Colin Cole
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Is it compatible with obs / is it a good replacement for my elgato.
Question / Help AverMedia Live Gamer Portable
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Vaughn Whiskey
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgpHJw8rCd_VdEVRXzVJbUV2M0xDZEdxWGNXRkpDLWc#gid=0 is a list of devices (i think it is up to date) and it says yes for portable.
Colin Cole
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You're the best, I really appreciate it!
Vaughn Whiskey
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and how does this have anything to do with the gentlemen's question?
Jaxel
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He wanted to know if it would be a good replacement for his Elgato. I'm clearly saying no.
Vaughn Whiskey
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but you didn't explain, give reason why.
as for someone who has switched from Elgato to Avermedia Live Gamer HD PCIe, I have zero issues with it.
Colin Cole
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Yeah, so far i've only been hearing good things about it and I like the look of the software. I've had a couple of problems with my elgato and I just want to see which one I like better.
Jack0r
The Helping Squad
I think we have less forum threads from Avermedia than we have from elgato, and half of the threads are just simple user problems (wrong configuration, not using StreamEngine, a few people managed to kill their cards with firmware updates and had to RMA it).
The elgato problems go from audio/video sync, to black screen, device not found, missing drivers on mac, and dont get an HD60 :)
For the Live Gamer Portable, as mentioned, make sure to add it to OBS using the Stream Engine software, and you should be fine. I think it has a small delay as all/most usb2.0 devices, but thats about it.
The elgato problems go from audio/video sync, to black screen, device not found, missing drivers on mac, and dont get an HD60 :)
For the Live Gamer Portable, as mentioned, make sure to add it to OBS using the Stream Engine software, and you should be fine. I think it has a small delay as all/most usb2.0 devices, but thats about it.
Vaughn Whiskey
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I trust Jack0r with my chicken nuggets so when he comments, he isn't going to BS ya. but Now i have a question Jack, I have been using my Avermedia without Stream Engine. What does it do? Does it matter?
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wdapunisher
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I have a live gamer portable for the most part I like it. I do have audio sync issues with it though. I have to restart my stream every 20 minutes or so which sucks. Is it bad? No, it does quality recording.
Jack0r
The Helping Squad
Hmm, with a live gamer hd or live gamer portable @Vaughn Whiskey? For the portable the Stream Engine is needed as the device encodes its output, on the live gamer hd you can use it to use the device in more than one program at the same time, but apart of that its not needed as far as I know.
Vaughn Whiskey
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yea i am using the live gamer hd pcie c985, i might install it anyways so i can record raw footage from the game. thanks sir.
Jaxel
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The problem I have with the "Live Gamer" line of products is the word automatic. One of the "features" of the Live Gamer line is it's ability to automatically detect the resolution of your input source and output it directly to the resolution you set in OBS. So theoretically it does automatic upscaling and downscaling.
My problem is it often gets this "automatic" detection wrong; and they offer no way to manually force an input resolution. If you're constantly playing on all different resolutions and sources, the live gamer series is extremely cumbersome and a hassle to use... which is interesting because its designed to be the easiest to use. But many older consoles have some non-standard resolutions. Some games for the Dreamcast ran at 40fps in some areas. Some games for the PS1 ran at 320x240 instead of the full 720x480.
I have tried the Live Gamer HD and the Live Gamer Portable; they are essentially the same product. If you have compatible USB3. I recommend the AVerMedia U3 ExtremeCap. Or if you have pCIE access, the AVerMedia c127 Game Broadcaster HD. Also, I have an extra U3 ExtremeCap for sale, if anyone is interested.
I only recommend the LGP to users who don't have access to a computer. If you need to do on the spot recording, without the use of a computer, the LGP is great. But for streaming; I couldn't stand it... get a real capture card.
My problem is it often gets this "automatic" detection wrong; and they offer no way to manually force an input resolution. If you're constantly playing on all different resolutions and sources, the live gamer series is extremely cumbersome and a hassle to use... which is interesting because its designed to be the easiest to use. But many older consoles have some non-standard resolutions. Some games for the Dreamcast ran at 40fps in some areas. Some games for the PS1 ran at 320x240 instead of the full 720x480.
I have tried the Live Gamer HD and the Live Gamer Portable; they are essentially the same product. If you have compatible USB3. I recommend the AVerMedia U3 ExtremeCap. Or if you have pCIE access, the AVerMedia c127 Game Broadcaster HD. Also, I have an extra U3 ExtremeCap for sale, if anyone is interested.
I only recommend the LGP to users who don't have access to a computer. If you need to do on the spot recording, without the use of a computer, the LGP is great. But for streaming; I couldn't stand it... get a real capture card.
Vaughn Whiskey
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didn't run into that issue at all. Guess I am lucky... as for the snarky "Get a real capture card" comment, if it does the job I want it to, what's the issue? If it didn't work for you doesn't mean it won't for others and hell, my viewers bought it for me so I am not complaining.
Jack0r
The Helping Squad
Actually for the PS1 you mentioned I would probably recommend an x-capture, the avermedia cards definitely do not support some of the lower resolutions, but they normally keep an up to date list of the resolutions that will work on their homepage.
I personally also use the Game Broadcaster HD and can recommend it, but I do not fully understand your explanation of the "automatic detection". For example, on my GB HD, if I use the avermedia software to watch the input, it will use 720p if I input 720, or 1080 if I input 1080. If I remember correct, it didnt give an option to select the input resolution, just the output res if you want to record it. (I actually dont mean recentral, but this avermedia media center) So it detected the input and showed that (need to try that later).
In OBS we have to set the custom resolution ourselves and should get a picture. I can also force the resolution that way, but if the input does not fit, the image will look distorted or bad.
The live gamer hd is the only card having the option to downscale 1080p to 720p as far as I know, so that will work, but apart of that you can only "downscale" to:
I personally also use the Game Broadcaster HD and can recommend it, but I do not fully understand your explanation of the "automatic detection". For example, on my GB HD, if I use the avermedia software to watch the input, it will use 720p if I input 720, or 1080 if I input 1080. If I remember correct, it didnt give an option to select the input resolution, just the output res if you want to record it. (I actually dont mean recentral, but this avermedia media center) So it detected the input and showed that (need to try that later).
In OBS we have to set the custom resolution ourselves and should get a picture. I can also force the resolution that way, but if the input does not fit, the image will look distorted or bad.
The live gamer hd is the only card having the option to downscale 1080p to 720p as far as I know, so that will work, but apart of that you can only "downscale" to:
These resolutions depend on your input though, so not all will work at all time. (At least not on my GB HD, and the prior avermedia card I had)
Colin Cole
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Thanks for all the help everyone, I really appreciate it. I'm going to be trying to use it for primarily streaming. I do most of my recording on the elgato, but cant get it to work for obs. I'm going to get a new pc soon, but I cant afford one right now. I'm just looking for a good alternative to the elgato for now until I snag a pc.