Someone please help - OBS randomly goes into Red Bandwidth regardless of Settings and Net Speed

[MuteNewt]

I hope someone can help. I been having this issue of my bandwidth icon at the bottom of the right screen going into red. Regardless of how low my settings do be. It fluctuates from kb/s: 5000 to 44 and anywhere inbetween. Ill post an image and you'll see its in the red constantly. My internet is very good and its speeds are
495.1Mbps download and 44.4Mbps upload. The funny thing is if I was to go over to Youtube with same settings etc the bandwidth would be in the green all the time. But Streaming to Twitch it will randomly go in the red and be all over the place. What am I missing? Ive added added my log file too.

Any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance,

Daniel

 

[Lawrence_SoCal]

Unless you are doing real-time monitoring of your LAN and WAN, you don't KNOW that your internet upload bandwidth consistency is very good
but, if streaming to YT works fine, then it would seem LAN/WAN connection is probably fine. maybe.. rare possibility of coincidence when using Twitch, I'd start elsewhere before coming back to this

So, most likely issue ... Twitch server you are sending to, or your ISP's connection to that Twitch server. Find reference in this forum, to Twitch test tool. and adjust accordingly (if possible, some geo-polotical boundaries may be own issue??).

 

[MuteNewt]

Unless you are doing real-time monitoring of your LAN and WAN, you don't KNOW that your internet upload bandwidth consistency is very good
but, if streaming to YT works fine, then it would seem LAN/WAN connection is probably fine. maybe.. rare possibility of coincidence when using Twitch, I'd start elsewhere before coming back to this

So, most likely issue ... Twitch server you are sending to, or your ISP's connection to that Twitch server. Find reference in this forum, to Twitch test tool. and adjust accordingly (if possible, some geo-polotical boundaries may be own issue??).

Thanks so much I appreciate the reply Lawrence. Yes Youtube has zero problems with the bandwidth when I stream there. Its consistently great and I can stream at 9000kbs 1440p. But when I connect to Twitch its random. It can be grand one day and horrid the next. I tried switch server location and it was still all over the place. I did recently however install Nord VPN to protect myself. I don't know if that did anything. But Ive had it switched off and still have the issues. I dont know if Nord is completely off as I still get prompts everywhere that I am not a robot and to choose pictures etc.

So I should look for the Twitch test tool?

Thanks again for your help its much appreciated,

Daniel

 

[AaronD]

I did recently however install Nord VPN to protect myself. I don't know if that did anything. But Ive had it switched off and still have the issues. I dont know if Nord is completely off as I still get prompts everywhere that I am not a robot and to choose pictures etc.

I've never been impressed with name-brand anti-malware. They charge a boatload, and they're ANNOYING!!! Makes them seem like more show than anything else.

Always keep your system up to date - that's the REAL anti-malware - and be responsible online, and you don't need anything else.

If you're using a VPN for anonymity/privacy:

1. The concept of privacy doesn't really work so well with live streaming, where you *want* people to find you.
2. They're probably not set up for the torrent of data that a live video stream is. You might watch YouTube through one, but YT does a much better job at tweaking their (re)compression settings than you can. (I'm amazed at how little data a given video actually uses, for what it looks like on screen)
   Plus, there's a difference between uploading and downloading. The vast majority of people send a single request (upload) and expect a complete page or a video stream in return (download), so most things are optimized to do that. Your stream is a massive upload...

 

[MuteNewt]

I've never been impressed with name-brand anti-malware. They charge a boatload, and they're ANNOYING!!! Makes them seem like more show than anything else.

Always keep your system up to date - that's the REAL anti-malware - and be responsible online, and you don't need anything else.

If you're using a VPN for anonymity/privacy:

1. The concept of privacy doesn't really work so well with live streaming, where you *want* people to find you.
2. They're probably not set up for the torrent of data that a live video stream is. You might watch YouTube through one, but YT does a much better job at tweaking their (re)compression settings than you can. (I'm amazed at how little data a given video actually uses, for what it looks like on screen)
   Plus, there's a difference between uploading and downloading. The vast majority of people send a single request (upload) and expect a complete page or a video stream in return (download), so most things are optimized to do that. Your stream is a massive upload...

I am using VPN to protect myself from people on Twitch. Ive seen countless horror stories of people being swatted, their addresses being leaked etc. It was for nothing else but that. I don't visit weird sites or do anything bad online. I was just trying to be careful on Twitch.

Do you think the VPN has anything to do with the problem I am having? Cause it only seems to happen when streaming on Twitch.

Thanks in advance.

Daniel

 

[AaronD]

I am using VPN to protect myself from people on Twitch. Ive seen countless horror stories of people being swatted, their addresses being leaked etc. It was for nothing else but that. I don't visit weird sites or do anything bad online. I was just trying to be careful on Twitch.

Do you think the VPN has anything to do with the problem I am having? Cause it only seems to happen when streaming on Twitch.

Thanks in advance.

Daniel

Sounds to me like Twitch is a problem for several reasons. Essentially a hostile community that doesn't like you protecting yourself from it.

Maybe you can stick with YouTube? Tell the Twitchy people to follow you over there until they get their act together?

That said though, there are hostile people on every platform. It's just a matter of how well the platform protects you, and how well you avoid giving yourself away. If you leave enough clues on your stream, they will find you regardless, so be careful with that.

 

[MuteNewt]

Sounds to me like Twitch is a problem for several reasons. Essentially a hostile community that doesn't like you protecting yourself from it.

Maybe you can stick with YouTube? Tell the Twitchy people to follow you over there until they get their act together?

That said though, there are hostile people on every platform. It's just a matter of how well the platform protects you, and how well you avoid giving yourself away. If you leave enough clues on your stream, they will find you regardless, so be careful with that.

Thanks so much I appreciate the concern and encouragement. I really like Twitch so id like to resolve the problems I am having with it.

Thanks again Aaron for the replies,

Kindest,

Daniel

 

[Lawrence_SoCal]

Always keep your system up to date - that's the REAL anti-malware - and be responsible online, and you don't need anything else.

I'd add one should start with having a separate local admin vs user account. And then rarely, almost never, use the Admin account. The OS native tools, though not great, can be adequate. But having a browser, email, or any other user app running with Admin priv's, and communicating over the network = recipe for a mess.

As for Nord VPN and Twitch... personally no idea, but running a test stream (does Twitch all what other platforms do where you stream to it, and that stream is NOT made Public?) with VPN off and again with VPN ON, and compare. You may need to adjust Nord settings, or some other network settings, or something on your LAN, ... long ago, adjusting max packet size was sometimes necessary... but its been a decade or more since I've had to play with such settings with enterprise VPN setups. but free/cheap VPN software.... ymmv

As you're streaming to Twitch, it's a better idea to use R1ch's TwitchTest tool to check your connection to the servers; you want a Quality score of 100, preferably. https://r1ch.net/projects/twitchtest check both with VPN On and Off

 

[AaronD]

...having a browser, email, or any other user app running with Admin priv's, and communicating over the network = recipe for a mess.

And we have people running OBS as Admin, supposedly to "fix problems"...

 

[Lawrence_SoCal]

And we have people running OBS as Admin, supposedly to "fix problems"...

Yea... there are, from those I trust to comment authoritatively on this, some occasions due to CPU/GPU scheduling at Windows kernel level, where running an App as Admin makes a difference (presumably running OBS as Admin, and a game NOT as local admin??). But most of the time, Users heard from 'somewhere/someone' Running as Admin as a solution, no real understanding of why, and especially no awareness if doing so makes a difference in their specific circumstance, so most of the time, just compromising their system security... <face palm meme> / stupid user tricks