Question / Help ~60 secs delay, any way to lower it?

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hi, i'm streaming on my channell with about 60 seconds delay, i know that there is a natural delay that you can't get rid of but i would like to know if there is a way to lower it to about 10-20 seconds, maybe i'm missing an option somewhere (delay option in the broadcasting settings is set to 0)

60 seconds seems a bit too much to me, maybe i'm wrong, i'm on a 20/10 connection so i can stream at any resolution, anyway let me know if you need additional information and thanks for help
 
If you're streaming to Twitch, this is an effect of their new video delivery system.
Under the old system, 6-10 second delays were normal.
Under the new system, average is about 30s delay for a 'good' stream, but I regularly have viewers reporting up to 2m delays, and one or two reporting 6-10m delays. It's crazy. And frustrating as hell, especially when they keep saying that it's 'for the greater good', and implemented it after testing the new system during Dreamhack... a totally NON-INTERACTIVE WHATSOEVER STREAM. Of COURSE it isn't going to affect something like that.

Nothing you can do about it, the problem is on Twitch's side.
 
yeah i'm streaming on twitch, so it's normal now, didn't know about this new system, kinda sucks...well thanks for the reply anyway
 
The only thing you can do on your end is to make sure you've set your keyframe interval to 2 seconds in Advanced.
 
yep it's already on 2 secs

oh and btw, how much should be the bitrate to stream smoothly at 480? right now i'm at 720 with 3500 bitrate but some people say that they can't see the stream (lag) because the resolution is too high and i don't have the resolution selectable because i'm not a partner with twitch, so i would like to lower it a bit
 
Well, what game are you playing? For most games, 720p at 3500 bitrate is overkill and you can get away with a lot lower.

Just to clarify: Stream lag doesn't (usually) have anything to do with resolution as most modern PCs/laptops can easily decode a 720p picture, the lag is network (bitrate) related. Lowering bitrate is the solution to most stream lag issues.
 
i'm streaming dark souls and hearthstone these days so, can i stream at 720 with bitrate set to, let's say 1500 ? will viewers experience stream freeze/lag ?
 
3500kbps is MASSIVE overkill for 720p@30fps.

1500 is where 720@30 starts as 'acceptable' for me, but Hearthstone can likely get away with lower, as there's so little on-screen motion.
2000 will give quite good image fidelity at 720@30 for average games, and at least decent fidelity for MMOs, FPSes, and such (Dark Souls would fall under the MMO category, as it's a third-person)

How much bitrate you need for a given resolution is mostly dependent on how much on-screen motion there is; moving a camera around in first/third person changes the whole screen, so is high-motion, whereas Hearthstone is pretty much a fixed image almost all the time, with some very basic and limited animations so needs almost none by comparison.
 
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