Stream and recording looks under 60 fps?

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InnocentWag

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So I have been trying to resolve this issue on my own for awhile, hundreds of forum posts over OBS and reddit, Youtube videos etc. I cant find the cause of my issue and I have done everything from lowering bitrate/quality, to changing resolution, updated all drivers, updated obs, went back a version, reinstalled obs, i even resinstalled windows and reinstalled all drivers and nothing is working. I will explain the best i can here

As you may know you can easily tell the difference between 30 fps and 60 fps, well my streams and recording dont look 60 fps but my obs is set to 60 fps max, i have my game capture at limit frame rate, everything is set to 60 fps but i swear at random times my stream and recording too will like go under 60 fps if that makes sense? It looks way less smooth. I understand 6k bitrate for twitch is low so itll look weird but people with 6k bitrate look better then mine with worse specs on there rigs? Then to youtube i render videos at about 30k bitrate for smooth playback, nope, my youtube videos do not look SMOOTH like i can tell it drops to like 30 fps for like 20 seconds then just goes back to 60 fps? Then i check obs, 0 dropped frames, 0 encoding lag, its perfectly fine? Im watching video playback on youtube itself, no media player. I have come to the conclusion its a setting on my pc somewhere, because ive tested multiple different settings in both recording section and stream section and i could have max settings on 1 and the minimum on the other and they look the same, only thing i found to help a little is changing multipass mode to Full res two passes not quarter res. like it always no matter what looks like its dropping to from 60 fps to 30 fps in non demanding games like wizard 101? Then demanding games look worse of course because they are demanding xD but i have powerful specs
GPU RTX 4070
Processor 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13700KF
Motherboard PRO Z790-P WIFI
32gb of ram
1tb ssd

I have a powerful setup and it should handle streaming but it doesnt. im telling you my streams and recordings look like 30 fps at random points and then spikes to 60 fps again and looks fine. but theres 0 dropped frames, 0 encoding lag, 0 everything xD so ya ive come to the conclusion something in my windows settings is on.

I have tried turning game bar off but it still says its on
HAGS on and off look the same to me, still drops to 30 fps randomly but it wont say 30 fps anywhere, like when it drops to 30 fps, twitch stats window says 60 fps, obs says 60 fps, i cant figure it out
https://obsproject.com/tools/analyzer?log_url=https://obsproject.com/logs/kgf0QJfu6TRHWC4M
heres the log
if you could please explain what to change in detail lol im a little slow, so dont like put p4 > p5, it confuses me lol, if something needs changed just please tell me what to change it to and maybe why if you could? IM so lost at what to do thank you for your help guys
 
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InnocentWag

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qhobbes said:
See link below for turning off HAGS. Should be similar in Windows 11.

If there's no render/encoding lag or dropped frames, then it's your input. Garbage in, garbage out.

github.com

How To Disable Windows 10 Hardware GPU Scheduler

OBS Studio - Free and open source software for live streaming and screen recording - obsproject/obs-studio
github.com github.com
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So it’s still recommended for hags to be off? Also what do you mean input? Like my game? It’s 240 fps and I limit it through game capture at 60 fps. Upload and download speed of internet is 2gig fiber internet. Like I have the max stuff and it’s still choppy looking? I had to use display capture today cuz game and window capture wouldn’t work for my game and it some reason looked smoother? I’m so lost on what to do, I want my stream and recording smooth, like when I watch others they almost never have choppiness on stream or recording, even streaming at 6k bitrate there’s look fine, mine looks 30 fps for 30 seconds every 30 seconds lol. Is display capture the way to go? I’ve seen everywhere game capture is better, my question is what is smoother looking? If I stick with game capture then the question again arises of why my stream and recordings don’t look smooth while others does at 6k bitrate on twitch like me. But so much smoother
 
PaiSand

PaiSand

Active Member
The log file only shows an streaming attempt with no issues at all.
As you say the recording is bad you need to also include a recording on the same session. Unless you do this separately.
Some games have issues with game capture so you need to use window capture. For other games and situations you need to use display capture.

Anyway, what most probably is happening is that you are using the Windows player (not recommended) to watch the recording instead of using VLC player (recommended) or similar.
As of how it looks on Twitch, well, it depends on Twitch's side and how they re-encode the stream. Partners usually got a good quality. Give a try to Enhanced Broadcast to see if there's any change on the VOD.
 
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InnocentWag

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PaiSand said:
The log file only shows an streaming attempt with no issues at all.
As you say the recording is bad you need to also include a recording on the same session. Unless you do this separately.
Some games have issues with game capture so you need to use window capture. For other games and situations you need to use display capture.

Anyway, what most probably is happening is that you are using the Windows player (not recommended) to watch the recording instead of using VLC player (recommended) or similar.
As of how it looks on Twitch, well, it depends on Twitch's side and how they re-encode the stream. Partners usually got a good quality. Give a try to Enhanced Broadcast to see if there's any change on the VOD.
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well its my stream too, but my game is fine? 240 fps constant, i have super fast wifi and its ethernet to my pc. I have tested enhanced broadcasting before and it looks worse to be honest xD. I dont really know what it is, it just doesnt look SMOOTH on stream or recordings, and i watch my recordings on youtube itself, i dont even really watch it on the media players before hand, i just edit it, upload it then watch it from there to see how it looks on youtube. i get 0 fps drop, 0 frame drop, no lag what so ever, but get that tiny little stutter where it loooks 40 fps instead of 60 fps
 
ciinTri

ciinTri

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You can try disabling Game DVR/Game Bar by running these commands in an elevated CMD. It is known to cause performance issues, you can copy and paste the entire thing in the quote.
reg add "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\GameDVR" /v "AppCaptureEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
reg add "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\GameConfigStore" /v "GameDVR_Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\GameDVR" /v "AllowGameDVR" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\PolicyManager\default\ApplicationManagement\AllowGameDVR" /v "value" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
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Although to me, it sounds like the interval stutter or random stutter bugs mentioned in this thread, which apparently has no fix, since developers can't find the root cause of the problem, they can't replicate the issue somehow either. I think everyone has it, but majority just don't notice unless they would record something that has plenty of motion. Whenever I record osu! where the game would average 960 FPS, those stutters similar to what you mentioned happens regardless of what setting.

Interval stutter / jitter / duplicated frames bug - workarounds

I've lost a lot of time trying to find a solution for this weird bug so below I will dump everything I know including some workarounds for people who are also plagued with it. What is interval stutter it's a very common bug that is plaguing OBS users for many years that is NOT related to...
obsproject.com obsproject.com
 
qhobbes

qhobbes

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Have you watched it on a 60 Hz screen?
Also YouTube recommends 6000 for 720 60 FPS and 12000 for 1080 60 FPS. There's a reason.

Try adding a static border. More bits for the dynamic content.
 
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InnocentWag

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qhobbes said:
Have you watched it on a 60 Hz screen?
Also YouTube recommends 6000 for 720 60 FPS and 12000 for 1080 60 FPS. There's a reason.

Try adding a static border. More bits for the dynamic content.
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yes, it seems the same no matter what HZ, i havent really heard of a static border, ill have to look into it because ya, this lag thing is annoying, i know 6k bitrate is low as well for twitch but i see some people at 6k and its so smooth, even my recordings look a little un smooth, but they are way smoother then my streams. Is there something in the pc i need to turn off? or on? xD Like does some of the top content creators turn a certain setting off that idk about?
 
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