Question / Help 30fps vs 60fps bandwidth
- Thread starter woodyfly
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ThoNohT
Developer
Depends, if you don't use strict CBR, it might not utilize the full 2k bitrate.
But if your resolution is high enough, and enough is happening in the scene, or you are using CBR, it will be 2k bitrate regardless, and then there is no difference.
This is talking about bandwidth. It will be easier on the viewers's cpu/gpu.
But if your resolution is high enough, and enough is happening in the scene, or you are using CBR, it will be 2k bitrate regardless, and then there is no difference.
This is talking about bandwidth. It will be easier on the viewers's cpu/gpu.
ThoNohT
Developer
Probably not, as buffering is really related to bandwidth. What you could try to do is switch to another Twitch server, assuming you use Twitch. But you should look at your own dropped frames to see if there are any connection issues on your end.
You could provide a logfile so we can inspect your settings for you (viewtopic.php?f=18&t=97).
You could provide a logfile so we can inspect your settings for you (viewtopic.php?f=18&t=97).
ThoNohT said:
I don't drop any frames. I need some clarification on what CBR does. From what I understand, CBR allocates the specific amount of constant bitrate? So if I use 2k CBR, it doesn't matter if I use 20fps, 30fps or 60fps, it will stream at 2k bitrate no matter what?
Code:
04:17:22: Open Broadcaster Software v0.542b - 32bit (´・ω・｀)
04:17:22: -------------------------------
04:17:22: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz
04:17:22: CPU Speed: 3400MHz
04:17:22: Physical Memory: 4095MB Total, 4095MB Free
04:17:22: stepping id: 9, model 10, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
04:17:22: monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1680, 1050}
04:17:22: Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7600
04:17:22: Aero is Disabled
04:17:22: -------------------------------
04:17:22: OBS Modules:
04:17:22: Base Address Module
04:17:22: 00240000 OBS.exe
04:17:22: 68290000 OBSApi.dll
04:17:22: 69930000 DShowPlugin.dll
04:17:22: 698C0000 GraphicsCapture.dll
04:17:22: 698A0000 NoiseGate.dll
04:17:22: 69880000 PSVPlugin.dll
04:17:22: ------------------------------------------
04:17:22: Adapter 1
04:17:22: Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
04:17:22: Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1055072256
04:17:22: Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 4000292864
04:17:22: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 04:17:22===============================================
04:17:22: Multithreaded optimizations: On
04:17:22: Base resolution: 1280x720
04:17:22: Output resolution: 1280x720
04:17:22: ------------------------------------------
04:17:22: Loading up D3D10...
04:17:22: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
04:17:22: ------------------------------------------
04:17:22: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (SB Audigy)
04:17:22: Using 5.1 speaker setup
04:17:22: ------------------------------------------
04:17:22: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
04:17:22: ------------------------------------------
04:17:22: Audio Encoding: AAC
04:17:22: bitrate: 128
04:17:22: Using graphics capture
04:17:22: ------------------------------------------
04:17:22: Video Encoding: x264
04:17:22: fps: 60
04:17:22: width: 1280, height: 720
04:17:22: preset: veryfast
04:17:22: CBR: yes
04:17:22: CFR: no
04:17:22: max bitrate: 3000
04:17:22: ------------------------------------------
04:17:22: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:17:25: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:17:30: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:17:49: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:17:59: Total frames rendered: 2215, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
04:17:59: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 04:17:59=================================================
04:17:59: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 04:17:59===============================================
04:17:59: Multithreaded optimizations: On
04:17:59: Base resolution: 1280x720
04:17:59: Output resolution: 1280x720
04:17:59: ------------------------------------------
04:17:59: Loading up D3D10...
04:17:59: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
04:17:59: ------------------------------------------
04:17:59: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (SB Audigy)
04:17:59: Using 5.1 speaker setup
04:17:59: ------------------------------------------
04:17:59: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
04:17:59: ------------------------------------------
04:17:59: Audio Encoding: AAC
04:17:59: bitrate: 128
04:17:59: Using graphics capture
04:17:59: ------------------------------------------
04:17:59: Video Encoding: x264
04:17:59: fps: 60
04:17:59: width: 1280, height: 720
04:17:59: preset: veryfast
04:17:59: CBR: yes
04:17:59: CFR: no
04:17:59: max bitrate: 3000
04:17:59: ------------------------------------------
04:17:59: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:18:00: Total frames rendered: 76, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
04:18:00: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 04:18:00=================================================
04:18:01: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 04:18:01===============================================
04:18:01: Multithreaded optimizations: On
04:18:01: Base resolution: 1280x720
04:18:01: Output resolution: 1280x720
04:18:01: ------------------------------------------
04:18:01: Loading up D3D10...
04:18:01: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
04:18:01: ------------------------------------------
04:18:01: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (SB Audigy)
04:18:01: Using 5.1 speaker setup
04:18:01: ------------------------------------------
04:18:01: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
04:18:01: ------------------------------------------
04:18:01: Audio Encoding: AAC
04:18:01: bitrate: 128
04:18:01: Using graphics capture
04:18:01: ------------------------------------------
04:18:01: Video Encoding: x264
04:18:01: fps: 60
04:18:01: width: 1280, height: 720
04:18:01: preset: veryfast
04:18:01: CBR: yes
04:18:01: CFR: no
04:18:01: max bitrate: 3000
04:18:01: ------------------------------------------
04:18:01: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:18:01: Total frames rendered: 34, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
04:18:01: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 04:18:01=================================================
04:18:02: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 04:18:02===============================================
04:18:02: Multithreaded optimizations: On
04:18:02: Base resolution: 1280x720
04:18:02: Output resolution: 1280x720
04:18:02: ------------------------------------------
04:18:02: Loading up D3D10...
04:18:02: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
04:18:02: ------------------------------------------
04:18:02: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (SB Audigy)
04:18:02: Using 5.1 speaker setup
04:18:02: ------------------------------------------
04:18:02: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
04:18:02: ------------------------------------------
04:18:02: Audio Encoding: AAC
04:18:02: bitrate: 128
04:18:02: Using graphics capture
04:18:02: ------------------------------------------
04:18:02: Video Encoding: x264
04:18:02: fps: 60
04:18:02: width: 1280, height: 720
04:18:02: preset: veryfast
04:18:02: CBR: yes
04:18:02: CFR: no
04:18:02: max bitrate: 3000
04:18:02: ------------------------------------------
04:18:02: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:18:03: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
04:18:03: Server selection: rtmp://live-lax.justin.tv/app
04:18:04: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
04:18:04: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
04:18:10: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:18:18: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:18:51: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:21:13: Total frames rendered: 10985, number of frames that lagged: 108 (0.98%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
04:21:13: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
04:21:13: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
04:21:13: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
04:21:13: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 04:21:13=================================================
04:28:11: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 04:28:11===============================================
04:28:11: Multithreaded optimizations: On
04:28:11: Base resolution: 1152x720
04:28:11: Output resolution: 1152x720
04:28:11: ------------------------------------------
04:28:11: Loading up D3D10...
04:28:11: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
04:28:11: ------------------------------------------
04:28:11: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (SB Audigy)
04:28:11: Using 5.1 speaker setup
04:28:11: ------------------------------------------
04:28:11: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
04:28:11: ------------------------------------------
04:28:11: Audio Encoding: AAC
04:28:11: bitrate: 128
04:28:11: Using graphics capture
04:28:11: ------------------------------------------
04:28:11: Video Encoding: x264
04:28:11: fps: 60
04:28:11: width: 1152, height: 720
04:28:11: preset: veryfast
04:28:11: CBR: yes
04:28:11: CFR: no
04:28:11: max bitrate: 3000
04:28:11: ------------------------------------------
04:28:12: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:28:15: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:28:35: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:28:46: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:29:19: Total frames rendered: 4071, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
04:29:19: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 04:29:19=================================================
04:29:20: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 04:29:20===============================================
04:29:20: Multithreaded optimizations: On
04:29:20: Base resolution: 1152x720
04:29:20: Output resolution: 1152x720
04:29:20: ------------------------------------------
04:29:20: Loading up D3D10...
04:29:20: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
04:29:20: ------------------------------------------
04:29:20: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (SB Audigy)
04:29:20: Using 5.1 speaker setup
04:29:20: ------------------------------------------
04:29:20: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
04:29:20: ------------------------------------------
04:29:20: Audio Encoding: AAC
04:29:20: bitrate: 128
04:29:20: Using graphics capture
04:29:20: ------------------------------------------
04:29:20: Video Encoding: x264
04:29:20: fps: 60
04:29:20: width: 1152, height: 720
04:29:20: preset: veryfast
04:29:20: CBR: yes
04:29:20: CFR: no
04:29:20: max bitrate: 3000
04:29:20: ------------------------------------------
04:29:20: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:29:21: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
04:29:21: Server selection: rtmp://live-lax.justin.tv/app
04:29:22: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
04:29:22: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
04:30:06: Total frames rendered: 2765, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
04:30:06: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
04:30:06: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
04:30:06: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
04:30:06: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 04:30:06=================================================
04:31:22: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 04:31:22===============================================
04:31:22: Multithreaded optimizations: On
04:31:22: Base resolution: 1152x720
04:31:22: Output resolution: 1152x720
04:31:22: ------------------------------------------
04:31:22: Loading up D3D10...
04:31:22: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
04:31:22: ------------------------------------------
04:31:22: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (SB Audigy)
04:31:22: Using 5.1 speaker setup
04:31:22: ------------------------------------------
04:31:22: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
04:31:22: ------------------------------------------
04:31:22: Audio Encoding: AAC
04:31:22: bitrate: 128
04:31:22: Using graphics capture
04:31:22: ------------------------------------------
04:31:22: Video Encoding: x264
04:31:22: fps: 60
04:31:22: width: 1152, height: 720
04:31:22: preset: veryfast
04:31:22: CBR: yes
04:31:22: CFR: no
04:31:22: max bitrate: 3000
04:31:22: ------------------------------------------
04:31:22: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:31:23: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
04:31:23: Server selection: rtmp://live-lax.justin.tv/app
04:31:24: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
04:31:24: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
04:33:03: Total frames rendered: 6074, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
04:33:03: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
04:33:03: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
04:33:03: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
04:33:03: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 04:33:03=================================================
04:35:41: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 04:35:41===============================================
04:35:41: Multithreaded optimizations: On
04:35:41: Base resolution: 1280x720
04:35:41: Output resolution: 1280x720
04:35:41: ------------------------------------------
04:35:41: Loading up D3D10...
04:35:41: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
04:35:41: ------------------------------------------
04:35:41: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (SB Audigy)
04:35:41: Using 5.1 speaker setup
04:35:41: ------------------------------------------
04:35:41: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
04:35:41: ------------------------------------------
04:35:41: Audio Encoding: AAC
04:35:41: bitrate: 128
04:35:41: Using graphics capture
04:35:41: ------------------------------------------
04:35:41: Video Encoding: x264
04:35:41: fps: 60
04:35:41: width: 1280, height: 720
04:35:41: preset: veryfast
04:35:41: CBR: yes
04:35:41: CFR: no
04:35:41: max bitrate: 3000
04:35:41: ------------------------------------------
04:35:41: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:35:48: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:36:13: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:36:27: Total frames rendered: 2768, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
04:36:27: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 04:36:27=================================================
04:36:27: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 04:36:27===============================================
04:36:27: Multithreaded optimizations: On
04:36:27: Base resolution: 1280x720
04:36:27: Output resolution: 1280x720
04:36:27: ------------------------------------------
04:36:27: Loading up D3D10...
04:36:27: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
04:36:27: ------------------------------------------
04:36:27: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (SB Audigy)
04:36:27: Using 5.1 speaker setup
04:36:27: ------------------------------------------
04:36:27: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
04:36:27: ------------------------------------------
04:36:27: Audio Encoding: AAC
04:36:27: bitrate: 128
04:36:27: Using graphics capture
04:36:27: ------------------------------------------
04:36:27: Video Encoding: x264
04:36:27: fps: 60
04:36:27: width: 1280, height: 720
04:36:27: preset: veryfast
04:36:27: CBR: yes
04:36:27: CFR: no
04:36:27: max bitrate: 3000
04:36:27: ------------------------------------------
04:36:27: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:36:29: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
04:36:29: Server selection: rtmp://live-lax.justin.tv/app
04:36:30: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
04:36:30: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
04:37:42: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:38:11: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:39:25: Total frames rendered: 10565, number of frames that lagged: 36 (0.34%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
04:39:25: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
04:39:25: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
04:39:25: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
04:39:25: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 04:39:25=================================================
04:40:48: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 04:40:48===============================================
04:40:48: Multithreaded optimizations: On
04:40:48: Base resolution: 1280x720
04:40:48: Output resolution: 1280x720
04:40:48: ------------------------------------------
04:40:48: Loading up D3D10...
04:40:48: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
04:40:48: ------------------------------------------
04:40:48: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (SB Audigy)
04:40:48: Using 5.1 speaker setup
04:40:48: ------------------------------------------
04:40:48: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
04:40:48: ------------------------------------------
04:40:48: Audio Encoding: AAC
04:40:48: bitrate: 128
04:40:48: Using graphics capture
04:40:48: ------------------------------------------
04:40:48: Video Encoding: x264
04:40:48: fps: 60
04:40:48: width: 1280, height: 720
04:40:48: preset: veryfast
04:40:48: CBR: yes
04:40:48: CFR: no
04:40:48: max bitrate: 3000
04:40:48: ------------------------------------------
04:40:48: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:40:51: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:41:07: Total frames rendered: 1148, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
04:41:07: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 04:41:07=================================================
04:41:07: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 04:41:07===============================================
04:41:07: Multithreaded optimizations: On
04:41:07: Base resolution: 1280x720
04:41:07: Output resolution: 1280x720
04:41:07: ------------------------------------------
04:41:07: Loading up D3D10...
04:41:07: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
04:41:07: ------------------------------------------
04:41:07: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (SB Audigy)
04:41:07: Using 5.1 speaker setup
04:41:07: ------------------------------------------
04:41:07: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
04:41:07: ------------------------------------------
04:41:07: Audio Encoding: AAC
04:41:07: bitrate: 128
04:41:07: Using graphics capture
04:41:07: ------------------------------------------
04:41:07: Video Encoding: x264
04:41:07: fps: 60
04:41:07: width: 1280, height: 720
04:41:07: preset: veryfast
04:41:07: CBR: yes
04:41:07: CFR: no
04:41:07: max bitrate: 3000
04:41:07: ------------------------------------------
04:41:07: SharedTexCapture hooked
04:41:09: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
04:41:09: Server selection: rtmp://live-lax.justin.tv/app
04:41:09: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
04:41:09: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
04:56:51: Total frames rendered: 56581, number of frames that lagged: 1 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
04:56:51: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
04:56:51: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
04:56:51: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
04:56:51: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 04:56:51=================================================
05:00:29: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 05:00:29===============================================
05:00:29: Multithreaded optimizations: On
05:00:29: Base resolution: 1280x720
05:00:29: Output resolution: 1280x720
05:00:29: ------------------------------------------
05:00:29: Loading up D3D10...
05:00:29: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
05:00:29: ------------------------------------------
05:00:29: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (SB Audigy)
05:00:29: Using 5.1 speaker setup
05:00:29: ------------------------------------------
05:00:29: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
05:00:29: ------------------------------------------
05:00:29: Audio Encoding: AAC
05:00:29: bitrate: 128
05:00:29: Using graphics capture
05:00:29: ------------------------------------------
05:00:29: Video Encoding: x264
05:00:29: fps: 60
05:00:29: width: 1280, height: 720
05:00:29: preset: veryfast
05:00:29: CBR: yes
05:00:29: CFR: no
05:00:29: max bitrate: 3000
05:00:29: ------------------------------------------
05:00:29: SharedTexCapture hooked
05:00:30: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
05:00:30: Server selection: rtmp://live-lax.justin.tv/app
05:00:31: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
05:00:31: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
05:05:58: Total frames rendered: 19674, number of frames that lagged: 10 (0.05%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
05:05:58: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
05:05:58: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
05:05:58: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
05:05:58: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 05:05:58=================================================
05:14:24: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 05:14:24===============================================
05:14:24: Multithreaded optimizations: On
05:14:24: Base resolution: 1280x720
05:14:24: Output resolution: 1280x720
05:14:24: ------------------------------------------
05:14:24: Loading up D3D10...
05:14:24: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
05:14:24: ------------------------------------------
05:14:24: Using desktop audio input: Speakers (SB Audigy)
05:14:24: Using 5.1 speaker setup
05:14:24: ------------------------------------------
05:14:24: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
05:14:24: ------------------------------------------
05:14:24: Audio Encoding: AAC
05:14:24: bitrate: 128
05:14:24: Using graphics capture
05:14:24: ------------------------------------------
05:14:24: Video Encoding: x264
05:14:24: fps: 60
05:14:24: width: 1280, height: 720
05:14:24: preset: veryfast
05:14:24: CBR: yes
05:14:24: CFR: no
05:14:24: max bitrate: 3000
05:14:24: ------------------------------------------
05:14:24: SharedTexCapture hooked
05:14:25: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
05:14:25: Server selection: rtmp://live-lax.justin.tv/app
05:14:26: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
05:14:26: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
05:20:22: Total frames rendered: 21488, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
05:20:22: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
05:20:22: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
05:20:22: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
05:20:22: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 05:20:22=================================================
05:22:20: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-09, 05:22:20===============================================
05:22:20: Multithreaded optimizations: On
05:22:20: Base resolution: 1280x720
05:22:20: Output resolution: 1280x720
05:22:20: ------------------------------------------
05:22:20: Loading up D3D10...
05:22:20: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{131438c1-6a16-4108-b90e-e03d264c038d}
05:22:20: ------------------------------------------
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05:22:20: bitrate: 128
05:22:20: Using graphics capture
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05:22:20: width: 1280, height: 720
05:22:20: preset: veryfast
05:22:20: CBR: yes
05:22:20: CFR: no
05:22:20: max bitrate: 3000
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05:22:21: Total frames rendered: 55, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
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05:23:00: Multithreaded optimizations: On
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05:23:00: bitrate: 128
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05:23:00: width: 1156, height: 720
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05:23:05: SharedTexCapture hooked
05:23:28: Total frames rendered: 1668, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
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05:23:28: bitrate: 128
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05:23:28: fps: 60
05:23:28: width: 552, height: 720
05:23:28: preset: veryfast
05:23:28: CBR: yes
05:23:28: CFR: no
05:23:28: max bitrate: 3000
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05:23:36: Multithreaded optimizations: On
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05:23:36: bitrate: 128
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05:23:36: fps: 60
05:23:36: width: 1552, height: 720
05:23:36: preset: veryfast
05:23:36: CBR: yes
05:23:36: CFR: no
05:23:36: max bitrate: 3000
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05:23:48: bitrate: 128
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05:23:48: fps: 60
05:23:48: width: 1152, height: 720
05:23:48: preset: veryfast
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05:23:48: max bitrate: 3000
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05:23:52: SharedTexCapture hooked
05:23:56: SharedTexCapture hooked
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05:24:02: Using 5.1 speaker setup
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05:24:02: bitrate: 128
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05:24:02: fps: 60
05:24:02: width: 1152, height: 720
05:24:02: preset: veryfast
05:24:02: CBR: yes
05:24:02: CFR: no
05:24:02: max bitrate: 3000
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05:24:02: SharedTexCapture hooked
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05:24:04: Multithreaded optimizations: On
05:24:04: Base resolution: 1152x720
05:24:04: Output resolution: 1152x720
05:24:04: ------------------------------------------
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05:24:04: Using 5.1 speaker setup
05:24:04: ------------------------------------------
05:24:04: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (SB Audigy)
05:24:04: ------------------------------------------
05:24:04: Audio Encoding: AAC
05:24:04: bitrate: 128
05:24:04: Using graphics capture
05:24:05: ------------------------------------------
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05:24:05: fps: 60
05:24:05: width: 1152, height: 720
05:24:05: preset: veryfast
05:24:05: CBR: yes
05:24:05: CFR: no
05:24:05: max bitrate: 3000
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05:24:06: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
05:24:06: Server selection: rtmp://live-lax.justin.tv/app
05:24:07: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
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05:26:13: =====Stream End: 2013-08-09, 05:26:13=================================================ThoNohT
Developer
Depending on if you have CBR padding enabled or not, yes indeed. Padding is on by default, you typically shouldn't touch it. With padding, it will just add random data until it reaches the set bitrate, without padding, it might drop below if you don't need as much.
Judging from your log, everything is fine on your end, no frames dropping, no frames lagging. I do miss the profiler results at the end of the log, so I can't say much about that, but I don't think it's going to be a problem, not with your CPU.
You are using 3000kbps CBR though, that might be to much for viewers with a slow internet connection, so I'm thinking the lag problems are on their end. The only way you' re going to solve that is by decreasing the bitrate. And if that makes the stream pixelated, you might want to consider dropping the resolution as well.
Judging from your log, everything is fine on your end, no frames dropping, no frames lagging. I do miss the profiler results at the end of the log, so I can't say much about that, but I don't think it's going to be a problem, not with your CPU.
You are using 3000kbps CBR though, that might be to much for viewers with a slow internet connection, so I'm thinking the lag problems are on their end. The only way you' re going to solve that is by decreasing the bitrate. And if that makes the stream pixelated, you might want to consider dropping the resolution as well.
DeezjaVu
Member
First thing you should drop is the framerate before anything else. IMO streaming at 60fps is pointless, because compared to 30fps you're basically reducing the bits per frame by half (using the same bitrate).
720p @30fps with 3000 kbps gives you 0.109 bpp (bits per pixel).
720p @60fps with 3000 kbps gives you half of that: 0.054 bpp
The formula to obtain the above (with bitrate in kbps):
(bitrate * 1000) / (width * height * fps) = bits per pixel
As explained in this thread as well: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6569
increasing framerate will pretty much lower the stream quality if you don't increase the bitrate with it, or in other words, if you'd want to maintain the same bits per pixel quality between 30fps and 60fps, you'd have to double the bitrate.
720p @30fps with 3000 kbps gives you 0.109 bpp (bits per pixel).
720p @60fps with 3000 kbps gives you half of that: 0.054 bpp
The formula to obtain the above (with bitrate in kbps):
(bitrate * 1000) / (width * height * fps) = bits per pixel
As explained in this thread as well: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6569
increasing framerate will pretty much lower the stream quality if you don't increase the bitrate with it, or in other words, if you'd want to maintain the same bits per pixel quality between 30fps and 60fps, you'd have to double the bitrate.
BlockAboots
Member
ThoNohT said:
So whats the point of CBR padding then, if its going to constantly use the full bitrate you set, surely its better for your connection if OBS only uses what it needs rather than adding false data to make up the full bitrate you set??
Actually, no, it's worse. It's better for OBS to be sending out a stream that is a constant bit rate that changes size as little as possible. If your bitrate demands are fluctuating all the time depending on what you are streaming, then the instability caused by these fluctuations actually causes more frame drops and a worse experience for the viewer. Fluctuating bit rates like that make it harder to watch, not easier. So the point of CBR is to keep the amount of data that you download constant, even if some of it is "wasted" so that you avoid bit rate spikes and have a better viewing experience. It's just a fact of the way the internet works.
BlockAboots
Member
ThoNohT said:
So in this instance viewers would need a download speed of 3000kbps to watch the stream without pauses if selecting 'source' as the viewing quality?
Yes, 3000kbps download minimum. Probably more, since download speed fluctuate, and usually people use their internet connections to download lots of other things at the same time (IM clients, mobile phones on WiFi, other people on the network connect, etc.). And even then, they have to have a solid connection to the server they are downloading from. So there's a lot that can go wrong.