Selection of Sources after Grouping? Help Wanted...

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Bassman

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Hello,

I have a situation on live sports jobs where I point a camera at a scoreboard and use that one image to populate a score bar. I end up copying the source 3 times and resizing the window to make the different scores and game clock etc... Works great but I am having a small issue when I put all of these inside a group/folder. After the copied sources are in a folder, I can not select them by using the mouse on the preview window. They all end up being quite small frame sizes in different places on the screen. Once they are in a folder, the ability to click and select goes away?

Does anybody have a away to work around this? I often need to adjust the window sizes but also need to turn the score bar on and off as a group.

Thanks for your help.
 
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Suslik V

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Items that were alt-cropped from all 4 sides and later were grouped - is better to Ungroup first, and only then alt-crop them again (there were bugs related to the grouped items management, and seems still wasn't fixed).
 
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Suslik V

Suslik V

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There were attempts to report similar issues
for example: https://github.com/obsproject/obs-studio/issues/4965
but...

Look, way more efforts needed
1) to explain the wrong behavior of the UI to the developers (mouse pointer is actually far away from the selected 4-sides alt-cropped grouped item when you alt-cropping it second time);
2) to make a feature request, like clickable selection for the grouped items (Control Altered or else).

#1 can be done via https://github.com/obsproject/obs-studio/issues
#2 needs either https://ideas.obsproject.com/ or... I don't know what - there are 224 open PRs for the OBS code change (features/fixes etc.), and it's a lot.
 
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AaronD

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Bassman said:
I point a camera at a scoreboard and use that one image to populate a score bar. I end up copying the source 3 times and resizing the window to make the different scores and game clock etc...
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I often need to adjust the window sizes but also need to turn the score bar on and off as a group.
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Bassman said:
I guess no workaround. I will have to wait for a fix.
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There's gotta be a workaround of *some* kind. :-)

Can you dedicate a camera to the scoreboard (and use a wrench to tighten the mount), so that the cropping doesn't change?

If you MUST re-frame that shot frequently (and never get it *exactly* like it was), then you might look at the Advanced Scene Switcher plugin. Don't group your sources, so that you can still edit them easily, and then use Adv. SS to show/hide all of them individually from a single trigger. That trigger could be a hotkey, or a WebSocket message, or an audio level, or any number of things. You might find other uses for it as well, in unrelated parts of this or other rigs. It'll do almost anything in OBS, in response to almost anything that OBS knows about.
 
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Bassman

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Thanks. That is exactly what I do - clamp the camera and hope nothing changes. The Adv. SS is cool but I have all of these in the same scene as the live switching as it is for a scoreboard. So the scene can not switch. I can look at Source Switcher and see if the editing and copying works. That would do the trick just like Adv. SS.
 
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AaronD

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Bassman said:
Thanks. That is exactly what I do - clamp the camera and hope nothing changes. The Adv. SS is cool but I have all of these in the same scene as the live switching as it is for a scoreboard. So the scene can not switch. I can look at Source Switcher and see if the editing and copying works. That would do the trick just like Adv. SS.
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Advanced Scene Switcher is getting more and more mis-named as it matures. It's not just for switching scenes. Like I said, it'll do almost anything in OBS, in response to almost anything that OBS knows about.

In your case, you'd have it show/hide the individual sources, without necessarily switching the scene.
 
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Bassman

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AaronD said:
Advanced Scene Switcher is getting more and more mis-named as it matures. It's not just for switching scenes. Like I said, it'll do almost anything in OBS, in response to almost anything that OBS knows about.

In your case, you'd have it show/hide the individual sources, without necessarily switching the scene.
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I see now. Thanks. This will help with turning the scoreboard on or off but I still need to leave them ungrouped. But they will act like a group using the Adv SS.
 
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