Question / Help Stream stuttering/frame skipping

Mazuli

New Member
I don't know the best term to describe what's happening. The game will be streaming smoothly and then suddenly for about half a second to sometimes three or four seconds the framerate will take a massive dip. Well that's what it looks like anyways because on OBS it still says it is running at 30 FPS with no frames dropped. I've spent the last two days searching and it looks like a few people might be having this problem but all the videos they link were already deleted from twitch so I can't be sure.

My relevant hardware:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 CPU
Radeon HD 6850 1GB GPU
Avermedia Live Broadcaster HD capture card

I have every driver updated. I've uninstalled and reinstalled everything that came with my capture card and my graphics card. Nothing is being overclocked or running hot or being overloaded. My CPU never goes above 30% while streaming. I've tried running OBS x86 and x64. I've set the priority to high in my task manager. I've tried every affinity combination just to see if that would do anything (I'll try anything no matter how silly). I've even tried the TLB disable (it's a Phenom-related thing with Windows). I've plugged in my capture card in all three different PCI-E slots. I've tried just one of my monitors plugged in (tried both monitors). I've tried at least five different versions of OBS, one of them going all the way back to a November build.

As for OBS settings I've tried every quality from 0 to 10. I've tried keeping my resolution matching my capture card's resolution. I've tried downscaling. I've even tried changing the resolution to something ridiculously small and unwatchable. I've tried both 30 fps and 60 fps. Anything below 30 fps and the entire stream looks choppy since it's such a low framerate to begin with. I've tried just about everything in the advanced settings other than custom x264 encoder settings. I've even tried having aero enabled and disabled.

No luck at all. Here's what I know:
-It has nothing to do with my bitrate or connection to twitch. How do I know this? Because I don't even have to be streaming. It will occur in the preview window.
-It may be related to either x264 or just OBS. It doesn't do this on FME where it uses H264. But FME is a horrible piece of software that consumes almost all my CPU (I've tried FME 2.5 with command line execution) and still streams at some choppy 15 FPS. I can't tell if it does it on that other popular streaming software that uses x264 because it limits me to 25 fps and already runs really poorly to begin with.
-It has nothing to do with my capture card by itself because I can run the game with the Avermedia software that came with the card and with AmaRecTV and it will run smoothly.
-If I do a software capture while I'm running one of the previously mentioned pieces of software it will do the stutter again but only on OBS.


It would seem strange if my computer somehow isn't strong enough to handle this considering I've tried the absolute lowest settings and the fact that 95% of the time it runs really smooth at some pretty high settings. Here's a video (so it won't get deleted). If you want I can even record the game at some really low resolution with quality set to zero and the x264 CPU preset set to ultrafast with a bitrate of 200/200. It would be a big blurry mess but it will still stutter.
http://www.justin.tv/mazulii/b/371150491
Stuttering occurs at 0:17 and 0:51


And of course here's my log.
Code:
Open Broadcaster Software v0.472b - 64bit ( ^ω^)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor
CPU Speed: 3214MHz
Physical Memory:  4094MB Total, 2694MB Free
stepping id: 3, model 4, family 15, type 0, extmodel 8, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7600 
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
  Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1064005632
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1878257664
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1280x720
  Output resolution: 1280x720
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (2- Logitech USB Headset)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (2- Logitech USB Headset)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 320
------------------------------------------
    device: AVerMedia HD Capture,
    device id \\?\pci#ven_1a0a&dev_6202&subsys_620c1461&rev_01#4&14e6547d&0&0038#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{ede957b0-eaa5-4bf4-acf3-6e10cb4836c3},
    chosen type: UYVY, usingFourCC: false, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, fps: 50-50, fourCC: 'UYVY'

    device audio info - bits per sample: 16, channels: 2, samples per sec: 48000, block size: 4
Using directshow input
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast FastShuffle SSEMisalign LZCNT
x264: profile High, level 3.1
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1280, height: 720
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 2000
    buffer size: 2000
    quality: 7
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-lax-backup.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 1400, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 1900
Total frames rendered: 2254, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
x264: frame I:9     Avg QP:25.39  size: 70504
x264: frame P:1123  Avg QP:28.80  size: 12724
x264: frame B:1084  Avg QP:33.93  size:  3257
x264: consecutive B-frames:  5.1% 86.6%  7.4%  0.9%
x264: mb I  I16..4:  4.2% 40.1% 55.7%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  2.8%  3.2%  0.6%  P16..4: 43.4% 23.3%  7.5%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:19.2%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.6%  0.2%  0.0%  B16..8: 24.9%  7.1%  0.4%  direct: 1.2%  skip:65.7%  L0:35.9% L1:55.0% BI: 9.0%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:45.5% inter:31.8%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 47.2% 42.3% 16.2% inter: 7.5% 6.3% 0.6%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 21% 60% 15%  4%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 16% 34% 25%  2%  5%  4%  4%  4%  5%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 15% 28% 20%  3%  9%  5%  7%  4%  8%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 56% 29% 13%  3%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.0% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:1998.66
=====Stream End=======================================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 8.12 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 95.9%] [unaccounted: 4.13%]
| scene->Preprocess - [29.3%] [avg time: 2.378 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [66.6%] [avg time: 5.407 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 19.2%] [unaccounted: 47.4%]
| | CopyResource - [0.135%] [avg time: 0.011 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.0616%] [avg time: 0.005 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [18.8%] [avg time: 1.529 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.135%] [avg time: 0.011 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================
 

hilalpro

Member
match AVerMedia fps with obs's fps it says that you're doing 50 on the source.
another thing is the audio bitrate 320 kbps is a wast with aac. might wanna lower that to 128 it's already transparent at that bitrate.
 

Mazuli

New Member
hilalpro said:
match AVerMedia fps with obs's fps it says that you're doing 50 on the source.
another thing is the audio bitrate 320 kbps is a wast with aac. might wanna lower that to 128 it's already transparent at that bitrate.
I already have tried matching the FPS. And I've tried lowering the bit rate on the audio to the lowest.

Update: I tried setting both the capture card and stream to 29 fps. It removes the random stutters but instead the video gets really choppy. Like every second it seems to skip a frame or something. Does OBS not like 29 fps? At 25 FPS everything looks really choppy and horrible. At any FPS over 30 it gets choppy as well. It's like 30 FPS is the only smooth FPS other than the stutter.
http://www.justin.tv/mazulii/b/371302347
 

Lain

Forum Admin
Lain
Forum Moderator
Developer
If the device is capturing at 50fps and the stream is at 30fps it might appear uneven, but I mean I don't think the result should be like this. The stuttering does indeed feel like something else. I'm not entirely sure what the cause is, I have a c985 myself and haven't encountered any problems, but our systems aren't similar otherwise.

I liked your post, it was very thorough in how you described the problem and was a detailed explanation, something I don't see that often. I appreciate it greatly. If you could do me a favor and see if you get this with things other than the avermedia as well, then that would be helpful in determining the cause.
 

Mazuli

New Member
I tested a couple PC games. I tried using the Software Capture but it ends up using up 75%-90% of my CPU and the stream looks awful. I also used the Game Capture and it uses up about half my CPU. With the games at low settings and the following log here are videos. For all of these I found I got the best results with OBS as a high priority and the affinity set to CPU 0 and 1 and then the games set to affinities CPU 2 and 3.

Diablo 3
http://www.justin.tv/mazulii/b/371332248

League of Legends
http://www.justin.tv/mazulii/b/371355669

League of Legends with ridiculously low settings 30 FPS
http://www.justin.tv/mazulii/b/371363103

League of Legends ridiculously low settings 60 FPS
http://www.justin.tv/mazulii/b/371362900


So when I get my settings stupidly low it runs pretty smoothly. Even at 60 FPS it looks ugly but it runs perfectly. For the first couple videos I think I just had my settings a bit too high. I understand because I'm not using a high end intel CPU I'll never be able to stream PC games at those amazing settings other people use and that's fine. I mostly just plan on streaming console games.

Sorry about not having the log for the first two streams. I ran so many that I don't know which log belongs to them. But I do have the log for the two smooth ones.

Code:
Open Broadcaster Software v0.472b - 64bit ( ^ω^)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor
CPU Speed: 3214MHz
Physical Memory:  4094MB Total, 1977MB Free
stepping id: 3, model 4, family 15, type 0, extmodel 8, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
monitor 2: pos={-1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7600 
Aero is Enabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
  Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1064005632
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1878257664
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1024x768
  Output resolution: 1024x768
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (2- Logitech USB Headset)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (2- Logitech USB Headset)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast FastShuffle SSEMisalign LZCNT
x264: profile High, level 3.1
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1024, height: 768
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 500
    buffer size: 500
    quality: 1
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-lax-backup.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 1400, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 1900
Total frames rendered: 2023, number of frames that lagged: 1 (0.05%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
x264: frame I:8     Avg QP:34.02  size: 24753
x264: frame P:780   Avg QP:34.49  size:  3619
x264: frame B:1200  Avg QP:39.45  size:   748
x264: consecutive B-frames: 13.8%  0.8% 48.7% 36.8%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 41.1% 47.5% 11.4%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  8.6%  4.4%  0.1%  P16..4: 15.5%  3.4%  0.9%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:67.0%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.4%  0.1%  0.0%  B16..8:  7.1%  1.0%  0.0%  direct: 0.7%  skip:90.7%  L0:41.7% L1:55.5% BI: 2.8%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:33.9% inter:24.3%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 21.3% 32.6% 7.0% inter: 1.4% 2.4% 0.2%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 39% 28% 25%  8%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu:  7% 10% 62%  3%  4%  3%  4%  3%  4%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 21% 23% 27%  3%  8%  5%  4%  4%  5%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 73% 14% 11%  2%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.0% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:472.90
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1024x768
  Output resolution: 1024x768
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (2- Logitech USB Headset)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (2- Logitech USB Headset)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast FastShuffle SSEMisalign LZCNT
x264: profile High, level 3.2
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 60
    width: 1024, height: 768
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 500
    buffer size: 500
    quality: 1
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-lax-backup.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 1401, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 1901
Total frames rendered: 3577, number of frames that lagged: 11 (0.31%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
x264: frame I:15    Avg QP:39.23  size: 11699
x264: frame P:1023  Avg QP:37.48  size:  2698
x264: frame B:2488  Avg QP:42.76  size:   284
x264: consecutive B-frames:  3.0%  1.8% 20.7% 74.6%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 62.4% 34.7%  2.9%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  7.9%  3.6%  0.0%  P16..4: 12.4%  2.3%  0.6%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:73.2%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.1%  0.0%  0.0%  B16..8:  2.7%  0.3%  0.0%  direct: 0.4%  skip:96.4%  L0:35.4% L1:62.4% BI: 2.2%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:31.1% inter:18.9%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 17.0% 33.6% 8.0% inter: 0.5% 1.5% 0.1%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 41% 28% 24%  7%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu:  6%  8% 67%  3%  4%  3%  3%  3%  3%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 22% 28% 26%  3%  7%  4%  3%  3%  4%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 76% 13% 10%  1%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.0% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:493.54
=====Stream End=======================================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 10.074 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 93.7%] [unaccounted: 6.32%]
| scene->Preprocess - [52%] [avg time: 5.24 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [41.7%] [avg time: 4.197 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 17.5%] [unaccounted: 24.2%]
| | CopyResource - [0.526%] [avg time: 0.053 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.347%] [avg time: 0.035 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [16.5%] [avg time: 1.663 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.0695%] [avg time: 0.007 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================
 

Krazy

Town drunk
Well, I guess the next step would be upping your bitrate in increments until the stream stops being smooth.
 

Mazuli

New Member
Krazy said:
Well, I guess the next step would be upping your bitrate in increments until the stream stops being smooth.
But I don't think bit rate matters since the problem occurs in the preview window. I was just doing the PC tests because Jim asked me to. The PC streaming is fine and if I spent enough time I could find a setting that looks decent and runs smoothly. The problem is with the console games running smoothly other than the hiccups.
 

hilalpro

Member
the logs says that you're using aac for audio the vods says you're using mp3.
disable cbr.
the "29" fps stream looks somewhat fine to me.
 

Mazuli

New Member
Sorry about those last logs. I should really just close and re-open OBS for every video so they don't have a bunch of different settings from when I was trying stuff.

Here's one last video for now. It's playing the game through AmaRecTV and then using a window capture. The resolutions are extremely small to try to minimize CPU usage (I was around 30% CPU for this). The game runs smooth as butter on AmaRecTV with some screen tearing which goes away if I enable aero. For the most part the recording runs smooth but it's still doing that stuttering. I am completely clueless.

I have a friend with a really powerful computer that uses an intel i5 2500k CPU and a Gtx 660 GPU. If I can't solve this I'll try putting the card in his computer and see what happens. I suppose there's always a chance it's a faulty capture card but I don't know why it would be if it runs fine outside of OBS. Unless maybe the screen tear has something to do with it.

Anyways here's the video and log. Check around the 0:26 mark. It's a longer stutter this time.
http://www.justin.tv/mazulii/b/371381274

Code:
Open Broadcaster Software v0.472b - 64bit ( ^ω^)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor
CPU Speed: 3214MHz
Physical Memory:  4094MB Total, 2594MB Free
stepping id: 3, model 4, family 15, type 0, extmodel 8, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
monitor 2: pos={-1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7600 
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
  Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1064005632
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1878257664
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 640x360
  Output resolution: 640x360
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (2- Logitech USB Headset)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (2- Logitech USB Headset)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using Window Capture
Using Window Capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast FastShuffle SSEMisalign LZCNT
x264: profile High, level 3.0
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 640, height: 360
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 1000
    buffer size: 1000
    quality: 7
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-lax-backup.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 1400, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 1900
Total frames rendered: 1914, number of frames that lagged: 7 (0.37%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
x264: frame I:8     Avg QP:26.23  size: 23064
x264: frame P:971   Avg QP:28.20  size:  4630
x264: frame B:897   Avg QP:32.21  size:  1035
x264: consecutive B-frames:  5.4% 92.5%  0.0%  2.1%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 19.6% 13.5% 66.9%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  2.1%  0.8%  0.6%  P16..4: 33.2% 25.4% 12.0%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:25.7%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.4%  0.0%  0.0%  B16..8: 23.5%  8.8%  0.7%  direct: 1.8%  skip:64.7%  L0:30.6% L1:48.3% BI:21.1%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:20.2% inter:24.1%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 60.9% 49.1% 30.6% inter: 11.7% 7.6% 1.1%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 45% 50%  4%  1%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 17% 36% 20%  2%  6%  4%  5%  4%  7%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 17% 34% 19%  2%  8%  4%  7%  3%  6%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 29% 39% 29%  3%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.0% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:717.38
=====Stream End=======================================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 4.432 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 97.9%] [unaccounted: 2.05%]
| scene->Preprocess - [51.3%] [avg time: 2.272 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [46.7%] [avg time: 2.069 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 13.7%] [unaccounted: 32.9%]
| | CopyResource - [2.21%] [avg time: 0.098 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.158%] [avg time: 0.007 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [11.1%] [avg time: 0.494 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.226%] [avg time: 0.01 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================
 

Mazuli

New Member
Alright so an update. I took the card out and tried it on a friend's computer. Different CPU and GPU (intel and nvidia vs my AMD and ATI respectively). Tried it on his Wii U. Exact same issue. I even used his HDMI cables instead of mine for the small chance it could be the cables. So my conclusion was the card was bad. I returned the card and bought a different one. I bought an Avermedia Live Gamer HD which seems to be the most popular card right now. I also reformatted my computer. And... it's still doing it. My Live Gamer HD came with 3 free months of... that other streaming software. I tested it on there and it runs smooth. No problems at all.

So now I have to think it's OBS related. But I don't know what. I've been looking at other streams that use this exact card and also use OBS and maybe it's hard to notice in the games they play but I don't see the stutter happening. For now I've given up. I'll just have to accept the stutter and pray this will one day be resolved but I'm not getting my hopes up.
 

Sash0

New Member
Hello everyone!

I am a new here, but unfortunatelly I have the same issues. Yestarday I bought 2 of those card as it is become very famous in the gamers community. Well my system is similar to Mazuli.
There is two strange things happend. I will provide more information later.

1. After I install C985 card, start making a first stream, it was little strange for me, but after I start fraps to check if realy has a FPS drop, I realize that my FPS are the same as Mazuli around 22-28 variation. I strat tweak and tweak.
Yes with RECENTRAL there are not issues.

2. Today I got some other tweaks and I don't know how I aproach my 50-60 FPS of Ghost Recon Online, which is running ot that FPS on my system withou streaming. But sound from the game has not been streamed.

3. After I figureout that I need to choose the Audio device in Capture Card settings, my sound appear, but FPS got drop again. In my previous successfull settings I was set the audio in the program, but it does not appear also.

After my 3rd case, I strat to realize that actually my CPU usage is the same as before with or without C985 card. Fisrt I thought it has something with sound, but it is not.

Well previeous when I did my stream only by software it was with bad quality, but still nice to watch, and normal FPS to paly. Somehow from a 2 weeks ago my FPS get drop, before I bought the C985. But I realize that when I am using the TeamSpeak while playing, only then FPS drop. I mean befor buy the that card.

I will try to post more information about my system and If where I am at my investigation.

Here is aslo a few samples of how quality get better

http://bg.twitch.tv/sashomedia/b/406750279

This is where a I got nice FPS. It does not related to the game, because UT3 I got with drop FPS also

http://bg.twitch.tv/sashomedia/b/407093130
 

Perfection

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I also own the live gamer HD and am currently seeing if OBS conflicts with the capture card hardware somehow by using my old pc for a two-box setup.

I run a i7 3770k and 2x 660 Ti's so the actual gameplay is 120 fps locked, will give an update later today after work

Edit: On my old pc I had the same stutter issues and gave up on streaming for a while and went to record for a while instead.
 

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This is an update of my above post. So after a two days of tweaking I got realize something and finaly I had to achieve the quality that I am looking for by using the OBS with AverMedia GamerLive.

Here is my PC configuration:

- CPU: AMD Phenom II x6 1100T 3.30GHz
- RAM: Kingston HyperX 16GB 1366MHz
- VGA: NVIDIA 2X 670 SLI
- HDD: SATA6
I think this is enough to get idea of my PC performance

Here is my OBS settings:
Encoding:
- Qaulity = 10
- Max Buffer = 5000
- Buffer Size = 1000
- Codec = AAC
- Bitrate = 128

Video:
- Base resolution = 1280 x 720
- Resolution Downscale = None
- FPS = 30
Disable Aero At startup as your choice, main is checked.

Advamced:
- x264 CPU Preset = superfst
All the rest as default

Capture card settings:
Custom Resolution:
- Resolution = 1280 x 720
- FPS = 60.0002 (15 - 60.0002)
- USE Output Format = YV12
- Audio Input Devices I had to Disable but you need to test also, as for me is working.
All the rest settings as default.

Add your capture card as a Global Source. Then add from Global Source to your scenes. There is somehing that is not clear enough for me. Does it mean that if you are using a capture card, that CPU will not be in use? Well in my opinion it is not like that. The CPU will be still in use even if you are using a capture card to stream.

One tips that is working for me to not get drop FPS. The "Enable View" options I did not check on the video window of the OBS. I realize that when I am not enable, my FPS in the game are wll 30 - 60. This FPS allows me play smooth. I am also streaming my game in window mode, I don't know if it is good or bad.

I am streaming Ghost Recon Online wich is online game and requires fast internet connection.

So if you want to stream in a high quality like screenshot from the game pictue, you may need to have a powerfull i7 CPU or maybe the new AMD x8 series CPU.

For further information about OBS settings here is some nice tutorial that I found. You can learn in deep about most of the settings how they works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7byiwD18ns

Let me know if you need to post a screenshot of my OBS settings.



Hope this will help to everyone to setup their streaming with OBS and AverMedia Gamer Live C985 capture card.
 
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