Question / Help reaper vocal doubling issue

[Damooch916]

First post-

After viewing the entire youtube series, "using reaper for live performance without directly addressing Mooch's problem" I've decided to bring my problems to you.
I'm just nice that way.

I'm using reaper as my audio source - through reastreams to obs - to stream live music performance (unless you don't consider piano playing music...in which case, I'm just banging on things and moving my shoulders all weirdly).

I cannot, for the life of me, get rid of the doubling "effect" on my voice. When I'm monitoring (prior to hitting record) it's perfectly fine... reaper is set up all pretty and accurately, got my smooth reverb and my chain to the reastream track looks all nice and friendly. But all my test recordings produce an echo - or doubling effect - on my voice.

My assumption is that OBS is still picking up mic audio from somewhere and I'm hearing both the reaper audio and the mic direct to obs (with some sorta fun latency issue because what are live problems without latency).

That's my assumption. But I'm a musician. I'm not qualified to specify issues unless it includes counting to four repeatedly. Then, I'm your guy.

I've got the obs audio tracks muted. Mic/aux, desktop ...muted and I'm running audio input capture with the reastream plugin set to default and receiving the info from reaper. It sounds perfect when I'm testing, only producing audio from reaper. This is why I can't find the source of the mic's second audio. I don't understand why it's even there. The instant I record and watch back - the doubling is there.

This is what happens when musicians don't have "sound guys."

What am I doing wrong (besides picking piano over guitar... seriously Dad, how did you let this happen)?

In each tutorial video, person x walks these exact steps and seemingly has no issue with doubling or hearing their mic direct through obs.

Please explain where I've gone wrong. Also, please talk slowly ... you're dealing with a dumb brute, megalomaniac (that's all musicians) who doesn't even realize that the piano is an antiquated, decorative piece of furniture - designed to make wealthy people look introspective.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Damooch916]

Issue condensed: I can't get rid of the mic going direct to obs. If I turn the mic off in the pc (even though it's running through my DAW) it doesnt play through reaper.

I'm completely lost on how to fix it.

 

[Narcogen]

Question / Help - DOUBLED AUDIO!

Okay, so I just installed OBS. First use of the program the audio was fine. Streamed audio perfectly. Opened the program back up to stream a second time and the audio settings changed. Now the audio doubles. (Dunno why.) I have an El Gato HD60 Pro. I have Desktop audio on because I use discord...

obsproject.com

I would start by simplifying the setup. Don't just mute sources-- create a scene collection with only a single audio source.

If I remember the way ReaStream works as a plugin inside of OBS... you need to define an audio input source as a windows device, then add the plugin to it as a filter. So ideally in this case, the device itself should not be getting any actual input. Best if this is a virtual device-- is this what you are doing?

What are you playing back the recordings in-- and where does that audio go? Are they still there if you play back the recorded file on a system separate from the one you're recording on?

 

[Damooch916]

Reaper is running the ASIO for my daw. Theoretically - and what I see of the tutorials - you want the input/output of reaper to be set up traditionally as though you were recording in reaper like any normal session. ReaStream is pushing my two tracks, vocals and vst keys, to the dedicated filter I have assigned in OBS on my audio input capture that is the only dedicated audio track that I'm using in obs.

Regardless of what I do, the mic I'm running to my daw stays on in one side of my headphones. If I mute the reaper channel and eliminate the reverb and mic I want running to the recordings, I can still hear the one sided audio of my mic. I can mute anything in sight, desktop, mic/aux... still no matter, the mic is on. So, it creates a doubled effect when I'm recording ( or if I stream). This doubled effect can be close or laggy depending on the temperament of my machine.

In windows, my only option is to mute the mic to the apps ... but then it's muted and won't play through anything. Apparently I can turn it on or off for all apps, but I can't specify them individually.

I have no idea how to shut this mic off to all things other than reaper and then send it to obs solely through reaper via reastreams.

I'm sure it's some dumb thing that I don't know to even know.

 

[Narcogen]

Can I assume that in Windows control panel, in the properties for your microphone, you have turned off "listen to this device"? So that Windows isn't doing local mic monitoring?

When you say "no matter what I do I hear my own mic" that should not be what's going on unless somewhere that's being looped back to you.

That could be coming from:

1) Your interface if it has that feature. I use a Yamaha mixer as an ASIO device, and it has its own hardware monitor.
2) Windows is taking your mic input and playing it back to the interface; this is set in the Sound control panel, Recording tab, your microphone entry, the Listen tab;
3) OBS has monitoring on in Settings > Audio and your mic is set to monitor.
4) Reaper (which I am not familiar with) is also performing the same function because it assumes you want it.

If ANY one of those is sending that output to a place where OBS can record it, you'll get echo.

If you don't want it on, you need to find which one is doing it and turn it off. If you DO want it on, you need to be sending it to an audio device that is not being picked up by OBS for recording.