Stream drops into the red when using OBS on a connection of 50mbps dl and 10mbps upload

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GameproGJ

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So I just got done with a stream tonight and I want to make sure everything is solid everywhere else. I do have some instances where my stream will just drop out of nowhere, but tonight the connection was terrible. My speed was great though. So I have three log files to look over.

I do use twitch inspector and was on the Los Angeles server as I forgot to switch it. The stats were...

Bandwidth 237kbps
MS: 37
Quality: 35

I know that is terrible for a connection and I never should have been on the server, but I do want to know if there are any other causes aside from that.

Thank you.
 

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Lawrence_SoCal

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OBS Studio log won't tell anyone about your ISP connection (cellular, coax, fiber, DSL, etc) nor what else is going on with your LAN and WiFi (smart/streaming devices, etc)

Quality of 35 - yea that was the problem. bandwidth of 237kpbs is an order of magnitude low (=0.2mbps)
Could there have been other problems? sure... but until you resolve you connection quality to streaming server, you aren't really going to be able be able to troubleshoot other issues (unless you have skilled at enterprise level real-time network monitoring and analysis, in which case you wouldn't have posted your question)

10mb/s upload is NOT great.. it is ok, maybe. As documented on this site, and plenty of other places... speed test show result in an optimal state (dropping low results). When streaming, it is that bottom consistent threshold result that is most important. Which is why, as a very rough rule of thumb, some free consumer streaming sites will advise on not using more than 80% of the available upload bandwidth... to be on the safe side. And even 80% may not be 'safe enough' depending you your specifics.
 
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GameproGJ

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Thank you. I'm thinking it is one of my devices. I did a short stream earlier and noticed the same results on a better twitch server that had a quality rating of 94.

I use some kind of device that I believe is no longer working properly and stopped streaming until I get a powerline adapter. I have just ordered one since it is easier to get ethernet that way.

Also as you stated I don't use up to 80% of my upload. I actually had it at a comfortable 4500 to leave plenty of bandwidth. It seems the issue is that I've been getting consistently low intervals of low upload speed. My stream setup is on the other end of the household so wifi to ethernet was the best set up at the time. It just seems that it is no longer a working factor.

I do have a lengthy ethernet cable, but I'd rather not have to go underground and wire it that way.

I also made sure to order high quality CAT6 ethernet cables with the powerline adapter hoping for some sort of stability. I heard that the solution works well. Now... it doesn't matter to me if I have to drop the quality a little bit for stability... as long as it works.
 
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Lawrence_SoCal

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GameproGJ said:
I use some kind of device that I believe is no longer working properly and stopped streaming until I get a powerline adapter. I have just ordered one since it is easier to get ethernet that way.
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Beware powerline (quality) and beware even more so, cheap PowerLine adapters.
Personally, I run ethernet cables throughout my house (I just ran 10 new lines for PoE Access Point and PoE security cameras, Solar monitoring system, replace WiFi to 'smart' streaming devices, etc. I avoid WiFi whenever possible (though was using WiFi for Roku's for years, until recently when I combined other network upgrade. But streaming TV is Download and has buffering built-in).

Is PowerLine better than WiFi? maybe, probably, depends... sorry. Sometimes PowerLine works fine. sometimes no. Depends on lots of wiring factors way beyond the boundaries of streaming software forum
GameproGJ said:
It seems the issue is that I've been getting consistently low intervals of low upload speed. My stream setup is on the other end of the household so wifi to ethernet was the best set up at the time. It just seems that it is no longer a working factor.
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could be other traffic on your LAN, or your neighbors using up WAN bandwidth (hopefully not a cellular ISP, but coax cable modem service sometimes has issues when kids (and adults) get home from school/work, and bandwidth demand exceeds neighborhood availability), or something else entirely
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I do have a lengthy ethernet cable, but I'd rather not have to go underground and wire it that way.
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the joy of crawl spaces and cobwebs. but personally, I'd deal with dead critters, cobwebs, etc, than PowerLine... but that's just me. For a wall-mount TV I recently ran A/C power and ethernet in-wall to a new mid-wall outlet behind the TV... nice and clean
 
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GameproGJ

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Yeah, I'm definitely learning having a lot of wifi devices isn't a good idea. I mean if it comes to it then I probably could run the cable underneath the house. Hopefully I won't have to. At least I know all of the factors and it isn't server related. Right now it just seems to have dipped so far into instability that there probably outside factors involved that I can't control.

I do have a friend that uses powerline adapters so I figured I'd give it a shot and see. Hopefully worth the money and I don't think I went all that cheap honestly. I got a TP Link for about $50. Others were there, but the upgraded ones had wifi. Something I shouldn't need anyway lol
 
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