Question / Help Stream seems to freeze

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Lolwhowtf

New Member
When I'm streaming and just running around my stream just randomly freezes for 1 or 2 seconds then just fast forwards for no reason. I can't seem to find the problem off it. No frames dropped, still a green indicator.
This tends to happen on WoW and SC2. It seems to happen less on SC2, and on wow when I start to move and run it freezes.

Streaming to twitch server: EU: London, UK (Secondary)

Quality Balance: 10
Max bitrage / buffer size: 4000
Bitrate: 256
Resolution: 1920/1080p
Multithreaded Optimizations is checked,
Process priority class High
x264 CPU preset: Veryfast
Use CFR / CBR both checked off. Everything else on "Advance" is off

www.twitch.tv/lolwhowtfs
 
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Lolwhowtf

New Member
This crashed because off teamspeak, but thats not the issue.

Open Broadcaster Software v0.47a - 32bit (´・ω・｀)
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CPU Name: AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor
CPU Speed: 3888MHz
Physical Memory: 4095MB Total, 2049MB Free
stepping id: 2, model 1, family 15, type 0, extmodel 0, extfamily 3, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Enabled
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Adapter 1
Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1060859904
Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3469391872
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1440x900
Output resolution: 1440x900
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Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{bf9d46ce-0b87-4cc5-b6c1-8be70e2f8c9b}
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Using desktop audio input: Headset Earphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Headset Microphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 30
width: 1440, height: 900
preset: veryfast
CBR: no
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1500
buffer size: 3000
quality: 8
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr-backup.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 2852, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 3352
Total frames rendered: 2010, number of frames that lagged: 1 (0.05%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1920x1088
Output resolution: 1920x1088
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{bf9d46ce-0b87-4cc5-b6c1-8be70e2f8c9b}
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Headset Earphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Headset Microphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 256
Using Window Capture
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Video Encoding: x264
fps: 60
width: 1920, height: 1088
preset: veryfast
CBR: no
CFR: no
max bitrate: 3000
buffer size: 3500
quality: 8
------------------------------------------
Total frames rendered: 557, number of frames that lagged: 12 (2.15%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
=====Stream End=======================================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 4.199 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 94.4%] [unaccounted: 5.62%]
| scene->Preprocess - [11.6%] [avg time: 0.489 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [82.7%] [avg time: 3.474 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 56.9%] [unaccounted: 25.8%]
| | CopyResource - [0.31%] [avg time: 0.013 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.667%] [avg time: 0.028 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [50.8%] [avg time: 2.135 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [5.07%] [avg time: 0.213 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================
 
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hilalpro

Member
Try updating obs, if you run the game in full screen mode while "game capturing" it will freeze when you're not actually focusing on it.
 
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Lolwhowtf

New Member
The problem is still happening.
If anyone with a similar problem, could help me.

It's not really frames lost the stream just straight out freezes on wow, sc2 anything I play. I tried to mess around with hte settings it still happened.
 
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hilalpro

Member
What's your upload speed ? you don't wanna check your stream for freezes when streaming, check the vods after. if it's not happening there then like obs stats in the log file, everything is running fine and you're only getting the well known viewer stream lag because you're streaming.
 
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hilalpro

Member
No worries, if possible use game capture with a separate scene from this build(64bit if possible) when streaming the actual game. windows 7's monitor capture at 60 fps is not the best option.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=68

also give cbr a try since you're spiking up to double the bitrate trying to stream that game.
 
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Lolwhowtf

New Member
I usually do use Game capture, but something with wow that makes me not want to go full screen, and if I use game capture it has this black thing around it. But I'll give it a go the next time i'm on.

Do you know a rough settings I should be using, or is my current set up fine?
 
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hilalpro

Member
You can still do game capture with full screen (windowed). if it only works for you when on fullscreen (non windowed) though make sure that the game and ob's base resolution are on the same aspect ratio so you wouldn't have to stretch anything or have the "black bars" showing for you .

your current settings should work. post a log after updating and everything.
 
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Lolwhowtf

New Member
Hey, I did put CBR on, and decided to change the FPS to 35 instead off 30. Thanks again, about to double check the Vod now.

Code: 
Open Broadcaster Software v0.48.007b (experimental test build) - 32bit (´・ω・｀)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor
CPU Speed: 3888MHz
Physical Memory:  4095MB Total, 3040MB Free
stepping id: 2, model 1, family 15, type 0, extmodel 0, extfamily 3, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={1920, 0}, size={1440, 900}
monitor 2: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
  Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1060859904
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3234041856
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{bf9d46ce-0b87-4cc5-b6c1-8be70e2f8c9b}
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Headset Earphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Headset Microphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 256
Using graphics capture
Using text output
Using Monitor Capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 4000
    buffer size: 4000
    quality: 10
------------------------------------------
Total frames rendered: 599, number of frames that lagged: 1 (0.17%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{bf9d46ce-0b87-4cc5-b6c1-8be70e2f8c9b}
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Headset Earphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Headset Microphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 256
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 4000
    buffer size: 4000
    quality: 10
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr-backup.justin.tv/app
Total frames rendered: 59, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to loop exit
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (-1.$%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (-1.$%), Total 0 (-1.$%)
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{bf9d46ce-0b87-4cc5-b6c1-8be70e2f8c9b}
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Headset Earphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Headset Microphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 256
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 4000
    buffer size: 4000
    quality: 10
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 94, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{bf9d46ce-0b87-4cc5-b6c1-8be70e2f8c9b}
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Headset Earphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Headset Microphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 256
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: yes
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 4000
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr-backup.justin.tv/app
Total frames rendered: 111, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to loop exit
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (-1.$%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (-1.$%), Total 0 (-1.$%)
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{bf9d46ce-0b87-4cc5-b6c1-8be70e2f8c9b}
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Headset Earphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Headset Microphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 256
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 45
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: yes
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 4000
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr-backup.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Increasing socket send buffer to ISB 262144
Total frames rendered: 9190, number of frames that lagged: 27 (0.29%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 142 (1.55%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 20, Waited for a total of 70222 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 122 (1.3%), Number of p-frames dropped: 113 (1.2%), Total 235 (2.6%)
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{bf9d46ce-0b87-4cc5-b6c1-8be70e2f8c9b}
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Headset Earphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Headset Microphone (2- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 )
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 256
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 35
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: yes
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 4000
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr-backup.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
SharedTexCapture hooked
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Increasing socket send buffer to ISB 1048576
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  New Scene
Using Monitor Capture
Total frames rendered: 233914, number of frames that lagged: 343 (0.15%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 599 (0.26%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 57, Waited for a total of 211254 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 3053 (1.3%), Number of p-frames dropped: 3249 (1.4%), Total 6302 (2.7%)
=====Stream End=======================================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 3.298 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 94.7%] [unaccounted: 5.28%]
| scene->Preprocess - [4.31%] [avg time: 0.142 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [90.4%] [avg time: 2.982 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 89.6%] [unaccounted: 0.849%]
| | CopyResource - [0.334%] [avg time: 0.011 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [1.64%] [avg time: 0.054 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [86.1%] [avg time: 2.838 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| | sending stuff out - [1.55%] [avg time: 0.051 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
==============================================================

I streamed for about an hour and a half or so, and got 6000 frames lost. Some reason it didn't show. But for Starcraft 2, the quality seems pretty sexy for the most part and don't think I saw anything happen. Do you think it would be better to stream at 720p for people who have shit internet?
 
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hilalpro

Member
You still have to take care of the frame drops though,

lower aac back to 128 (should still be transparent to the ears) and try another server.
for starcraft your stream is fine as is, if you want to stream high motions games though 720p60fps should be a better option.
 
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Lolwhowtf

New Member
It could just be my internet though. Been streaming for an hour now on "Kerbal Space Program" and haven't had one single dropped frame, or maybe skype while doing 2s on SC2. Is my guess. But I guess 6000 is quite high when I streamed for 12 hours the other day on terraria I had just under 900
 
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