it's a very good OC'er. All Gigabyte UD3 boards are good OCers. If you want to know more about what sorts of VRMs and components are put onto AMD motherboards visit the Overclockers.net database here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-m ... o-database


As was mentioned, do OCing in the bios. The ultimate bootcd has a built in prime95 benchmark which is useful for stress testing configurations (which is the easiest and best way to see if your configuration is stable). I wouldn't look for OCing advice here though, there are a lot of in depth helpful guides written by reputable hardware websites in regards to OCing. Just do a bit of Googling.

I don't know why your audio would have issues, but that sounds like a unstable OC to me.

Well the shut down temperature might also be different in different mobos since it's set to the BIOS by manufacturer and we don't know what they have put there. It can be 100-110c. I don't know. And the crisis shut down can be Disabled from the bios settings. By default it's Enabled and i know that my 3570k with ASRock Z77 Extreme4 shuts down at 100c when the crisis shut down is set to Enabled.

Prime95 temperatures will be much higher than the "real life" temperatures. So when aiming to 85c Prime temperatures, your gaming temperatures will be like 15-20c lower. Thats why i recommended 85c Prime temperatures :p

Also keep in mind that every cpu (and mobo) will oc differently. You just can't "copy and paste" settings from a guide. For example i always start with SLIGHT over voltage (for example if the guy in guide got his cpu stable at lets say 1.2V, i start at 1.24V since 1.2V might not be stable for me) and then trying to find the lowest

Ah sorry i didn't check the power configuration. I just took that false info from my memory. There are so many mobos on market so can't remember those :D D3 has 4+1 and UD3 has 8+2. 8+2 is strong enough for overclocking even for FX-8xxx series.

Yeah i'm pretty sure those audio issues are caused by unstable OC. I experienced same issue while i was finding the lowest stable voltage (started from 1.248V and problems started near 1.2V) for 4,4GHz and it was stable while running Prime95 but sounds were really weird. I put 0.005V more voltage and now i have ran with these settings for 4 months. 4,4GHz @ 1.216V
 
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