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[crestofawave]

hi guys, hope someone can help.
was trying as more of proof of concept with my phone using vdo.ninja, obviously video was not great, but i need a good video camera which could connect to OBS, via a web link for example.
the problem as new to this is i need to video a sporting event outside, away from the computer that has wifi, so it wont be on the same network so as learning how to do this im a bit unsure, thank you for your time

 

[AaronD]

Anything wireless is likely to be a headache. Always run a wire if at all possible, even if it's a pain. You have no idea when a misbehaving device is going to get on the same WiFi channel (not necessarily even the same network, just the same radio frequency is enough), and wreck your signal.

That said, I do use the IP Webcam app on an old android phone for a low-priority camera...but it IS low-priority! I don't NEED it at all, so if it becomes unusable, that's perfectly okay.

IP Webcam - Apps on Google Play

Turn your phone into a wireless camera!

play.google.com

My main cameras and my internet are all wired.

 

[crestofawave]

i wish i could run a lan cable, trouble is the van where wifi is, let say is in a carpark, i need around 5/800 meters away!
basically trying to... in the end stream our events, at first, just get a screen with a point playing on it

 

[AaronD]

Does it have to be live?

If so, then you're looking at the same problems that are typically only solved *well* by the big-name broadcasters, and so the gear to do that is still expensive and probably has its own special place in the FCC's rules (or whatever your regulatory agency is), so it's literally illegal for anyone else to make or use a device that might possibly interfere with it.
You might try to make something work with consumer gear, but you should fully expect to be knocked off, garbled, or whatever, by some guy with a junk phone, who has no idea that that's even happening.

If not, then it's MUCH more reliable to record it well, and then post-produce it at home.

 

[crestofawave]

mmm, i tried as said with a phone and walked down our lane, using ninja, with ok wifi it worked, but i needed better quality hence was looking for a hd wifi camera that i could use with ninja.
if i went the lan route, can that be used with OBS input?
thank you for your help here :)

 

[Tomasz Góral]

Hard problem's, i use:
- phone or camera
- bonding with minimum 4 LTE modems
- for camera you can use hardware encoder or build own buy gc311 , this grabber compress hdmi signal h.264 (15 Mb/s) or MJPEG (70 Mb/s) connect to raspberry pi and send via bonding, all powered by powerbank.
4 modems give me upload to send h.264 signal.

 

[AaronD]

if i went the lan route, can that be used with OBS input?

The operating system handles the difference between Cat-5 and radio networking. By the time an app sees it, it's just a network, period. Everything works the same either way as far as any app is concerned.

But there's a HUGE difference between a quiet street and a spectator sporting event! The street will probably work just fine, but the crowd of people to watch the game, and all of the devices in their pockets, creates a radio shouting match that you will likely *not* overcome.

 

[crestofawave]

ok, thank you for your reply's, to address some of it, the location for a camera will mostly be away from most if not all spectators, so hoping that will mitigate some noise.
i hjave had today a lot of luck using a gopro connected by app, then live streamed via rtmp.
thats been only in the house, so my question is, i use a rtmp ip in the van, take camera to where its being used with a phone next to it for the app to run and turn on hotspot, willl this then pick up the available net and stream back to the pc?
couldnt get out today to try
just a thanks again for the help :)

 

[AaronD]

ok, thank you for your reply's, to address some of it, the location for a camera will mostly be away from most if not all spectators, so hoping that will mitigate some noise.

Radio goes a lot farther than you think it does. That includes the radio noise that you have to overcome. Unless you have something physical to block it, which would also block your own signal, you probably still have to deal with it, even if the world in visible light looks like you're far away.

i hjave had today a lot of luck using a gopro connected by app, then live streamed via rtmp.
thats been only in the house, so my question is, i use a rtmp ip in the van, take camera to where its being used with a phone next to it for the app to run and turn on hotspot, willl this then pick up the available net and stream back to the pc?

Depending on where you or your friends live and what the professional sports teams have done recently (party in the street...), you may or may not remember stories of it taking 3 hours just to get a single text message. Good luck getting *video* through that congested mess!

Your venue might not have *that* many people in it, but it's definitely headed in that direction.

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If you insist on doing it anyway, you can give it a shot, but I would fully expect anything wireless at all, that is accessible to essentially a hobbyist budget, to fall flat on its face, try to work, but never be usable. So you'll just waste your time chasing something that promises to work, but never does for long enough to be worth anything.

If you must use radio in that environment, then you need to use the expensive, purpose-designed gear that requires its own license to use, in which case you probably know enough to not ask about it here. :-)

 

[crestofawave]

arghh, it seems impossible then for someone without tons of money to do this.
seems mad i can live stream from my phone to a social media platform, but cant get that first to my laptop and a screen.
the vlc/rmtp/obs worked fine on the same network, but when the gopro and hotspot when outside further away it just reported wrong url, even though its right, shame this will end up a non starter, thanks anyway

 

[AaronD]

seems mad i can live stream from my phone to a social media platform, but cant get that first to my laptop and a screen.

If you're on the same reliable network with little interference, then the app that I linked to at first will do that. I use it in my home studio and in a church rig, both as secondary cameras that are okay to lose without warning. The primary cameras in both rigs are all wired.