Question / Help Question for Advanced settings x264 with dual Xeon PC

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Vesper

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Hello,

I'm french so sorry for my english ... =s. I use OBS ( perfect Software, thank you for this ) and i have a Gaming PC + Streaming PC. My Streaming PC is a Dual Xeon X5550 + 8 Gb or Ram and a Live Gamer HD. I want to have the best quality / bandwidth to be followed by guys even with a low bandwidth, so i Upload at 2000 / 2300 kbps, and this is actually my best video quality i have on the most " graphic " game : http://fr.twitch.tv/vesperalis/b/499199476 ( BF4 )

And with Anno 2070 : http://fr.twitch.tv/vesperalis/b/498677077

I like the quality, but i though it's not very good for a Dual X5550, when i see some others Streamer with just an i7 + @3000 kbps with a better quality ... :s

And i see these Benchmarks :

1391043469-capture1.png


1391043469-capturepass2.png


In pass 1, " single i7 " are very good and in pass 2, Xeon are better. So can i set my x264 to use the best of my Xeon ? Have i to change my streaming computer by just a single i7 ?

How use these settings for me ? http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings

Thank you in advance. <3
 
Live streaming can only use 1 pass encoding, so that's out. Your Xeon's are...ok, but they really aren't the strongest CPUs available, even with two of them.

But really, x264 settings aren't a magical replacement for more bandwith. You will simply never be able to make up for the quality that an extra 1000 bitrate gives. You can get sort of close with 2500 bitrate and some custom settings (mainly lowering preset) but again, x264 settings aren't a real replacement for more bitrate.

If you really are serious about customizing your settings, you need to read that page you linked carefully, and maybe Google some of the settings individually to find out more of what they are actually doing. The doom9 forums will also be a great resource for this.

What it comes down to, however, is you being willing to take the time to test things yourself and decide how they look. A lot of the quality settings in x264 can be very subjective and there's no clear cut answer as to what is best for any person's particular setup.

A lot depends on the type of content you are streaming as well. You'd almost certainly want to use different settings for something like BF4 compared to the stuff you would use for an RTS game, and you would want to use settings different from both of those for a game with very little motion like FTL.

Finding the right settings for your particular setup is just going to involve a lot of trial and error on your part.
 
Ok .. It's sad, but i understand. My log :

Code: 
02:00:17: Open Broadcaster Software v0.592b - 32bit (´・ω・｀)
02:00:17: -------------------------------
02:00:17: CPU Name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X5550  @ 2.67GHz
02:00:17: CPU Speed: 2660MHz
02:00:17: Physical Memory:  4095MB Total, 4095MB Free
02:00:17: stepping id: 5, model 26, family 6, type 0, extmodel 0, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 16, total cores 8
02:00:17: monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
02:00:17: Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
02:00:17: Aero is Enabled
02:00:17: -------------------------------
02:00:17: OBS Modules:
02:00:17: Base Address     Module
02:00:17: 00CB0000         OBS.exe
02:00:17: 70560000         OBSApi.dll
02:00:17: 72440000         DShowAudioPlugin.dll
02:00:17: 71D50000         DShowPlugin.dll
02:00:17: 71CD0000         GraphicsCapture.dll
02:00:17: 71C70000         NoiseGate.dll
02:00:17: 71C50000         PSVPlugin.dll
02:00:17: ------------------------------------------
02:00:17: Adapter 1
02:00:17:   Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series
02:00:17:   Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1062211584
02:00:17:   Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3232690176
02:00:17:   Video Adapter Output 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
02:00:17: =====Stream Start: 2014-01-30, 02:00:17===============================================
02:00:17:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
02:00:17:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
02:00:17:   Output resolution: 1280x720
02:00:17: ------------------------------------------
02:00:17: Loading up D3D10 on ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series (Adapter 1)...
02:00:17: ------------------------------------------
02:00:17: Audio Format: 48000hz
02:00:17: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{f363c096-db48-49a5-aa66-33d56ad8e3f2}
02:00:17: ------------------------------------------
02:00:17: Using desktop audio input: Haut-parleurs (Juli@ Audio)
02:00:17: ------------------------------------------
02:00:17: Using auxilary audio input: Entrée arrière (SoundMAX Integrated Digital High Definition Audio)
02:00:17: Using Mic QPC timestamps
02:00:17: ------------------------------------------
02:00:17: Audio Encoding: AAC
02:00:17:     bitrate: 160
02:00:17: Using Window Capture
02:00:17: Using Window Capture
02:00:17: Using bitmap image
Warning -- DShowPlugin: Invalid audio device: name 'Mixage stéréo (SoundMAX Integra', path '(null)'
02:00:17: DShowPlugin: No audio pin, result = 80004005
02:00:17: ------------------------------------------
02:00:17:     device: Logitech HD Pro Webcam C910,
02:00:17:     device id \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_0821&mi_02#6&3b5c0df3&0&0002#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
02:00:17:     chosen type: I420, usingFourCC: false, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, frameIntervals: 333333-2000000
02:00:17:     use buffering: false - 0, fourCC: 'I420'
02:00:17:     audio device: Mixage stéréo (SoundMAX Integra,
02:00:17:     audio device id (null),
02:00:17: 
02:00:17: Using directshow input
02:00:18: ------------------------------------------
02:00:18:     device: AVerMedia HD Capture C985 Bus 34,
02:00:18:     device id \\?\pci#ven_1af2&dev_a001&subsys_a0011af2&rev_00#4&57121b2&0&0038#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{957bd672-7934-4b55-b81a-3e22b14c679a},
02:00:18:     chosen type: YV12, usingFourCC: true, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, frameIntervals: 166666-666666
02:00:18:     use buffering: false - 0, fourCC: 'YV12'
02:00:18:     audio device: Juli@ Ch12 (Juli@ Audio),
02:00:18:     audio device id (null),
02:00:18: 
02:00:18:     device audio info - bits per sample: 16, channels: 2, samples per sec: 44100, block size: 4
02:00:18: Using directshow input
02:00:18: Scene buffering time set to 400
02:00:18: Using custom x264 settings: "threads=auto"
02:00:18: ------------------------------------------
02:00:18: Video Encoding: x264
02:00:18:     fps: 60
02:00:18:     width: 1280, height: 720
02:00:18:     preset: medium
02:00:18:     profile: main
02:00:18:     keyint: 120
02:00:18:     CBR: yes
02:00:18:     CFR: yes
02:00:18:     max bitrate: 2300
02:00:18:     buffer size: 4600
02:00:18: ------------------------------------------
02:00:18: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Haut-parleurs (Juli@ Audio)' is 352800, samples per sec is 44100
02:00:18: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Entrée arrière (SoundMAX Integrated Digital High Definition Audio)' is 352800, samples per sec is 44100
02:00:18: Syncing audio to video time (WARNING: you should not be doing this if you are just having webcam desync, that's a separate issue)
02:00:33: Total frames encoded: 876, total frames duplicated: 0 (0.00%)
02:00:33: Total frames rendered: 880, number of late frames: 2 (0.23%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
02:00:35: 
02:00:35: Profiler time results:
02:00:35: 
02:00:35: ==============================================================
02:00:35: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 3.598 ms] [children: 86.2%] [unaccounted: 13.8%]
02:00:35: | scene->Preprocess - [81%] [avg time: 2.913 ms]
02:00:35: | GPU download and conversion - [5.25%] [avg time: 0.189 ms] [children: 4.84%] [unaccounted: 0.417%]
02:00:35: | | flush - [1.11%] [avg time: 0.04 ms]
02:00:35: | | CopyResource - [0.695%] [avg time: 0.025 ms]
02:00:35: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [3.03%] [avg time: 0.109 ms]
02:00:35: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.303 ms] [children: 98.3%] [unaccounted: 1.65%]
02:00:35: | Convert444toNV12 - [98.3%] [avg time: 0.298 ms]
02:00:35: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 1.639 ms]
02:00:35: ==============================================================
02:00:35: 
02:00:35: 
02:00:35: Profiler CPU results:
02:00:35: 
02:00:35: ==============================================================
02:00:35: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 2.375 ms, total 2090.41 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:00:35: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 2.003 ms, total 1762.81 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:00:35: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0.106 ms, total 93.602 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:00:35: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0.053 ms, total 46.8 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:00:35: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:00:35: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0.054 ms, total 46.802 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:00:35: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0.274 ms, total 1404.01 ms] [avg calls per frame: 6]
02:00:35: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0.274 ms, total 1404.01 ms] [avg calls per frame: 6]
02:00:35: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 1.153 ms, total 982.806 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:00:35: ==============================================================
02:00:35: 
02:00:35: =====Stream End: 2014-01-30, 02:00:35=================================================
02:01:18: =====Stream Start: 2014-01-30, 02:01:18===============================================
02:01:18:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
02:01:18:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
02:01:18:   Output resolution: 1280x720
02:01:18: ------------------------------------------
02:01:18: Loading up D3D10 on ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series (Adapter 1)...
02:01:18: ------------------------------------------
02:01:18: Audio Format: 48000hz
02:01:18: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{f363c096-db48-49a5-aa66-33d56ad8e3f2}
02:01:18: ------------------------------------------
02:01:18: Using desktop audio input: Haut-parleurs (Juli@ Audio)
02:01:18: ------------------------------------------
02:01:18: Using auxilary audio input: Entrée arrière (SoundMAX Integrated Digital High Definition Audio)
02:01:18: Using Mic QPC timestamps
02:01:18: ------------------------------------------
02:01:18: Audio Encoding: AAC
02:01:18:     bitrate: 160
02:01:18: Using Window Capture
02:01:18: Using Window Capture
02:01:18: Using bitmap image
Warning -- DShowPlugin: Invalid audio device: name 'Mixage stéréo (SoundMAX Integra', path '(null)'
02:01:18: DShowPlugin: No audio pin, result = 80004005
02:01:18: ------------------------------------------
02:01:18:     device: Logitech HD Pro Webcam C910,
02:01:18:     device id \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_0821&mi_02#6&3b5c0df3&0&0002#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
02:01:18:     chosen type: I420, usingFourCC: false, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, frameIntervals: 333333-2000000
02:01:18:     use buffering: false - 0, fourCC: 'I420'
02:01:18:     audio device: Mixage stéréo (SoundMAX Integra,
02:01:18:     audio device id (null),
02:01:18: 
02:01:18: Using directshow input
02:01:19: ------------------------------------------
02:01:19:     device: AVerMedia HD Capture C985 Bus 34,
02:01:19:     device id \\?\pci#ven_1af2&dev_a001&subsys_a0011af2&rev_00#4&57121b2&0&0038#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{957bd672-7934-4b55-b81a-3e22b14c679a},
02:01:19:     chosen type: YV12, usingFourCC: true, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, frameIntervals: 166666-666666
02:01:19:     use buffering: false - 0, fourCC: 'YV12'
02:01:19:     audio device: Juli@ Ch12 (Juli@ Audio),
02:01:19:     audio device id (null),
02:01:19: 
02:01:19:     device audio info - bits per sample: 16, channels: 2, samples per sec: 44100, block size: 4
02:01:19: Using directshow input
02:01:19: Scene buffering time set to 400
02:01:19: Using custom x264 settings: "threads=auto"
02:01:19: ------------------------------------------
02:01:19: Video Encoding: x264
02:01:19:     fps: 60
02:01:19:     width: 1280, height: 720
02:01:19:     preset: medium
02:01:19:     profile: main
02:01:19:     keyint: 120
02:01:19:     CBR: yes
02:01:19:     CFR: yes
02:01:19:     max bitrate: 2300
02:01:19:     buffer size: 4600
02:01:19: ------------------------------------------
02:01:19: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Haut-parleurs (Juli@ Audio)' is 352800, samples per sec is 44100
02:01:19: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Entrée arrière (SoundMAX Integrated Digital High Definition Audio)' is 352800, samples per sec is 44100
02:01:19: Syncing audio to video time (WARNING: you should not be doing this if you are just having webcam desync, that's a separate issue)
02:01:34: Total frames encoded: 894, total frames duplicated: 0 (0.00%)
02:01:34: Total frames rendered: 901, number of late frames: 2 (0.22%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
02:01:37: 
02:01:37: Profiler time results:
02:01:37: 
02:01:37: ==============================================================
02:01:37: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 3.209 ms] [children: 83.4%] [unaccounted: 16.6%]
02:01:37: | scene->Preprocess - [78.3%] [avg time: 2.514 ms]
02:01:37: | GPU download and conversion - [5.02%] [avg time: 0.161 ms] [children: 4.3%] [unaccounted: 0.717%]
02:01:37: | | flush - [0.966%] [avg time: 0.031 ms]
02:01:37: | | CopyResource - [0.779%] [avg time: 0.025 ms]
02:01:37: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [2.56%] [avg time: 0.082 ms]
02:01:37: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.297 ms] [children: 98%] [unaccounted: 2.02%]
02:01:37: | Convert444toNV12 - [98%] [avg time: 0.291 ms]
02:01:37: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 1.475 ms]
02:01:37: ==============================================================
02:01:37: 
02:01:37: 
02:01:37: Profiler CPU results:
02:01:37: 
02:01:37: ==============================================================
02:01:37: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 2.129 ms, total 1918.81 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:01:37: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 1.731 ms, total 1560.01 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:01:37: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0.103 ms, total 93.601 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:01:37: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0.034 ms, total 31.2 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:01:37: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:01:37: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0.071 ms, total 62.401 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:01:37: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0.31 ms, total 1622.41 ms] [avg calls per frame: 6]
02:01:37: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0.31 ms, total 1622.41 ms] [avg calls per frame: 6]
02:01:37: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 1.022 ms, total 889.205 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:01:37: ==============================================================
02:01:37: 
02:01:37: =====Stream End: 2014-01-30, 02:01:37=================================================
02:02:36: =====Stream Start: 2014-01-30, 02:02:36===============================================
02:02:36:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
02:02:36:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
02:02:36:   Output resolution: 1280x720
02:02:36: ------------------------------------------
02:02:36: Loading up D3D10 on ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series (Adapter 1)...
02:02:36: ------------------------------------------
02:02:36: Audio Format: 48000hz
02:02:36: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{f363c096-db48-49a5-aa66-33d56ad8e3f2}
02:02:36: ------------------------------------------
02:02:36: Using desktop audio input: Haut-parleurs (Juli@ Audio)
02:02:36: ------------------------------------------
02:02:36: Using auxilary audio input: Entrée arrière (SoundMAX Integrated Digital High Definition Audio)
02:02:36: Using Mic QPC timestamps
02:02:36: ------------------------------------------
02:02:36: Audio Encoding: AAC
02:02:36:     bitrate: 160
02:02:36: Using Window Capture
02:02:36: Using Window Capture
02:02:36: Using bitmap image
Warning -- DShowPlugin: Invalid audio device: name 'Mixage stéréo (SoundMAX Integra', path '(null)'
02:02:36: DShowPlugin: No audio pin, result = 80004005
02:02:36: ------------------------------------------
02:02:36:     device: Logitech HD Pro Webcam C910,
02:02:36:     device id \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_0821&mi_02#6&3b5c0df3&0&0002#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
02:02:36:     chosen type: I420, usingFourCC: false, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, frameIntervals: 333333-2000000
02:02:36:     use buffering: false - 0, fourCC: 'I420'
02:02:36:     audio device: Mixage stéréo (SoundMAX Integra,
02:02:36:     audio device id (null),
02:02:36: 
02:02:36: Using directshow input
02:02:37: ------------------------------------------
02:02:37:     device: AVerMedia HD Capture C985 Bus 34,
02:02:37:     device id \\?\pci#ven_1af2&dev_a001&subsys_a0011af2&rev_00#4&57121b2&0&0038#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{957bd672-7934-4b55-b81a-3e22b14c679a},
02:02:37:     chosen type: YV12, usingFourCC: true, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, frameIntervals: 166666-666666
02:02:37:     use buffering: false - 0, fourCC: 'YV12'
02:02:37:     audio device: Juli@ Ch12 (Juli@ Audio),
02:02:37:     audio device id (null),
02:02:37: 
02:02:37:     device audio info - bits per sample: 16, channels: 2, samples per sec: 44100, block size: 4
02:02:37: Using directshow input
02:02:37: Scene buffering time set to 400
02:02:37: Using custom x264 settings: "threads=auto"
02:02:37: ------------------------------------------
02:02:37: Video Encoding: x264
02:02:37:     fps: 60
02:02:37:     width: 1280, height: 720
02:02:37:     preset: medium
02:02:37:     profile: main
02:02:37:     keyint: 120
02:02:37:     CBR: yes
02:02:37:     CFR: no
02:02:37:     max bitrate: 2300
02:02:37:     buffer size: 4600
02:02:37: ------------------------------------------
02:02:37: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Haut-parleurs (Juli@ Audio)' is 352800, samples per sec is 44100
02:02:37: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Entrée arrière (SoundMAX Integrated Digital High Definition Audio)' is 352800, samples per sec is 44100
02:02:37: Syncing audio to video time (WARNING: you should not be doing this if you are just having webcam desync, that's a separate issue)
02:02:45: Total frames encoded: 475, total frames duplicated: 0 (0.00%)
02:02:45: Total frames rendered: 482, number of late frames: 1 (0.21%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
02:02:46: 
02:02:46: Profiler time results:
02:02:46: 
02:02:46: ==============================================================
02:02:46: video thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 4.162 ms] [children: 88.5%] [unaccounted: 11.5%]
02:02:46: | scene->Preprocess - [84.3%] [avg time: 3.51 ms]
02:02:46: | GPU download and conversion - [4.2%] [avg time: 0.175 ms] [children: 3.56%] [unaccounted: 0.649%]
02:02:46: | | flush - [0.889%] [avg time: 0.037 ms]
02:02:46: | | CopyResource - [0.649%] [avg time: 0.027 ms]
02:02:46: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [2.02%] [avg time: 0.084 ms]
02:02:46: Convert444Threads - [100%] [avg time: 0.314 ms] [children: 97.8%] [unaccounted: 2.23%]
02:02:46: | Convert444toNV12 - [97.8%] [avg time: 0.307 ms]
02:02:46: encoder thread frame - [100%] [avg time: 1.493 ms]
02:02:46: ==============================================================
02:02:46: 
02:02:46: 
02:02:46: Profiler CPU results:
02:02:46: 
02:02:46: ==============================================================
02:02:46: video thread frame - [cpu time: avg 2.977 ms, total 1435.21 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:02:46: | scene->Preprocess - [cpu time: avg 2.362 ms, total 1138.81 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:02:46: | GPU download and conversion - [cpu time: avg 0.194 ms, total 93.6 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:02:46: | | flush - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:02:46: | | CopyResource - [cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:02:46: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [cpu time: avg 0.172 ms, total 78 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:02:46: Convert444Threads - [cpu time: avg 0.333 ms, total 904.803 ms] [avg calls per frame: 6]
02:02:46: | Convert444toNV12 - [cpu time: avg 0.327 ms, total 889.203 ms] [avg calls per frame: 6]
02:02:46: encoder thread frame - [cpu time: avg 1.003 ms, total 452.402 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
02:02:46: ==============================================================
02:02:46: 
02:02:46: =====Stream End: 2014-01-30, 02:02:46=================================================
 
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