Question / Help 2nd PC to stream and 1st pc to game need info!

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frostyshield

Member
Ok so my current broadband is 150Mbps Down, 15Mbps UP and my spec I currently have is here:

i7 5820K CPU
16GB DDR4 2133Mhz Ram
970 GPU

and I am building a 2nd pc to stream to which will also be my file server to host films/music/recorded videos so I am wondering what spec I can bump it up too to get it so I can stream at either 720P60 or 1080P30-60 at slow or slower, here is the spec I am thinking of getting including hard drives and can you tell me if this will work perfectly for what I am wanting :)

i7 4790K OC'D to 4.2Ghz
16GB DDR3 1333Mhz Ram
internal GPU or should I get a cheap GPU?!?!
1 120GB SSD (OS)
6 4TB HDD's Raid 10
 
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eldiablo

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if you're dropping that kinda loot for a multi-purpose box, I would tone down the specs and do a dedicated file/media server and a dedicated stream pc. Why put all your eggs into one basket? I know this is a mindset kind of scenario, but I have had great success with my current setup.

Both can be done relatively cheap.

My setup (and has worked excellent for the last 2 months streaming every day 5+hours...seriously, I mean this.)

Gaming rig:
  • CPU: i7 3930k @ 4.63GHz (mmmm dat OC)
  • MOBO: Intel DX79SI (disco'd =/ )
  • RAM: 16GB HyperX DDR3 @ 1600Mhz
  • GPU: MSI 660Ti PE
  • Drive1: 128GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD (OS)
  • Drive2: 256GB Intel 520 SSD (steam)
  • Drive3: 2TB WD Caviar Black (porn)
  • Sound: Asus Xonar DG
  • PSU: PC Air and Cooling 750watt Silencer
  • Headset: Steel Series Siberia V2 (thanks nip!)
  • Mouse: Razer Death Adder / Logitech G400s
  • Monitor: Asus 24" 144Hz VG248QE (oh gawd...such sex)
  • Cooling: Corsair H80i (keeps cpu around 50c)
  • Cap Card: Avermedia C985 LGHD
  • Mousepad: Plastic Thing I Put a Steel Series Sticker On(i seriously have no idea wtf this thing is)

Capture PC:

  • CPU: i3 4340 3.6GHz (haven't had any issues yet, but would recommend bumping up to an i5)
  • RAM: 4GB HyperX DDR3 @ 1600Mhz
  • GPU: MSI 660Ti PE
  • Drive1: 40GB Intel SSD (old old ssd from intel)
  • PSU: PC Air and Cooling 750watt Silencer (overkill)
  • Cap Card: Avermedia C985 LGHD

File/media Server:

I had an old dell PC with a dual core CPU and 2GB ram.
I tossed in a cheap raid card and 4x2TB Caviar Western Digital Cav Blacks.
Put in a quality 1Gbps Intel Pro nic.

Boots FreeNas from a thumbdrive.

Been running flawlessly for 3 years+ now.
Very happy with my setup.
 
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alpinlol

Active Member
eldiablo said:
Capture PC:

  • CPU: i3 4340 3.6GHz (haven't had any issues yet, but would recommend bumping up to an i5)
  • RAM: 4GB HyperX DDR3 @ 1600Mhz
  • GPU: MSI 660Ti PE
  • Drive1: 40GB Intel SSD (old old ssd from intel)
  • PSU: PC Air and Cooling 750watt Silencer (overkill)
  • Cap Card: Avermedia C985 LGHD
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problem here is that the i3 is not even near the power of doing 720p60 on fast preset probably as dedicated streaming machine and he is aiming for slow or even slower

1080p60 on slow is probably impossible so far except you spent actually money but that would be one cpu with the costs of your whole system and even more

720p60 on medium should be working on the 4790k as dedicated streaming machine but theres never any guarantee
 
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eldiablo

Member
^The C985 cap card takes most load off of the cpu. works great for 720p30 on fastest preset. anything above 720p30 - definitely get an i5+

Here is a highlight from one of my past broadcasts with setup stated above.
720p30fps fastest encoding x264 @ 2100kbps upload
NSFW clip from Rust. Pixel Penis
http://www.twitch.tv/eldiablo_tv/c/5379159
 
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alpinlol

Active Member
eldiablo said:
^The C985 cap card takes most load off of the cpu. works great for 720p30 on fastest preset. anything above 720p30 - definitely get an i5+

Here is a highlight from one of my past broadcasts with setup stated above.
720p30fps fastest encoding x264 @ 2100kbps upload
NSFW clip from Rust. Pixel Penis
http://www.twitch.tv/eldiablo_tv/c/5379159
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i dont think you understand what a capture card actually does in a 2 pc setup

either your capture card has an buildin encoder and is using the capture cards software to stream or the capture card just captures the screen puts it through and lets the streaming machine encodes everything its 1:1 the same just with the bonus that the streaming pc doesnt do anything else than encoding, pretty much
 
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LKNim

New Member
eldiablo said:
if you're dropping that kinda loot for a multi-purpose box, I would tone down the specs and do a dedicated file/media server and a dedicated stream pc. Why put all your eggs into one basket? I know this is a mindset kind of scenario, but I have had great success with my current setup.

Both can be done relatively cheap.

My setup (and has worked excellent for the last 2 months streaming every day 5+hours...seriously, I mean this.)

Gaming rig:
  • CPU: i7 3930k @ 4.63GHz (mmmm dat OC)
  • MOBO: Intel DX79SI (disco'd =/ )
  • RAM: 16GB HyperX DDR3 @ 1600Mhz
  • GPU: MSI 660Ti PE
  • Drive1: 128GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD (OS)
  • Drive2: 256GB Intel 520 SSD (steam)
  • Drive3: 2TB WD Caviar Black (porn)
  • Sound: Asus Xonar DG
  • PSU: PC Air and Cooling 750watt Silencer
  • Headset: Steel Series Siberia V2 (thanks nip!)
  • Mouse: Razer Death Adder / Logitech G400s
  • Monitor: Asus 24" 144Hz VG248QE (oh gawd...such sex)
  • Cooling: Corsair H80i (keeps cpu around 50c)
  • Cap Card: Avermedia C985 LGHD
  • Mousepad: Plastic Thing I Put a Steel Series Sticker On(i seriously have no idea wtf this thing is)

Capture PC:

  • CPU: i3 4340 3.6GHz (haven't had any issues yet, but would recommend bumping up to an i5)
  • RAM: 4GB HyperX DDR3 @ 1600Mhz
  • GPU: MSI 660Ti PE
  • Drive1: 40GB Intel SSD (old old ssd from intel)
  • PSU: PC Air and Cooling 750watt Silencer (overkill)
  • Cap Card: Avermedia C985 LGHD

File/media Server:

I had an old dell PC with a dual core CPU and 2GB ram.
I tossed in a cheap raid card and 4x2TB Caviar Western Digital Cav Blacks.
Put in a quality 1Gbps Intel Pro nic.

Boots FreeNas from a thumbdrive.

Been running flawlessly for 3 years+ now.
Very happy with my setup.
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I'm going to the same thing, dedicated game PC + dedicated stream PC
If I don't change those encode presets for quality, just run default.
1. What resolution and fps can a i3 Haswell do? For record/stream can it go 1080p?
2. Is a display card necessary if it's a dedicated stream PC
 
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eldiablo

Member
frostyshield said:
Did you not read I already have the i7 5820K setup? All I need is the parts for the capture pc.
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I think there is a breakdown in communication here.
But I don't have enough ''try'' in me to fix.
I'll show myself out. *abandons ship*
 
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Jack0r

Jack0r

The Helping Squad
The "slow" preset is not really something you should think about. Even on dual Xeons there is a limitation in how far x264 can use threading. In general, I would recommend to put the more powerful CPU into the PC that will do the encoding. Depending on the content, that 5820 might be able to do medium on 1080p at 30 or 60 fps, but I cant guarantee it.

An SSD will only help you boot the streaming PC faster. The RAM could be useful for a fileserver, but I am not sure if 16gb are needed for that. They will not help with streaming.

Last but not least, while the streaming PC puts all his power into encoding, it might not be the best to have it also serve as a fileserver. It will work, but a dedicated fileserver could be a better choice.
 
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frostyshield

Member
Jack0r said:
The "slow" preset is not really something you should think about. Even on dual Xeons there is a limitation in how far x264 can use threading. In general, I would recommend to put the more powerful CPU into the PC that will do the encoding. Depending on the content, that 5820 might be able to do medium on 1080p at 30 or 60 fps, but I cant guarantee it.

An SSD will only help you boot the streaming PC faster. The RAM could be useful for a fileserver, but I am not sure if 16gb are needed for that. They will not help with streaming.

Last but not least, while the streaming PC puts all his power into encoding, it might not be the best to have it also serve as a fileserver. It will work, but a dedicated fileserver could be a better choice.
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The SSD is only because I have an SSD spare same for the RAM, I just want the best quality if thats 720P its fine :)
 
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frostyshield

Member
A dedicated file server would offer no advantages to me so I dont see why seperating a file/storage server with a streaming PC besides transfering 100GB every few days and streaming 1 film to a TV every 1-3 days.
 
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