Question / Help Best bitrate for 720p 60fps streaming FFXIV?

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Hav3nsblade

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Title explains it all, what is the best bitrate/max buffer size to stream FFXIV in 720p and 60fps? I mess around with the bitrate/max buffer size but, I would like some advice. Thanks
 
Krazy

Krazy

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Generally 2500 is a good starting point for 720p60fps in games where the full scene is in motion a lot.
 
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Kharay

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Unless you have a very specific reason to use a custom buffer size it is safest to simply leave it disabled.
 
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Hav3nsblade

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One last question, how would I be able to fix how fuzzy/blurry the stream video quality gets? That really irks me and I would like to lessen that as much as possible so my viewers can have a better picture. Would I have to increase bitrate even more?
 
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Kharay

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Sadly, MMORPGs being what they are and showing their content in the way they do, it is kind of challenging to completely avoid pixelation. You could try dropping down a preset (or 2, if your PC can handle it) in Advanced. So, down from Veryfast to Faster or Fast. That will help to some extent.

Thing is, beyond a certain point, additional bitrate starts suffering from some diminishing returns. For example, if I experiment with Dota 2, it will look like 90% the same at 1800 Kbps as it does at 2700 Kbps.

FF14 in particular probably is quite challenging to stream with absolute clarity. I have watched a few people try and stream it and so far I have yet to see 1 streamer streaming FF14 do so without actually having a very notable quality loss.
 
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Hav3nsblade

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The only method I had was to basically have no downscale which my native resolution is 900p but, I know some people can barely handle 720p
 
Krazy

Krazy

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People being able to watch streams is way more bitrate dependent than than resolution dependent. Even some old dual cores can handle 1080p decoding.
 
FerretBomb

FerretBomb

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alpinlol said:
ImMrLink said:
Just saying if you're not partnered with twitch using 60fps is just a waste of time.
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this makes no sense at all
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Actually, it does. The recommended max for non-partners is 2000kbps. That isn't anywhere NEAR enough for a 720@60 stream. Even 2500kbps is only really going to suffice for low-medium motion games (eg: NOT MMOs/third-person games, FPSes, racing games, etc) at 720@60.

For good quality 720@60 in high-motion games, 3000kbps is actually a midrange, with 3500 being better. Partnered streamers who have transcodes available (all the time) can get away with this as people can select a lower quality option if they buffer too much. For a non-partner? They'll just leave.

That said, 60fps for an MMO is indeed very much a waste. Due to the high on-screen motion of the third-person format, I'd recommend 30fps maximum, devoting significantly more bitrate to image fidelity, especially helping when you turn the camera or move around at all.

Oh, and don't use a custom buffer. Most recommending them don't know what the hell they're talking about or what it's for, just parroting something they heard.
 
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