Question / Help The best capturing settings for highest quality?

[ziiio]

This is my recording setting. I don't care about the size or such, I just want a highest possible recording settings.

Should I continue to use .mp4 format or redux after recording from .mkv?
About the rate control, those 4 settings are new to me which is CBR, ABR, VBR and CRF. What's the different between those? I searched and I found it hard to understand on those posts. If possible please help me to understand this in the simplest way (Best one for recording, weakness & strength,...)

I'm sorry if I asked to much. I just try to understand how it works as OBS does a better job than shadowplay.
Thanks for reading guys, I appreciate it.

 

[FerretBomb]

1) Switch to Simple output mode at the top.
2) Set the Recording Mode to Indistinguishable quality.
3) Record to MKV, not MP4. MP4 has major inherent problems and should NEVER be recorded to directly with OBS under any circumstances. If you need MP4s for editing software, remux the MKVs to MP4 after the recording has completed.

 

[ziiio]

1) Switch to Simple output mode at the top.
2) Set the Recording Mode to Indistinguishable quality.
3) Record to MKV, not MP4. MP4 has major inherent problems and should NEVER be recorded to directly with OBS under any circumstances. If you need MP4s for editing software, remux the MKVs to MP4 after the recording has completed.

I tried your settings. But it's actually worse than my current setting. Seems like it's capturing at 30fps instead of 60fps.
The only good sight that I noticed is colour which is lossless.

 

[Dkayed]

1) Switch to Simple output mode at the top.
2) Set the Recording Mode to Indistinguishable quality.
3) Record to MKV, not MP4. MP4 has major inherent problems and should NEVER be recorded to directly with OBS under any circumstances. If you need MP4s for editing software, remux the MKVs to MP4 after the recording has completed.

Why should you never record with MP4?

 

[ziiio]

Why should you never record with MP4?

First of all, if something goes wrong, in any way, shape, or form, you lose every frame of that file and there’s a very good chance it will become completely unrecoverable. It may also leads to blue-screen.

Second of all, .mp4 is bad for capturing because it requires a finalization process to take place before the file is usable.

Last of all, just imagine .mp4 is a structure that needs to complete from A to Z. When you finished with your recording, there's a chance OBS maybe fail to find a letter, let say letter K? A structure without a bone is completely useless. In most case you are more likely to cut your records after capturing. So .mkv is ok with that if it couldn't find an index.

To me, I've never found a problem with .mp4 while recording. It helps me skip a step that process .mkv to .mp4 because my video editor won't work with mkv. I'm also aim for quality than performance for recording so I just don't want Handbrake to take in place to, somehow to me, might reduce the video quality. There was one time my computer crashed to blue-screen while recording. So, it might be it.

My PC is not high-end at this stage, but it's powerful enough to handle tough or intense task.

 

[rockbottom]

ziiio, you don't need to re-encode mkv's with Handbrake to get them to work with your NLE. You just need to re-mux to mp4 & there is absoloutely no loss as no additional encoding involved. OBS can re-mux but I prefer & use Avidemux since it can be used to trim the recording before it goes to my NLE (Magix Vegas Pro 17).

 

[FerretBomb]

Additionally, certain NLEs error out badly with MP4s recorded directly with OBS; Premiere is pretty notorious for throwing tantrums.

More importantly, if ANYTHING AT ALL, EVER goes wrong during the recording process, an MP4 will be 100% unrecoverable garbage. The entire session, with no way to restore or repair it. It's trash. Even if it was at the end and you hit 'stop recording' and the finalization process hung. Nothing you can do but delete it and record again.

Again, NEVER record to MP4 directly for any reason. It takes about 30 seconds to remux from MKV to MP4, and there's even a checkbox in the OBS settings to do it automatically once the recording ends. There is no excuse.

 

[ziiio]

ziiio, you don't need to re-encode mkv's with Handbrake to get them to work with your NLE. You just need to re-mux to mp4 & there is absoloutely no loss as no additional encoding involved. OBS can re-mux but I prefer & use Avidemux since it can be used to trim the recording before it goes to my NLE (Magix Vegas Pro 17).

Somehow when I remux by using OBS, my video editor import audio file only. I don't want to spend more time on searching for this so I ended up with Handbrake.

 

[rockbottom]

Handbrake is great, I use it all the time. But it's not the right tool for what you need to do, why re-encode when a re-mux will do?

http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/

 

[ziiio]

Handbrake is great, I use it all the time. But it's not the right tool for what you need to do, why re-encode when a re-mux will do?

http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/

Turn out that my free software editor didn't support 10 bit colour clip. :( Yeah remux is awesome but I didn't notice about my editing software at the first place.

Do you have any idea how to encode a 10 bit color video to 8bit? I'm stuck with my 45 minutes clip long. Sigh

 

[rockbottom]

I know it can be done in Vegas with the Vegas Levels fx but I'm not sure beyond that what else will do it correctly. I've always recorded with Color Range set to Partial, so all my recordings are 8-bit