Question / Help What settings are best for a monster?

Beefy1223

Beefy1223

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i7 7700, 1070GTX, 32GB RAM, and I can stream but it's either absolutely terrible quality if I go with 1080p or just barely enough to make out detail when set to 1440p but my processor approaches 90 degrees and it concerns me. (Considering buying a CPU cooler)

I may have all my settings completely out of whack, or I might just have slow upload speeds, although I assume that 25MBps is enough to upload 1440p @60.

https://obsproject.com/logs/LyuNxXA2beuv9Y7J
 
02:31:47.271: Windows Version: 10.0 Build 17134 (revision: 829; 64-bit)

Windows is out of date. This version has a broken feature that can negatively impact OBS performance. You should update.

Beyond that there's no session in the log, and so no performance information. Would need a log that includes a completed streaming session (start, see your issue, stop, then upload).
 
So really my question had to do with getting the best settings I could for the setup I had, but I will be streaming tonight for approximately 5 hours so there should be plenty of sample when I upload the next log.
 
My Processor was overheating so I bailed on the stream. Maybe someone can help me.
Just let me know what I should be doing settings-wise for streaming with MAXIMUM quality without my rig exploding.
 

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If your processor is overheating, the only solution for this kind of problem is to fix and rework the cooling system in your computer. A properly designed and built computer doesn't overheat even on hour long maximum utilization of every component.

If you mounted the heatsink on your CPU yourself, you might have not done it correctly, since doing this correctly is crucial. Another source of overheating might be the heatsink not being able to transport enough heat away (it's "too small" or fans not strong enough).

Trying to lower the CPU utilization so that your CPU isn't producing so much heat will be in vain with long running apps like video encoding. You might try to underclock the CPU and lower the core voltage (just the reverse of what you do if you overclock), but that's a vastly inferior thing compared to simply fix the cooling.
 
Also:

19:42:34.743: - source: 'Monitor 2' (monitor_capture)
19:42:34.743: - source: 'Monitor 1' (monitor_capture)
19:42:34.743: - source: 'Game Capture' (game_capture)

Don't mix display and game captures in the same scene, it is non-performant.

20:56:43.094: Output 'adv_stream': Number of lagged frames due to rendering lag/stalls: 5776 (2.2%)

https://obsproject.com/wiki/GPU-overload-issues

Rendering lag. This is caused by GPU overload. Partly this is caused by the broken Windows feature in this version:

19:42:31.667: Windows Version: 10.0 Build 17134 (revision: 829; 64-bit)

You should update.

20:56:43.094: Output 'adv_stream': Number of dropped frames due to insufficient bandwidth/connection stalls: 7129 (2.7%)

Insufficient bandwidth for your selected bitrate (4500).

https://obsproject.com/wiki/Dropped-Frames-And-General-Connection-Issues

20:56:43.094: Video stopped, number of skipped frames due to encoding lag: 6145/261360 (2.4%)

Encoder overload.

https://obsproject.com/wiki/General-Performance-And-Encoding-Issues

You're trying to do 1440p60. You may need to choose a lower frame rate and/or frame size.
 
Updated windows before this log file, so I wonder why it still tipped that I hadn't.

Should I just remove the Game Capture element? I heard that Game Capture worked MORE efficiently than just screen capture.

SO I need to crank the bitrate, but if I do, won't it work the processor further, overheatng it faster? Also, 90 degrees is what I was experiencing. I'm investing in a CPU cooler soon. My system is a pre-manufactured system. It didnt even come with a case fan, I had to add that.

Sure, would 30 frames at 1440p be that much different? I know it sounds like 50% less effort for it, but I might be wrong.
 
So really, again, what would be the optimal settings for this setup? Should it technically be able to do all of what I want, and I just have a cooling issue, or am I going to far for what my system can tolerate?
 
Also, my upload speed is 25 MBps, that should be far more than enough to handle 4500KBps.

My download is 250MB. Dont think it matters, thought I would mention it.
 
Game capture is better than desktop capture. But a scene should only contain one of those two types, not both; nor should it contain multiple game captures. Either a single capture should be reconfigured on a per-use basis, or preconfigured captures should be kept in separate scenes or scene collections.

You may need to update Windows manually.

You can run the Auto-Configuration Wizard from the Tools menu. It will ask you questions about your usage and make suggested settings you can use as a baseline.

Generic speedtest results are not really relevant to streaming. If the OBS log says frames are being dropped, they are. Use TwitchTest to see if there is a better ingest server for you to use.
 
Beefy1223 said:
So really, again, what would be the optimal settings for this setup? Should it technically be able to do all of what I want, and I just have a cooling issue, or am I going to brazzers pornhub xhamster far for what my system can tolerate?
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Beyond that there's no session in the log, and so no performance information. Would need a log that includes a completed streaming session (start, see your issue, stop, then upload).
 
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BTW, dumb ass me, I wasn't even aware there was a configuration wizard. I have run it and it determined that my bitrate needed to be increased to 6000 KBPS, and that my 4K monitor (currently in 2K) is fine, but that the scaling would have to be at 1080p. I just hope it looks good, not like Super Nintendo. I plan to stream again tonight, and will upload what I can tonight or tomorrow.

I also want to thank you both for your input. I have gone to many forums to ask for help with programs like VEGAS, and they either never respond, are too busy to do so (with a staff of four watching the whole damn forum) or don't bother because I just happened to get whatever program it is off of Humble Bundle or something. Again, thanks.
 
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Speccy of my temps when I'm at full titl but NOT streaming. Streaming tends to make it go up about 10 degrees. Going into Microcenter either Wednesday or Thursday to sort out the cooling, but its a pre-built so I bet my options are limited. But yeah, Ive concluded that its all cooling. That's my issue.
 
Beefy1223 said:
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Speccy of my temps when I'm at full titl but NOT streaming. Streaming tends to make it go up about 10 degrees. Going into Microcenter either Wednesday or Thursday to sort out the cooling, but its a pre-built so I bet my options are limited. But yeah, Ive concluded that its all cooling. That's my issue.
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Those temperatures are within the safe range for your components. I don't think that software is reporting your GTX 1070 specs correctly though, it should report 8GB VRAM, not 4GB.
 
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Beefy1223 said:
You are correct on the RAM, speccy does not properly detect it. But I don't know, if I'm streaming my processor hits 90° Celsius, I wouldn't call that standard temperatures.
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Anything over ~80ºC is at the lower edge of being too toasty for that CPU, I assumed you meant up -71ºC when you mentioned +10ºC while streaming.

Installing a better cooler shouldn't be too hard, the main issue with prebuilts is usually the heatsink's RAM clearance and case space, if installing a particularly tall heatsink+fan package, assuming it isn't as simple as just reseating your current heatsink after reapplying new thermal paste.
 
Do you think that a nice CPU Cooler should work? One with a big old radiator? I'm thinking what you were talking about, limited clearance considering it's a pre-built computer. I might have to go water cooling. In that case, a parts transfer from one case to another will be necessary and probably a new power supply so I'm going to head out to Microcenter this afternoon and see what I can get done for $250. My computer might still be under warranty but I don't want to take any risk with this excellent computer.
 
Microcenter employees should be able to help you pick the correct heatsink without needing to spend too much money, since you're not overclocking.

If RAM clearance isn't an issue, something like a Cryorig H7 should work really, really well and it's less than 40 bucks usually. As an alternative, I use an Artic Freezer 33 Plus, though I own a different processor, it has same TDP and it dropped my OVERCLOCKED temps from >85ºC to a cool ~50ºC, at full load, with somewhat high ambient temperature.
 
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