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vahlkor

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Hey guys is OBS compatible with AVerMedia C985 Live Gamer HD 1080p Capture Card or AVerMedia - C875 Live Gamer Portable (LGP) HD Game Capture for PC/PS3 & 4/Wii U/Xbox360 & One up to 1080p, 60Mbps.



Amazon links:
http://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-C985-Ga ... e+gamer+hd

http://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-Portabl ... e+gamer+hd

what im looking for is to connect my capture card and use it to broadcast the image live on the same scene to local record with OBS. I will put a picture attached so you guys get the idea.
 

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The Live Gamer HD is compatible with OBS but you can't use its hardware encoder. I don't believe the Live Gamer Portable will work at all without the help of some third-party tools from AVerMedia which may or may not be publicly available yet.

Why do you need a capture card? Based on your description and image you could just use the Window Capture or Game Capture functions in OBS unless I'm misunderstanding something.
 
Sapiens said:
The Live Gamer HD is compatible with OBS but you can't use its hardware encoder. I don't believe the Live Gamer Portable will work at all without the help of some third-party tools from AVerMedia which may or may not be publicly available yet.

Why do you need a capture card? Based on your description and image you could just use the Window Capture or Game Capture functions in OBS unless I'm misunderstanding something.

thanks for your reply, I just heard that having a capture card would take away some of the load off my processor. Is that true or I shouldnt need it anyways?
 
vahlkor said:
thanks for your reply, I just heard that having a capture card would take away some of the load off my processor. Is that true or I shouldnt need it anyways?

To do that with OBS, you need a second computer running the capture card. On a single computer, there's no capture card solution available with OBS for games that run on the same computer that's better than not using a capture card.
 
To do that with OBS, you need a second computer running the capture card. On a single computer, there's no capture card solution available with OBS for games that run on the same computer that's better than not using a capture card.

I see, though it was possible to do it like how they advertise with xsplit.
 
First of all, using Avermedia Live Gamer HD cards (both internal and portable) as a encoder for streaming material is pointless. Quality is rubbish. It's just a simple grabbing card with some kind of internal unit for encoding. But tell me, does it have the same power as i5/i7 CPU which can encode quite nice quality material? Nope. So using this type of card can make sense only when using it as a grabber/video source for encoding with such software as OBS. But as many people say it would still eat up some CPU power while grabbing too. So if you just want to capture game you play on your PC and encode and stream from that PC then buying Avermedia Live Gamer HD is... pointless again. It's better to add this money up for a better CPU. The only situation in which having Avermedia Live Gamer HD as a capture card is a good idea it's when you capture external source like console game (X360/PS3, any HDMI source) or secondary, gamer PC (PC with LGHD works as a encoding/streaming machine only then and you play the game on other machine which outputs it's video to LGHD). Then and only then buying Avermedia Live Gamer HD can make sense.

And one more thing. While many people say it's not possible, it is possible to both capture and encode material just with Avermedia Live Gamer HD. But you can do this only by using ReCentral - Avermedia software for Live Gamer cards. But it's just simple capturing of material without making and managing any scenes and stuff. And still it's pointless because internal Live Gamer HD encoder is a joke by design. And yes, XSplit can utilize internal LGHD encoder but again - quality is rubbish (especially in lower bitrates which are common in streaming).

OBS can only use LGHD as a video source (capture card) and - as I've mentioned before - it's not worthy if you plan to capture (play) local source and encode/stream from one PC. You can stay with OBS Game Capture / Window Capture methods. So get LGHD if you plan to capture console games, gaming source from secondary PC or if you play some really nasty game which you can't capture with OBS internal methods. And don't count on it as an encoder machine which will free up your CPU from hard encoding work. It's just too weak to handle decent encoding quality.
 
grocal said:
First of all, using Avermedia Live Gamer HD cards (both internal and portable) as a encoder for streaming material is pointless. Quality is rubbish. It's just a simple grabbing card with some kind of internal unit for encoding. But tell me, does it have the same power as i5/i7 CPU which can encode quite nice quality material? Nope. So using this type of card can make sense only when using it as a grabber/video source for encoding with such software as OBS. But as many people say it would still eat up some CPU power while grabbing too. So if you just want to capture game you play on your PC and encode and stream from that PC then buying Avermedia Live Gamer HD is... pointless again. It's better to add this money up for a better CPU. The only situation in which having Avermedia Live Gamer HD as a capture card is a good idea it's when you capture external source like console game (X360/PS3, any HDMI source) or secondary, gamer PC (PC with LGHD works as a encoding/streaming machine only then and you play the game on other machine which outputs it's video to LGHD). Then and only then buying Avermedia Live Gamer HD can make sense.

And one more thing. While many people say it's not possible, it is possible to both capture and encode material just with Avermedia Live Gamer HD. But you can do this only by using ReCentral - Avermedia software for Live Gamer cards. But it's just simple capturing of material without making and managing any scenes and stuff. And still it's pointless because internal Live Gamer HD encoder is a joke by design. And yes, XSplit can utilize internal LGHD encoder but again - quality is rubbish (especially in lower bitrates which are common in streaming).

OBS can only use LGHD as a video source (capture card) and - as I've mentioned before - it's not worthy if you plan to capture (play) local source and encode/stream from one PC. You can stay with OBS Game Capture / Window Capture methods. So get LGHD if you plan to capture console games, gaming source from secondary PC or if you play some really nasty game which you can't capture with OBS internal methods. And don't count on it as an encoder machine which will free up your CPU from hard encoding work. It's just too weak to handle decent encoding quality.

Wow thanks alot of great information. I will end up getting a better mic instead my cpu is a i7 3770k. If I get the next gen consoles then I might get the card.
 
Hi Guys!

Just bough one of these card and i'm getting it today. Has anything changed since Oct 26, 2013? Is it still pointless if I will be using it on the same computer? Thanks!
 
Yea, capture cards in a one pc setup bring no real benefit anymore. The included encoder can be used for high quality recordings but thats about it. For streaming its not usable.
 
why cant it be used to stream? NVENC and the AMDencoder seem to be working/projects going on.

is it more of a proprietary thing?
 
Avermedia does not offer a free SDK to add support for their encoder.
They partnered with a company I dont want to mention but even this company can only use either the encoder or the capture card, not both at the same time as the software would do.

So to my knowledge, unless avermedia changes their policies, we cannot add support for the encoder.
Intel, AMD and Nvidia all offer a sdk (and for free I think).
 
Avermedia does not offer a free SDK to add support for their encoder.
They partnered with a company I dont want to mention but even this company can only use either the encoder or the capture card, not both at the same time as the software would do.

So to my knowledge, unless avermedia changes their policies, we cannot add support for the encoder.
Intel, AMD and Nvidia all offer a sdk (and for free I think).

oh, thanks for the reply :)
 
Hopefully someone can help with this, i've got the Live Gamer HD, installed in my computer and coupled to my PS4. I can see the PS4 through the supplied software of RECentral, but I want to use OBS to record the gameplay directly instead of RECentral. I have HDCP disabled on my PS4 but still cant get the PS4 working in OBS. Any and all help would be great :D
 
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