Question / Help Wierd problem :(

Jonatone · Apr 7, 2013

Hey everyone, so I have a problem. I stream a lot and my upload and download is very great. My upload is usually around 10mb/s and download is 50mb/s. I only have my bitrate on my stream set to 1000kb/s but yet my stream still lags :\. I'm not sure what the problem is. I'm pretty sure my computer can handle it fine because I just upgraded my graphics card and ram.
If anyone can help me it's greatly appreciated.

-Jon

Code:

Open Broadcaster Software v0.472b - 32bit (´・ω・｀)
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CPU Name: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor
CPU Speed: 3400MHz
Physical Memory:  4095MB Total, 4095MB Free
stepping id: 3, model 4, family 15, type 0, extmodel 8, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
monitor 2: pos={1920, 0}, size={1680, 1050}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7600 
Aero is Disabled
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Adapter 1
  Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1020985344
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3221221376
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
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Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
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Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Plantronics GameCom 780)
Using 5.1 surround speaker setup
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Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Plantronics GameCom 780)
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Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 256
Using graphics capture
Using Monitor Capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast FastShuffle SSEMisalign LZCNT
x264: profile High, level 4.2
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Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 40
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: superfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 1000
    buffer size: 1500
    quality: 7
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Total frames rendered: 57, number of frames that lagged: 9 (15.79%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
x264: frame I:1     Avg QP:19.01  size: 67717
x264: frame P:6     Avg QP:17.58  size:  3554
x264: frame B:15    Avg QP:17.93  size:   408
x264: consecutive B-frames:  4.0%  0.0%  0.0% 96.0%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 29.0% 57.9% 13.1%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  1.0%  0.1%  0.1%  P16..4: 10.6%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:88.2%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  B16..8:  0.5%  0.0%  0.0%  direct: 2.1%  skip:97.3%  L0: 7.8% L1:92.2% BI: 0.0%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:54.7% inter:13.7%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 49.8% 37.3% 16.6% inter: 0.5% 2.9% 0.0%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 40% 40% 16%  4%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 15% 20% 27%  4%  8%  6%  7%  4%  9%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 36% 32% 15%  2%  4%  2%  3%  2%  3%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 55% 26% 16%  4%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.0% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:1340.23
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
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Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
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Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Plantronics GameCom 780)
Using 5.1 surround speaker setup
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Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Plantronics GameCom 780)
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Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 256
Using graphics capture
Using Monitor Capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast FastShuffle SSEMisalign LZCNT
x264: profile High, level 4.2
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Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 40
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: superfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 1000
    buffer size: 1500
    quality: 7
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Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-iad-backup.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 2748, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 3248
Total frames rendered: 773, number of frames that lagged: 404 (52.26%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
x264: frame I:6     Avg QP:31.22  size: 55007
x264: frame P:284   Avg QP:29.44  size:  6234
x264: frame B:448   Avg QP:20.60  size:   867
x264: consecutive B-frames: 16.1%  8.1%  2.0% 73.7%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 46.7% 42.4% 10.9%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  8.1%  3.6%  0.1%  P16..4: 10.8%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:77.4%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.2%  0.0%  0.0%  B16..8:  2.2%  0.0%  0.0%  direct: 2.5%  skip:95.1%  L0:30.7% L1:69.0% BI: 0.3%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:31.9% inter:13.1%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 14.9% 21.1% 8.5% inter: 1.1% 2.8% 0.2%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 44% 37% 13%  6%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 12% 16% 39%  6%  6%  4%  5%  3%  9%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 32% 32% 17%  3%  4%  3%  3%  2%  4%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 66% 22% 11%  1%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.0% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:881.44
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
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Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
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Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Plantronics GameCom 780)
Using 5.1 surround speaker setup
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Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Plantronics GameCom 780)
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Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 256
Using graphics capture
Using Monitor Capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast FastShuffle SSEMisalign LZCNT
x264: profile High, level 4.2
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Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 40
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: superfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 1000
    buffer size: 1500
    quality: 10
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Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-iad-backup.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 2756, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 3256
Using graphics capture
using memory capture
Warning -- MMDeviceAudioSource::GetBuffer: GetNextPacketSize failed, result = 88890004
Total frames rendered: 21307, number of frames that lagged: 18523 (86.93%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
x264: frame I:109   Avg QP:33.61  size: 38116
x264: frame P:9561  Avg QP:31.37  size:  7914
x264: frame B:11603 Avg QP:23.05  size:  1548
x264: consecutive B-frames: 23.3% 10.4%  4.2% 62.0%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 64.1% 29.9%  6.0%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  8.2%  3.8%  0.1%  P16..4: 12.5%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:75.4%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.4%  0.2%  0.0%  B16..8:  4.4%  0.0%  0.0%  direct: 2.8%  skip:92.3%  L0:32.6% L1:66.6% BI: 0.8%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:31.0% inter:18.0%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 14.3% 16.0% 5.2% inter: 1.7% 2.8% 0.3%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 47% 37% 11%  5%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 12% 20% 36%  6%  5%  4%  5%  3%  9%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 33% 29% 18%  3%  5%  3%  3%  2%  4%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 65% 22% 11%  2%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.1% UV:0.1%
x264: kb/s:952.67
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
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Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
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Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Plantronics GameCom 780)
Using 5.1 surround speaker setup
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Plantronics GameCom 780)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 256
Using graphics capture
Using Monitor Capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast FastShuffle SSEMisalign LZCNT
x264: profile High, level 4.2
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Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 40
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: superfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 1000
    buffer size: 1500
    quality: 10
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using memory capture
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-iad-backup.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 2480, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 2980
Total frames rendered: 73707, number of frames that lagged: 72501 (98.36%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
x264: frame I:496   Avg QP:39.51  size: 21869
x264: frame P:42465 Avg QP:35.24  size:  8131
x264: frame B:30712 Avg QP:26.45  size:  1760
x264: consecutive B-frames: 38.4% 16.5%  4.6% 40.5%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 75.6% 22.1%  2.3%
x264: mb P  I16..4: 13.4%  5.6%  0.1%  P16..4: 11.4%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:69.5%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.8%  0.3%  0.0%  B16..8:  5.5%  0.0%  0.0%  direct: 2.5%  skip:90.9%  L0:34.9% L1:64.3% BI: 0.7%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:28.9% inter:21.1%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 11.1% 15.8% 5.7% inter: 1.7% 3.0% 0.2%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 51% 33% 11%  5%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 12% 19% 38%  6%  5%  4%  5%  3%  8%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 35% 29% 20%  3%  4%  2%  2%  1%  4%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 71% 18% 10%  1%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.3% UV:0.2%
x264: kb/s:967.87
=====Stream End=======================================================================

Profiler results:

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frame - [100%] [avg time: 44.034 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 86%] [unaccounted: 14%]
| scene->Preprocess - [58%] [avg time: 25.524 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [28%] [avg time: 12.348 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 16.5%] [unaccounted: 11.5%]
| | CopyResource - [0.164%] [avg time: 0.072 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.833%] [avg time: 0.367 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [15.4%] [avg time: 6.802 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.0908%] [avg time: 0.04 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================

Helixia · Apr 7, 2013

You can try downscale to 720p and turn windows aero off.
What you can also do is to use cbr and increase your bitrate something like 2000.

Jonatone · Apr 7, 2013

Kk, gonna try that now, you mean my max bitrate right?

R1CH · Apr 7, 2013

Your problem seems to be you have slow sources (a high scene->preprocess time). Try to reduce sources or lower the stage resolution.

Dariofubar · Apr 8, 2013

A friend had similar problems with the same cpu and i can tell you that the 965be is not strong enough to stream at 1080p. Lower it to 720p and you should be fine!

You should also consider overclocking your cpu (it is a Black edition afterall so it is fairly easy) to provide more power for gaming/streaming.

My buddy overclocked his BE to 4.5 without problems and everything was much smoother while streaming at 720p.

proland1337 · Apr 10, 2013

Dariofubar said:
A friend had similar problems with the same cpu and i can tell you that the 965be is not strong enough to stream at 1080p. Lower it to 720p and you should be fine!

You should also consider overclocking your cpu (it is a Black edition afterall so it is fairly easy) to provide more power for gaming/streaming.

My buddy overclocked his BE to 4.5 without problems and everything was much smoother while streaming at 720p.

I stream 1080 without downscale at 30fps smooth on i5 2320 ( 0 frames drop , 100Mbit / 15-25Mbit) , soo I kinda disagree with your opinion .
IT might be type of game , graphic settings , even slow hard drives ect . Ofc I could be wrong but like I said i5 2320 and 1080 .

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