Question / Help Upgrading from 4790k - 5960x

etrnlwait

Member
Hey everyone.

I am currently on a overclocked 4790x and stream 720p@60fps. My main games are CS:GO, DayZ and newcoming Singleplayer games.

I know there will be a difference, but my question is: How much?

The cost to upgrade is quite high as it involves new MoBo and DDR4, so maybe it's not worth the hassle? I have looked around but it seems no one that has one and actually streams has provided feedback.




TL;DR: How much better will the 8 cores of 5960x perform against the 4790k?

Thanks!
 

Videophile

Elgato
Not worth it. I use a 5960x. The difference is very small. Yes, you can do 720p60 at fast or maybe medium, but the $1.4k overheard(CPU+Mobo) is not worth it imo. the 4790k is VERY capable. Just stick with it.
 

etrnlwait

Member
Not worth it. I use a 5960x. The difference is very small. Yes, you can do 720p60 at fast or maybe medium, but the $1.4k overheard(CPU+Mobo) is not worth it imo. the 4790k is VERY capable. Just stick with it.
Thank you for the reply!

I ended up not buying it, but still want to. Damn capitalism! :)

Actually I guess I just have money to spend and don't actually have a good upgrade to do.
 

yanis31

Member
Not worth it. I use a 5960x. The difference is very small. Yes, you can do 720p60 at fast or maybe medium, but the $1.4k overheard(CPU+Mobo) is not worth it imo. the 4790k is VERY capable. Just stick with it.

i have EXTREMELY high doubts about what you said - but i would like to hear more of course,
after how noticeable difference i witnessed from upgrading a vishera 6 core to an 8 core - there's no way more cores/threads won't help here.. unless OBS is not properly optimized for it?
besides 720p60 @ fast is what i do with AMD (mostly older games like mirrors edge etc.but LoL, alien isolation, the witcher 2 and such have no problem with it either - 45fps can be handled on any modern game apart from maybe battlefield 4 64player servers, crysis 3 and such monsters) ... surely THAT thing can do more than just 720 medium.
 

alpinlol

Active Member
i have EXTREMELY high doubts about what you said - but i would like to hear more of course,
after how noticeable difference i witnessed from upgrading a vishera 6 core to an 8 core - there's no way more cores/threads won't help here.. unless OBS is not properly optimized for it?
besides 720p60 @ fast is what i do with AMD (mostly older games like mirrors edge etc.but LoL, alien isolation, the witcher 2 and such have no problem with it either - 45fps can be handled on any modern game apart from maybe battlefield 4 64player servers, crysis 3 and such monsters) ... surely THAT thing can do more than just 720 medium.

well this is caused by the fact that the whole fx series is okay for the price and for gaming but they simply cant beat the encoding performance if an i7 (there are more than enough benchmarks and actual reviews from several sites to proof it)

the real problem is that the 4790k can do 720p60 without a real problem and the 5960x will not even care about it you can probably throw medium preset at it and it still doesnt care but it is not really worth the quality you gain thats why royalshrimp says stick with your 4790k its probably better and cheaper to go with an streaming rig compared to the 5960x since just cpu and mb cost around ~1100$ and thats a complete streaming rig with an i7 + even a gpu and everything else included

but depending on what you do if you are some sort of movie maker or whatever and encode videos all day long (not streaming) then you probably want to spent the money because the time you save with rendering is enormous

as a hint theres also the i7 5820k costs the half but only offers 6cores+ht but its worth a thought
 
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yanis31

Member
i doubt the 4790k can do 720p60 without any real problem, atleast not on slower presets... the default preset my amd can do it without problems as well, i never go faster than preset "fast" just adjust the fps according to game, when i stream 30fps i actually choose preset "medium" / - also remember that the bitrate afects this as well... up to recently i was streaming 3500kbps all the time jsut now sticking to 3000 and on very rare occasions 2500 since twitch servers work well only when you have plenty viewers. i am only saying this since i have some friends with 4770k's and they have been dropping frames quite a bit on some streams.. im sure with a proper overclock 4.5+ghz the intel would be fine.

anyway - this is not about the cost of the 5960x - plenty of people out there are looking for real performance and 4790k simply is too weak. - id consider some xeons from ebay for a dedicated streaming box if it can actually help... just the cost probably would outweigh the 5960x so that's a bit excessive... that's why we are hungry for real data and noone has provided it yet - im hoping for an answer from another thread... and when we talk recommendations it obviously should be the 5820k with a overclock...
 

Videophile

Elgato
If you can overclock a 5960x you can get to slower presets, but again, not worth the money. The difference between medium and slow is not really visible unless analyzing pixels, which I doubt your viewers would be doing.

What im saying is: Save your money, get a 5820k, get a closed loop water cooler, heavily OC it. And spend money on something else.
 

Videophile

Elgato
i have EXTREMELY high doubts about what you said - but i would like to hear more of course,
after how noticeable difference i witnessed from upgrading a vishera 6 core to an 8 core - there's no way more cores/threads won't help here.. unless OBS is not properly optimized for it?
besides 720p60 @ fast is what i do with AMD (mostly older games like mirrors edge etc.but LoL, alien isolation, the witcher 2 and such have no problem with it either - 45fps can be handled on any modern game apart from maybe battlefield 4 64player servers, crysis 3 and such monsters) ... surely THAT thing can do more than just 720 medium.
Yes, it can do more than medium. But that's at stock. With a OC to 4Ghz im sure it could do a lot more, thats a 1Ghz OC!
 

yanis31

Member
they reach 4.6ghz quite easy i hear... it's a haswell afterall, of course cooling and the highest end motherboard will be necessary... i'm running my amd @ 4.7 for my results to happen also... limited by my 970chipset board
but still - why stick to 720p? how about 1080p60fps :) and the real issue is to get more quality out of a smaller bitrate if you are not partnered so at that point every pixel counts.
 
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