Question / Help Blurry Stream.

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Fewufu

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So I've just upgraded to Fibre 76 down 20up.
And i've been messing with my settings alot, as I could never get a clear video on OBS even when local recording.

Specs:
i7 4790k
nvidia 660 gtx (looking to upgrade at some point) with twin monitors, i know its a bit low, but its my understanding its the CPU thats processing the video.
12gb ram (have removed 4 for another pc build atm)

i've tried so many combinations of settings etc, from tweaking my bitrate to higher (I've seen many posts that state, none twitch partners don't get to stream over 2k bit rate?, with partners at 3.5k max).

I get minimum of 10 upload even on a slow day, and I just can't seem to get my picture to be clear and unblurry when playing a few games.. Fallout 4 being the most recent I'm trying with.

I've tried changing CPU preset, cbr off, cbr on, downscaling to 720p, I find the stream quality is better at 1080p lower bitrate than 720 downscaled.
I see people with smooth streams on even worse pc's than me. a little bit of help would be greatly appreciated as I'm stumped completely.
 
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current tested settings which i found a bit less laggy and blurry, but still would motion blur alot.

12:19:34: Open Broadcaster Software v0.656b - 64bit (　^ω^)
12:19:34: -------------------------------
12:19:34: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz
12:19:34: CPU Speed: 4000MHz
12:19:34: Physical Memory: 12200MB Total, 6595MB Free
12:19:34: stepping id: 3, model 60, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
12:19:34: monitor 1: pos={-1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
12:19:34: monitor 2: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
12:19:34: Windows Version: 10.0 Build 10586 (revision 0)
12:19:34: Aero is Enabled
12:19:34: -------------------------------
12:19:34: OBS Modules:
12:19:34: Base Address Module
12:19:34: 0000000044B90000 OBS.exe
12:19:34: 000000004AA40000 OBSApi.dll
12:19:34: 000000004C2F0000 DShowPlugin.dll
12:19:34: 000000004C2B0000 GraphicsCapture.dll
12:19:34: 000000004D2E0000 NoiseGate.dll
12:19:34: 000000004C280000 PSVPlugin.dll
12:19:34: 000000004B830000 scenesw.dll
12:19:34: ------------------------------------------
12:19:34: Adapter 1
12:19:34: Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
12:19:34: Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 2085486592
12:19:34: Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 2101663744
12:19:34: Video Adapter Output 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
12:19:34: Video Adapter Output 2: pos={-1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
12:19:34: =====Stream Start: 2015-11-18, 12:19:34===============================================
12:19:34: Multithreaded optimizations: On
12:19:34: Base resolution: 1920x1080
12:19:34: Output resolution: 1920x1080
12:19:34: ------------------------------------------
12:19:34: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 (Adapter 1)...
12:19:34: ------------------------------------------
12:19:34: Audio Format: 44100 Hz
12:19:34: ------------------------------------------
12:19:34: Audio Channels: 2 Ch
12:19:34: Playback device Default
12:19:34: ------------------------------------------
12:19:34: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Logitech G930 Headset)
12:19:34: Global Audio time adjust: 0
12:19:34: Using 7.1 surround speaker setup
12:19:34: ------------------------------------------
12:19:34: Audio Encoding: AAC
12:19:34: bitrate: 96
12:19:34: Using graphics capture
12:19:34: Using anti-cheat hooking for game capture
12:19:34: Trying to hook process: Fallout4.exe
12:19:34: Scene buffering time set to 400
12:19:34: ------------------------------------------
12:19:34: Video Encoding: x264
12:19:34: fps: 25
12:19:34: width: 1920, height: 1080
12:19:34: preset: fast
12:19:34: profile: main
12:19:34: keyint: 50
12:19:34: CBR: yes
12:19:34: CFR: yes
12:19:34: max bitrate: 2800
12:19:34: buffer size: 2800
12:19:34: ------------------------------------------
12:19:36: Using RTMP service: Twitch
12:19:36: Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr.twitch.tv/app
12:19:36: Interface: Killer e2200 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (ethernet, 100 mbps)
12:19:37: Completed handshake with rtmp://live-lhr.twitch.tv/app in 338 ms.
12:19:37: SO_SNDBUF was at 65536
12:19:41: SharedTexCapture hooked
12:19:43: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 131072 (buffer: 202357 / 370688)
12:19:43: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 262144 (buffer: 410 / 370688)
12:19:59: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 524288 (buffer: 0 / 370688)
12:20:19: =====Stream End (recording continues): 2015-11-18, 12:20:19=========================
12:20:19: ~RTMPPublisher: Packet flush completed in 139 ms
12:20:19: ~RTMPPublisher: Send thread terminated in 1 ms
12:20:19: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
12:20:19: ~RTMPPublisher: Socket thread terminated in 0 ms
12:20:20: ~RTMPPublisher: Final socket shutdown completed in 234 ms
12:20:20: Average send payload: 9068 bytes, average send interval: 24 ms
12:20:20: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
12:20:20: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
12:20:20: Number of bytes sent: 15171488
12:20:22: Total frames encoded: 1195, total frames duplicated: 61 (5.10%)
12:20:22: Total frames rendered: 1159, number of late frames: 5 (0.43%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
12:20:22:
12:20:22: Profiler time results:
12:20:22:
12:20:22: ==============================================================
12:20:22: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 2.938 ms] [children: 6.64%] [unaccounted: 93.4%]
12:20:22: | scene->Preprocess - [0.034%] [avg time: 0.001 ms]
12:20:22: | GPU download and conversion - [6.6%] [avg time: 0.194 ms] [children: 3.17%] [unaccounted: 3.44%]
12:20:22: | | flush - [2.93%] [avg time: 0.086 ms]
12:20:22: | | CopyResource - [0.17%] [avg time: 0.005 ms]
12:20:22: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.0681%] [avg time: 0.002 ms]
12:20:22: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 1.373 ms] [children: 99.6%] [unaccounted: 0.364%]
12:20:22: | Convert444toNV12 - [99.6%] [avg time: 1.368 ms]
12:20:22: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 1.855 ms] [children: 2.75%] [unaccounted: 97.3%]
12:20:22: | sending stuff out - [2.75%] [avg time: 0.051 ms]
12:20:22: ==============================================================
12:20:22:
12:20:22:
12:20:22: Profiler CPU results:
12:20:22:
12:20:22: ==============================================================
12:20:22: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.08 ms, total 93.75 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
12:20:22: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
12:20:22: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0.013 ms, total 15.625 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
12:20:22: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0.013 ms, total 15.625 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
12:20:22: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
12:20:22: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
12:20:22: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 1.349 ms, total 3093.75 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
12:20:22: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 1.349 ms, total 3093.75 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
12:20:22: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 1.464 ms, total 1750 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
12:20:22: | sending stuff out - [cpu time: avg 0.065 ms, total 78.125 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
12:20:22: ==============================================================
12:20:22:
12:20:22: =====Stream End: 2015-11-18, 12:20:22=================================================
12:20:34: Terminating 0x2928
12:20:34: Terminating 0xea0


Last game capture log:
2015-11-18, 11:48:09: we're booting up:
11:48:09: CaptureThread: attached to process Fallout4.exe
11:48:09: DXGI Present
11:48:09: (half life scientist) everything.. seems to be in order
11:48:09: DXGI: Found D3D 11
11:48:09: setting up d3d11 data
11:48:09: ---------------------- Cleared D3D11 Capture ----------------------
11:48:09: found dxgi format (dx11) of: 28, size: {1920, 1080}, multisampled: false
11:48:09: DoD3D11Hook: success
11:48:09: successfully capturing d3d11 frames via GPU
11:57:11: stop requested, terminating d3d11 capture
11:57:11: ---------------------- Cleared D3D11 Capture ----------------------
11:57:11: DoD3D11Hook: success
11:57:11: successfully capturing d3d11 frames via GPU
11:59:49: stop requested, terminating d3d11 capture
11:59:49: ---------------------- Cleared D3D11 Capture ----------------------
11:59:49: DoD3D11Hook: success
11:59:49: successfully capturing d3d11 frames via GPU
11:59:59: stop requested, terminating d3d11 capture
11:59:59: ---------------------- Cleared D3D11 Capture ----------------------
11:59:59: DoD3D11Hook: success
11:59:59: successfully capturing d3d11 frames via GPU
12:03:11: stop requested, terminating d3d11 capture
12:03:11: ---------------------- Cleared D3D11 Capture ----------------------
12:03:11: DoD3D11Hook: success
12:03:11: successfully capturing d3d11 frames via GPU
12:12:04: stop requested, terminating d3d11 capture
12:12:04: ---------------------- Cleared D3D11 Capture ----------------------
12:12:04: DoD3D11Hook: success
12:12:05: successfully capturing d3d11 frames via GPU
12:19:41: stop requested, terminating d3d11 capture
12:19:41: ---------------------- Cleared D3D11 Capture ----------------------
12:19:41: DoD3D11Hook: success
12:19:41: successfully capturing d3d11 frames via GPU
 
Because not everyone has good routes to the viewer servers in san fransisco.

Sure their last mile connection may be great, but if the path to the viewer server can only handle about 2200kbit total, they're not going to be able to watch a stream broadcasting at 3500kbit video.
 
I've just tried downscaling to 720p, and increasing the bitrate again, still the same. I'm using my laptop connected to my 4g mobile connection (50meg download, 15meg upload) to view the stream other streams are still lag free, yet mine seems to be suffering.

I honestly, don't understand why it can't make a decent quality one, I've tweaked everything..
 
Post an example. I found your twitch but you don't have past broadcasts saved.

At the end of the day, its not a 1080p 14000+kbpsYouTube video. It's never going to be perfect quality.
 
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Post an example. I found your twitch but you don't have past broadcasts saved.

At the end of the day, its not a 1080p 14000+kbpsYouTube video. It's never going to be perfect quality.
Click to expand...
Cheer for the reply.

this was the 720p one.
http://www.twitch.tv/fewufu/v/26421192

http://www.twitch.tv/fewufu/v/26349109
and this a 1080p one, i alt tab alot out of game so the freezes are the alt tab

I just added a few more all with different settings, it seems no matter what i do.. its always the same.

I know i'm not gonna get crystal clear, but alot of ppl with worse gear than me get better quality with lower internet speeds.
 
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The 720p looks fine but stuttery (ill double check when I get home, might just be my shitty laptop), 1080p requires more bitrate than you can send to Twitch to look good so don't bother with it. I'm not aware of many people that stream at 1080p.

Are you still running 25 fps? you should change that to 30 and post a log of a 720p stream.
 
nagh it was set to 720p. its defo stuttery, and goes really blurry at times, my cpu and internet is more than enough i don't understand at all ;(

Cheers for having a look buddy.
i'll do another upload and log when i get home.
 
I'm on windows 10 btw, have they fixed the issues with win 10 yet? I thought 0.656b was meant to have fixed it
My picture quality is great when loading in fallout 4. but the minute i move an inch, blurry, and it looks like i'm doing the robot every time i move.

i've just tested on youtube and its even worse on that.
I can't see any problems with my internet as 72/20mb every test i've done..

@edit
also just tested with shadow play.. it seems same quality..I have reinstalled all my graphics drivers and cleared all settings.. I must be doing something wrong lol

@editedit
I just installed windows 8 and 8.1 on seperate harddrives and i'm still having the problems.. I have no problems with viewing ppl's streams and uploading to youtube... i find it strange this is still doing it.

Here's the log from OBS and twitch.
20:59:27: Open Broadcaster Software v0.656b - 64bit (　^ω^)
20:59:27: -------------------------------
20:59:27: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz
20:59:27: CPU Speed: 4000MHz
20:59:27: Physical Memory: 12200MB Total, 5060MB Free
20:59:27: stepping id: 3, model 60, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
20:59:27: monitor 1: pos={-1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
20:59:27: monitor 2: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
20:59:27: Windows Version: 10.0 Build 10586 (revision 0)
20:59:27: Aero is Enabled
20:59:27: -------------------------------
20:59:27: OBS Modules:
20:59:27: Base Address Module
20:59:27: 000000004E330000 OBS.exe
20:59:27: 0000000059650000 OBSApi.dll
20:59:27: 0000000061700000 DShowPlugin.dll
20:59:27: 0000000061A40000 GraphicsCapture.dll
20:59:27: 00000000616D0000 NoiseGate.dll
20:59:27: 00000000616A0000 PSVPlugin.dll
20:59:27: 0000000061670000 scenesw.dll
20:59:27: ------------------------------------------
20:59:27: Adapter 1
20:59:27: Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
20:59:27: Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 2085486592
20:59:27: Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 2101663744
20:59:27: Video Adapter Output 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
20:59:27: Video Adapter Output 2: pos={-1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
20:59:27: =====Stream Start: 2015-11-18, 20:59:27===============================================
20:59:27: Multithreaded optimizations: On
20:59:27: Base resolution: 1920x1080
20:59:27: Output resolution: 1280x720
20:59:27: ------------------------------------------
20:59:27: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 (Adapter 1)...
20:59:27: ------------------------------------------
20:59:27: Audio Format: 44100 Hz
20:59:27: ------------------------------------------
20:59:27: Audio Channels: 2 Ch
20:59:27: Playback device Default
20:59:27: ------------------------------------------
20:59:27: Using desktop audio input: M2732-4 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
20:59:27: Global Audio time adjust: 0
20:59:27: ------------------------------------------
20:59:27: Audio Encoding: AAC
20:59:27: bitrate: 128
20:59:27: Using graphics capture
20:59:27: Trying to hook process: Fallout4.exe
20:59:27: Scene buffering time set to 400
20:59:27: ------------------------------------------
20:59:27: Video Encoding: x264
20:59:27: fps: 30
20:59:27: width: 1280, height: 720
20:59:27: preset: veryfast
20:59:27: profile: high
20:59:27: keyint: 60
20:59:27: CBR: yes
20:59:27: CFR: yes
20:59:27: max bitrate: 2200
20:59:27: buffer size: 2200
20:59:27: ------------------------------------------
20:59:29: Using RTMP service: Twitch
20:59:29: Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr.twitch.tv/app
20:59:29: Interface: Killer e2200 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (ethernet, 100 mbps)
20:59:29: Completed handshake with rtmp://live-lhr.twitch.tv/app in 338 ms.
20:59:30: SO_SNDBUF was at 65536
20:59:33: SharedTexCapture hooked
20:59:34: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 131072 (buffer: 81721 / 297984)
20:59:35: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 262144 (buffer: 0 / 297984)
21:11:49: =====Stream End (recording continues): 2015-11-18, 21:11:49=========================
21:11:49: ~RTMPPublisher: Packet flush completed in 115 ms
21:11:49: ~RTMPPublisher: Send thread terminated in 0 ms
21:11:49: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
21:11:49: ~RTMPPublisher: Socket thread terminated in 1 ms
21:11:50: ~RTMPPublisher: Final socket shutdown completed in 230 ms
21:11:50: Average send payload: 6597 bytes, average send interval: 22 ms
21:11:50: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
21:11:50: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
21:11:50: Number of bytes sent: 215477891
21:11:52: FlushBufferedVideo: Flushing 26 packets over 834 ms
21:11:52: Total frames encoded: 22340, total frames duplicated: 1633 (7.31%)
21:11:52: Total frames rendered: 21442, number of late frames: 495 (2.31%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
21:11:52:
21:11:52: Profiler time results:
21:11:52:
21:11:52: ==============================================================
21:11:52: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 5.066 ms] [children: 96.7%] [unaccounted: 3.3%]
21:11:52: | scene->Preprocess - [0.0395%] [avg time: 0.002 ms]
21:11:52: | GPU download and conversion - [96.7%] [avg time: 4.897 ms] [children: 15.1%] [unaccounted: 81.6%]
21:11:52: | | flush - [13.6%] [avg time: 0.69 ms]
21:11:52: | | CopyResource - [1.4%] [avg time: 0.071 ms]
21:11:52: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.0592%] [avg time: 0.003 ms]
21:11:52: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.735 ms] [children: 99.6%] [unaccounted: 0.408%]
21:11:52: | Convert444toNV12 - [99.6%] [avg time: 0.732 ms]
21:11:52: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 1.384 ms] [children: 19.7%] [unaccounted: 80.3%]
21:11:52: | sending stuff out - [19.7%] [avg time: 0.273 ms]
21:11:52: ==============================================================
21:11:52:
21:11:52:
21:11:52: Profiler CPU results:
21:11:52:
21:11:52: ==============================================================
21:11:52: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.063 ms, total 1359.38 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
21:11:52: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
21:11:52: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0.052 ms, total 1125 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
21:11:52: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0.044 ms, total 953.125 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
21:11:52: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 15.625 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
21:11:52: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
21:11:52: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0.457 ms, total 19593.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
21:11:52: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0.456 ms, total 19578.1 ms] [avg calls per frame: 2]
21:11:52: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 0.866 ms, total 19343.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
21:11:52: | sending stuff out - [cpu time: avg 0.238 ms, total 5328.13 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
21:11:52: ==============================================================
21:11:52:
21:11:52: =====Stream End: 2015-11-18, 21:11:52=================================================
21:11:53: Terminating 0x56e8
21:11:53: Terminating 0x57c0


Last game capture log:
2015-11-18, 20:52:44: we're booting up:
20:52:44: CaptureThread: attached to process Fallout4.exe
20:52:44: DXGI Present
20:52:44: (half life scientist) everything.. seems to be in order
20:53:11: DXGI: Found D3D 11
20:53:11: setting up d3d11 data
20:53:11: ---------------------- Cleared D3D11 Capture ----------------------
20:53:11: found dxgi format (dx11) of: 28, size: {1920, 1080}, multisampled: false
20:53:11: DoD3D11Hook: success
20:53:11: successfully capturing d3d11 frames via GPU
20:57:53: stop requested, terminating d3d11 capture
20:57:53: ---------------------- Cleared D3D11 Capture ----------------------
20:57:53: DoD3D11Hook: success
20:57:54: successfully capturing d3d11 frames via GPU
20:59:33: stop requested, terminating d3d11 capture
20:59:33: ---------------------- Cleared D3D11 Capture ----------------------
20:59:33: DoD3D11Hook: success
20:59:33: successfully capturing d3d11 frames via GPU
21:11:52: stop requested, terminating d3d11 capture
21:11:52: ---------------------- Cleared D3D11 Capture ----------------------
21:11:52: DoD3D11Hook: success
 
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