Question / Help When streaming game doesnt look smooth, seems a little chopy

kigqa

New Member
Alright. I recently bought a Avermedia Live Gamer HD just to lessen the cpu usage and possibly use 1080p so my quality gets better. But everytime i stream even at 720p it looks kinda choppy, it doesnt seem smooth. Ive tried dropping the bitrate and such by half just to see if that makes it any better and such but still looks the same.

CPU Specs:
i7 3770k @3.50
ASrock z77 lga 1155
16GB Ram
Avermedia Live Gamer HD capture card
GTX 660 TI 3GB

OBS Settings:
2500 Max Bitrate
2500 Buffer Size
CBR On
1280x720p at 60FPS(also tried 30)
Multithread Optimizations On
Process Priority Class : Normal
x64 CPU Preset : superfast (also tried changing this to fast > ultrafast)

My latest OBS Log...


22:21:24: Open Broadcaster Software v0.552b - 64bit ( ^ω^)
22:21:24: -------------------------------
22:21:24: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
22:21:24: CPU Speed: 3500MHz
22:21:24: Physical Memory: 14231MB Total, 11249MB Free
22:21:24: stepping id: 9, model 10, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
22:21:24: monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
22:21:24: monitor 2: pos={1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
22:21:24: Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7600
22:21:24: Aero is Disabled
22:21:24: -------------------------------
22:21:24: OBS Modules:
22:21:24: Base Address Module
22:21:24: 000000003F730000 OBS.exe
22:21:24: 00000000F40D0000 OBSApi.dll
22:21:24: 00000000F43B0000 DShowPlugin.dll
22:21:24: 00000000F6190000 GraphicsCapture.dll
22:21:24: 00000000F6170000 NoiseGate.dll
22:21:24: 00000000F6150000 PSVPlugin.dll
22:21:24: ------------------------------------------
22:21:24: Adapter 1
22:21:24: Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti
22:21:24: Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 3162177536
22:21:24: Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 2897743872
22:21:24: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-21, 22:21:24===============================================
22:21:24: Multithreaded optimizations: On
22:21:24: Base resolution: 1280x720
22:21:24: Output resolution: 1280x720
22:21:24: ------------------------------------------
22:21:24: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti...
22:21:25: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{da676458-ec8e-4d2f-977a-1a4d50e404bf}
22:21:25: ------------------------------------------
22:21:25: Using desktop audio input: Razer Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)
22:21:25: ------------------------------------------
22:21:25: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (2- Producer USB)
22:21:25: ------------------------------------------
22:21:25: Audio Encoding: AAC
22:21:25: bitrate: 128
22:21:25: ------------------------------------------
22:21:25: device: AVerMedia HD Capture C985 Bus 6,
22:21:25: device id \\?\pci#ven_1af2&dev_a001&subsys_a0011af2&rev_00#4&443610c&0&00e6#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{957bd672-7934-4b55-b81a-3e22b14c679a},
22:21:25: chosen type: YV12, usingFourCC: true, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, frameIntervals: 166666-666666, fourCC: 'YV12'
22:21:25: audio device: Microphone (2- Producer USB),
22:21:25: audio device id (null),
22:21:25:
22:21:25: device audio info - bits per sample: 16, channels: 2, samples per sec: 44100, block size: 4
22:21:25: Using directshow input
22:21:26: ------------------------------------------
22:21:26: Video Encoding: x264
22:21:26: fps: 60
22:21:26: width: 1280, height: 720
22:21:26: preset: ultrafast
22:21:26: CBR: yes
22:21:26: CFR: no
22:21:26: max bitrate: 2500
22:21:26: ------------------------------------------
22:21:26: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Razer Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 384000, samples per sec is 48000
22:21:26: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (2- Producer USB)' is 176400, samples per sec is 44100
22:25:34: Total frames rendered: 14805, number of late frames: 4 (0.03%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
22:25:34:
22:25:34: Profiler results:
22:25:34:
22:25:34: ==============================================================
22:25:34: frame - [100%] [avg time: 2.094 ms (cpu time: avg 1.825 ms, total 27019.4 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 99.8%] [unaccounted: 0.191%]
22:25:34: | frame preprocessing and rendering - [41.6%] [avg time: 0.871 ms (cpu time: avg 0.689 ms, total 10202.5 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 18%] [unaccounted: 23.6%]
22:25:34: | | scene->Preprocess - [18%] [avg time: 0.376 ms (cpu time: avg 0.358 ms, total 5304.04 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
22:25:34: | video encoding and uploading - [58.2%] [avg time: 1.219 ms (cpu time: avg 1.135 ms, total 16816.9 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 56.4%] [unaccounted: 1.86%]
22:25:34: | | flush - [4.11%] [avg time: 0.086 ms (cpu time: avg 0.038 ms, total 577.204 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
22:25:34: | | CopyResource - [0.812%] [avg time: 0.017 ms (cpu time: avg 0.01 ms, total 156.001 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
22:25:34: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.287%] [avg time: 0.006 ms (cpu time: avg 0.004 ms, total 62.4 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
22:25:34: | | call to encoder - [51.1%] [avg time: 1.07 ms (cpu time: avg 1.048 ms, total 15522.1 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
22:25:34: | | sending stuff out - [0.0478%] [avg time: 0.001 ms (cpu time: avg 0.002 ms, total 31.2 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
22:25:34: | Convert444Threads - [1.59e+003%] [avg time: 33.339 ms (cpu time: avg 1.47 ms, total 21777.7 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
22:25:34: ==============================================================
22:25:34:
22:25:34: =====Stream End: 2013-08-21, 22:25:34=================================================
22:25:36: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-21, 22:25:36===============================================
22:25:36: Multithreaded optimizations: On
22:25:36: Base resolution: 1280x720
22:25:36: Output resolution: 1280x720
22:25:36: ------------------------------------------
22:25:36: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti...
22:25:36: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{da676458-ec8e-4d2f-977a-1a4d50e404bf}
22:25:36: ------------------------------------------
22:25:36: Using desktop audio input: Razer Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)
22:25:36: ------------------------------------------
22:25:36: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (2- Producer USB)
22:25:36: ------------------------------------------
22:25:36: Audio Encoding: AAC
22:25:36: bitrate: 128
22:25:36: ------------------------------------------
22:25:36: device: AVerMedia HD Capture C985 Bus 6,
22:25:36: device id \\?\pci#ven_1af2&dev_a001&subsys_a0011af2&rev_00#4&443610c&0&00e6#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{957bd672-7934-4b55-b81a-3e22b14c679a},
22:25:36: chosen type: YV12, usingFourCC: true, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, frameIntervals: 166666-666666, fourCC: 'YV12'
22:25:36: audio device: Microphone (2- Producer USB),
22:25:36: audio device id (null),
22:25:36:
22:25:36: device audio info - bits per sample: 16, channels: 2, samples per sec: 44100, block size: 4
22:25:36: Using directshow input
22:25:36: ------------------------------------------
22:25:36: Video Encoding: x264
22:25:36: fps: 60
22:25:36: width: 1280, height: 720
22:25:36: preset: ultrafast
22:25:36: CBR: yes
22:25:36: CFR: no
22:25:36: max bitrate: 2500
22:25:36: ------------------------------------------
22:25:36: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Razer Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 384000, samples per sec is 48000
22:25:36: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (2- Producer USB)' is 176400, samples per sec is 44100
22:25:37: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
22:25:37: Server selection: rtmp://live-jfk.justin.tv/app
22:25:37: Interface: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (ethernet, 100 mbps)
22:25:39: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
22:25:39: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
22:40:11: Total frames rendered: 52462, number of late frames: 7 (0.01%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
22:40:13: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
22:40:14: Number of times waited to send: 3, Waited for a total of 12291 bytes
22:40:14: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
22:40:14:
22:40:14: Profiler results:
22:40:14:
22:40:14: ==============================================================
22:40:14: frame - [100%] [avg time: 2.16 ms (cpu time: avg 1.846 ms, total 96861 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 99.9%] [unaccounted: 0.139%]
22:40:14: | frame preprocessing and rendering - [39.5%] [avg time: 0.854 ms (cpu time: avg 0.716 ms, total 37596.3 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 17.3%] [unaccounted: 22.2%]
22:40:14: | | scene->Preprocess - [17.3%] [avg time: 0.374 ms (cpu time: avg 0.355 ms, total 18626.5 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
22:40:14: | video encoding and uploading - [60.3%] [avg time: 1.303 ms (cpu time: avg 1.128 ms, total 59202.4 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 58.4%] [unaccounted: 1.94%]
22:40:14: | | flush - [5.23%] [avg time: 0.113 ms (cpu time: avg 0.038 ms, total 2043.61 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
22:40:14: | | CopyResource - [0.787%] [avg time: 0.017 ms (cpu time: avg 0.009 ms, total 499.201 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
22:40:14: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.324%] [avg time: 0.007 ms (cpu time: avg 0.005 ms, total 265.201 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
22:40:14: | | call to encoder - [51%] [avg time: 1.101 ms (cpu time: avg 1.03 ms, total 54085.5 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
22:40:14: | | sending stuff out - [1.06%] [avg time: 0.023 ms (cpu time: avg 0.014 ms, total 748.807 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
22:40:14: | Convert444Threads - [1.54e+003%] [avg time: 33.316 ms (cpu time: avg 1.427 ms, total 74896.1 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
22:40:14: ==============================================================
22:40:14:
22:40:14: =====Stream End: 2013-08-21, 22:40:14=================================================
23:02:37: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-21, 23:02:37===============================================
23:02:37: Multithreaded optimizations: On
23:02:37: Base resolution: 1280x720
23:02:37: Output resolution: 1280x720
23:02:37: ------------------------------------------
23:02:37: Loading up D3D10 on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti...
23:02:37: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{da676458-ec8e-4d2f-977a-1a4d50e404bf}
23:02:37: ------------------------------------------
23:02:37: Using desktop audio input: Razer Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)
23:02:37: ------------------------------------------
23:02:37: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (2- Producer USB)
23:02:37: ------------------------------------------
23:02:37: Audio Encoding: AAC
23:02:37: bitrate: 128
23:02:37: ------------------------------------------
23:02:37: device: AVerMedia HD Capture C985 Bus 6,
23:02:37: device id \\?\pci#ven_1af2&dev_a001&subsys_a0011af2&rev_00#4&443610c&0&00e6#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{957bd672-7934-4b55-b81a-3e22b14c679a},
23:02:37: chosen type: YV12, usingFourCC: true, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, frameIntervals: 166666-666666, fourCC: 'YV12'
23:02:37: audio device: Microphone (2- Producer USB),
23:02:37: audio device id (null),
23:02:37:
23:02:37: device audio info - bits per sample: 16, channels: 2, samples per sec: 44100, block size: 4
23:02:37: Using directshow input
23:02:38: ------------------------------------------
23:02:38: Video Encoding: x264
23:02:38: fps: 60
23:02:38: width: 1280, height: 720
23:02:38: preset: superfast
23:02:38: CBR: yes
23:02:38: CFR: no
23:02:38: max bitrate: 2500
23:02:38: ------------------------------------------
23:02:38: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Razer Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 384000, samples per sec is 48000
23:02:38: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (2- Producer USB)' is 176400, samples per sec is 44100
23:02:39: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
23:02:39: Server selection: rtmp://live-jfk.justin.tv/app
23:02:39: Interface: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (ethernet, 100 mbps)
23:02:40: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
23:02:40: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
23:02:42: RTMPPublisher::Socketloop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 131072 (buffer: 13237 / 335872)
23:06:56: Total frames rendered: 15466, number of late frames: 5 (0.03%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
23:06:57: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
23:06:57: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
23:06:57: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
23:06:57:
23:06:57: Profiler results:
23:06:57:
23:06:57: ==============================================================
23:06:57: frame - [100%] [avg time: 2.29 ms (cpu time: avg 1.819 ms, total 28142.6 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 99.9%] [unaccounted: 0.131%]
23:06:57: | frame preprocessing and rendering - [37%] [avg time: 0.848 ms (cpu time: avg 0.625 ms, total 9672.06 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 14.8%] [unaccounted: 22.3%]
23:06:57: | | scene->Preprocess - [14.8%] [avg time: 0.338 ms (cpu time: avg 0.311 ms, total 4820.44 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
23:06:57: | video encoding and uploading - [62.8%] [avg time: 1.439 ms (cpu time: avg 1.193 ms, total 18454.9 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 61.3%] [unaccounted: 1.57%]
23:06:57: | | flush - [8.3%] [avg time: 0.19 ms (cpu time: avg 0.027 ms, total 421.205 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
23:06:57: | | CopyResource - [1.09%] [avg time: 0.025 ms (cpu time: avg 0.012 ms, total 187.202 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
23:06:57: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.306%] [avg time: 0.007 ms (cpu time: avg 0.005 ms, total 78 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
23:06:57: | | call to encoder - [50.6%] [avg time: 1.158 ms (cpu time: avg 1.111 ms, total 17191.3 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
23:06:57: | | sending stuff out - [1%] [avg time: 0.023 ms (cpu time: avg 0.011 ms, total 171.6 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
23:06:57: | Convert444Threads - [1.46e+003%] [avg time: 33.334 ms (cpu time: avg 1.274 ms, total 19718.5 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
23:06:57: ==============================================================
23:06:57:
23:06:57: =====Stream End: 2013-08-21, 23:06:57=================================================


Internet Speedtest Results : http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2915955531
I have also checked my speed on a different webiste called speakeasy.net and the results were 80mbps down / 17.55mbps Up

So yeh, it feels like my internet speed and my cpu can handle the settings but no matter what game seems a bit choppy, while other peoples stream who have very similar if not worst cpu then me that acutally stream have better quality and seems much smoother.
 

kigqa

New Member
Re: When streaming game doesnt look smooth, seems a little c

Just a test..
My Desktop in 1080p using just OBS : http://www.twitch.tv/kigqa/b/449548451
My Desktop in 1080p using Avermedia Live Gamer HD Capture Card : http://www.twitch.tv/kigqa/b/449548248

For some reason when using the Live Gamer HD the quality is kinda lower.. you can see the letters look a little distorted. Whereas when I just use the OBS without the capture card it looks a lot crisp and smooth. The downside is when I just use the standard OBS my cpu usuage sky rockets.

Also I played a game using the OBS settings i mentioned way above and this is how my game looked..
http://www.twitch.tv/kigqa/b/449537843
Compared to the other streamers that have very similar settings and internet connection as mine.. Mine looks really bad compared to theres.. someone please help
 
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